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March 30, 2018, 12:32:25 PM
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OP explained a situation in sport event, and it`s not ethical what that sportsman did. He sold his team, fans for some money.Ethic is everything we do, this sportsman decided to put money over dignity and that is not ethical. You can apply ethic in every action we make, we can gamble in fair way or to cheat, we can be good or bad people. If you lose you can handle loss with proper manners or you can start to curse and make  threats, its not ethical. Basically ethical or unethical depends from person to person, some are some not, I think I`m fair in everything I do, when I win and when I lose in gambling and other aspects of life.

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March 30, 2018, 01:36:59 PM
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Firstly everyone aim is to make money not win or lose so they will do anything to make money but most of the people won't do shady activities of it comes to games between nations but still some people so.

By the way what he did? is he fixed the match to win or lose?









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April 01, 2018, 04:40:09 AM
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Ethics matter everywhere, you aren't ethical if you just pick and choose the circumstances where you decide to be ethical or not.
You are either practice good morals or you do not, there's no in-between, at least not according to me.

The same with gambling, for me it would not be okay to cheat, whether you're playing with friends or at a big casino.

Now I do see a gray area if you're just using skill to get an extra edge in the game.
Counting cards in blackjack is an example.
Apparently, using your skills to give yourself an advantage is not cheating, it is just part of the game. In as much as a lot of us even wish we could cheat in gambling, this is something that is not possible since there are monitoring spirits (that is what I call them anyway) everywhere looking for a scapegoat and in that case, I would rather just respect myself.

In the real life sense, it is appalling to cheat when you know in that case, you are hurting the person, I always just prefer life to take its cause.
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April 01, 2018, 12:17:43 PM
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Firstly everyone aim is to make money not win or lose so they will do anything to make money but most of the people won't do shady activities of it comes to games between nations but still some people so.

By the way what he did? is he fixed the match to win or lose?

Everyone mostly plays to make money and this is the reason they get addicted or play for so long that they keep losing money and thus casinos keep making money and due to which today we can see that they still exists because they are running in profits.

People who are in loss may do some wrong things to make up their losses.


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April 01, 2018, 04:11:03 PM
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OP explained a situation in sport event, and it`s not ethical what that sportsman did. He sold his team, fans for some money.Ethic is everything we do, this sportsman decided to put money over dignity and that is not ethical. You can apply ethic in every action we make, we can gamble in fair way or to cheat, we can be good or bad people. If you lose you can handle loss with proper manners or you can start to curse and make  threats, its not ethical. Basically ethical or unethical depends from person to person, some are some not, I think I`m fair in everything I do, when I win and when I lose in gambling and other aspects of life.
With how things happen this one is a good example of unethical way just to earned a quick money inside gambling, he did things like this
just to received his rewards, they been paid to play and do their obligations for their respected teams but he did the other way around to
earn for its personal benefit.
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April 01, 2018, 04:50:14 PM
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Never in my life I cheated in gambling ,I want to play fair and square. I hate cheaters and I don't like to play with that kind of people, in my place we already knew who have that kind of atittude so we avoid our selves to play with that person and they will always be rejected.

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April 01, 2018, 08:47:21 PM
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It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
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April 01, 2018, 09:08:10 PM
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Never in my life I cheated in gambling ,I want to play fair and square. I hate cheaters and I don't like to play with that kind of people, in my place we already knew who have that kind of atittude so we avoid our selves to play with that person and they will always be rejected.
Same here, I don't like cheaters at all. Playing fair games is my favorite thing. About cheaters, I think people who manipulate Live game results. I think sometimes in any place in the world, there are some players which they play football or some sport activities, they can manipulate the games and choose the right bet, so then, they can earn a huge amount of that, It's something shameful indeed.
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April 01, 2018, 10:25:58 PM
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I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
There is not really a point to cheat when you gamble, because no matter what you do you will always get a bad outcome, if you win you will get more money that is true but you will always know that you won because you cheated, and if at some point someone discovers that you have been cheating you will get in a lot of trouble you could even end up in jail.
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April 02, 2018, 08:02:02 AM
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I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.

No I wasn't actually, thanks for alerting though. Just read up on it. I'm not much of a sportsperson myself, though I played football/street football every day for many, many years (til I got old heh heh) and nothing got to me more than cheaters... divers, those unsportsmanlike fouls. I never learnt how to even roll on the ground if I fell, instinctively my mind was just on the ball and on the game. Match fixing is on another level, since that's greed and not a "winning at all cost" strategy.

I have hussled plenty though when gambling cards! My favourite is to play at the same table with an "assistant" who helps me look at my cards and "advises" and "accidentally giving me away". Always among friends, and always for the banter, but sometimes getting the desired result. I'm not sure that qualifies as cheating, especially when playing poker and they all know I do that.

There's always a code with gamblers. Murky as mud, blurry as hell. But there's definitely a code.
Being a footballer for years will never give you the same fun in any other activity of the world because football is life, not just a game. In front of this, gambling is a way too low but as you have got old, it is not that much easy to continue street football. Forme, gambling is just a useless game, it won’t give anything valuable. I also think that mostly gambler are seeking money because there is actually no fun is sitting at a chair and waiting for random outcome.
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April 02, 2018, 08:59:56 AM
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I'm so proud to be part of this community who has decided to never cheat in gambling while I can't quote each and every post I liked, I'm really happy that each and everyone was ready to loose than cheat. They may call us by whatever names they want, tell us we're messing our lives, but they can't call us cheaters. Though occasionally you see people come here and complain they were cheated or sell fake scripts these are the few rotten apples that shall be chucked out of the system as I feel we'll have our ethics guard up.
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April 02, 2018, 09:59:21 AM
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Never in my life I cheated in gambling ,I want to play fair and square. I hate cheaters and I don't like to play with that kind of people, in my place we already knew who have that kind of atittude so we avoid our selves to play with that person and they will always be rejected.

Any form of cheating is still cheating regardless of its nature. Once you performed an act that has an advantage over the other illegally then it is considered as cheating. In adherence to gambling, even though the nature of the act is based on odds, cheating would result to an individual's persona non-grata on the said casino or may be even held criminally liable.

I'm so proud to be part of this community who has decided to never cheat in gambling while I can't quote each and every post I liked, I'm really happy that each and everyone was ready to loose than cheat. They may call us by whatever names they want, tell us we're messing our lives, but they can't call us cheaters. Though occasionally you see people come here and complain they were cheated or sell fake scripts these are the few rotten apples that shall be chucked out of the system as I feel we'll have our ethics guard up.

Generally, people around the forum have respect and morals over their works and acts. People who mainly cheat are usually the ones who are suffering from financial needs or problems. Most individuals gamble for the purpose of entertainment; cheating would totally destroy the purpose of having fun. Nevertheless, ethics must be properly followed like what is mandated on the laws and rules.

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April 02, 2018, 06:24:47 PM
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I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
Well i never actually tried to cheat in gambling because i never thought it is possible to cheat, i mean i know for a fact that in real life casinos you can somehow cheat, like counting in card games, but in online gambling is that even possible, anyway, cheating is always bad whether you are a gambler or not ,some people are ok with it, others are not, but wining with cheating does not have the same feeling when you win with your hard work.
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April 02, 2018, 08:30:31 PM
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Never in my life I cheated in gambling ,I want to play fair and square. I hate cheaters and I don't like to play with that kind of people, in my place we already knew who have that kind of atittude so we avoid our selves to play with that person and they will always be rejected.

Any form of cheating is still cheating regardless of its nature. Once you performed an act that has an advantage over the other illegally then it is considered as cheating. In adherence to gambling, even though the nature of the act is based on odds, cheating would result to an individual's persona non-grata on the said casino or may be even held criminally liable.

I'm so proud to be part of this community who has decided to never cheat in gambling while I can't quote each and every post I liked, I'm really happy that each and everyone was ready to loose than cheat. They may call us by whatever names they want, tell us we're messing our lives, but they can't call us cheaters. Though occasionally you see people come here and complain they were cheated or sell fake scripts these are the few rotten apples that shall be chucked out of the system as I feel we'll have our ethics guard up.

Generally, people around the forum have respect and morals over their works and acts. People who mainly cheat are usually the ones who are suffering from financial needs or problems. Most individuals gamble for the purpose of entertainment; cheating would totally destroy the purpose of having fun. Nevertheless, ethics must be properly followed like what is mandated on the laws and rules.
Having ethics on gambling is good but consider this thing to be applied on all sorts of our daily living and would really give a peace of mind since we are talking about gambling then I would also choose on losing than on tending to cheat and same as you said once you act or do have motive to cheat then its already considered illegal once being caught then suffer the consequences but if you are a greedy man or do really seek for money then you wont really matter about ethics and do things on all sorts as long you can make money which isn't really good.

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April 03, 2018, 06:58:05 AM
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even in gambling, there are rules and we still need to be ethical
I don’t believe in any kind of ethics when you are already doing an unethical thing. How can you save yourself from sin when you are living in sins? If someone is involved in gambling, firstly he is doing an unethical act and if we insist him to be ethical while playing, does it make any sense? I am sure not. Gambling isn’t good for your health and wealth so try to become unhabituated of this.
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April 03, 2018, 07:33:27 AM
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I don't think that it would really be a good thing to do something unethical because that's who you are and that would be what you do especially if others see you doing that kind of things. It's definitely needed to be ethical, but probably some people go over that line for something that is not worth too much to gamble. It's only yourself that would be responsible for it and to blame.

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April 03, 2018, 09:05:38 PM
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even in gambling, there are rules and we still need to be ethical
I don’t believe in any kind of ethics when you are already doing an unethical thing. How can you save yourself from sin when you are living in sins? If someone is involved in gambling, firstly he is doing an unethical act and if we insist him to be ethical while playing, does it make any sense? I am sure not. Gambling isn’t good for your health and wealth so try to become unhabituated of this.
We are all sinners and doing unethical things is sometimes cant really be avoided but it shouldn't really be tolerated by someone.We do know it isn't right to make advantage to others but as you said if someone is already having the habit on being unethical then advising him would be pointless.

I don't think that it would really be a good thing to do something unethical because that's who you are and that would be what you do especially if others see you doing that kind of things. It's definitely needed to be ethical, but probably some people go over that line for something that is not worth too much to gamble. It's only yourself that would be responsible for it and to blame.
Once people do have those kind of impressions towards you then it would really remain forever.In my side I don't like for people to see me that way.

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April 04, 2018, 05:16:28 AM
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It's very difficult to cheat in online gambling, but in real life, in casinos, it's possible. I think if the stakes were high enough I might get tempted to try cheating. Before you condemn me think about it for a second.
You are sitting next to someone at the table and see that he's not covering his cards well enough so that you're able to peek. Would you tell him, or try to ignore what you see? Or maybe you'd play along and call it luck? If it was a game with friends I'd tell him, but if those were strangers playing for money, i'd take advantage.
To cheat is a helpless, I try to warn him/her of someone cheating, I certainly do not agree with him. If I ignore the trick, it is a trick against me.

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April 04, 2018, 08:01:58 AM
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I really don't think ethics counts in winning, or gambling, this is a competitive environment, so any unfair advantage you can get to win should be taken.

So long as you are playing by the rules, it shouldn't matter how you win, whether by using sneaky tactics, loopholes or tricks, this is gambling. You need every advantage you can get since you're playing against stacked odds.

That being said, when playing with friends, you should be ethical, as it's not right to screw people over.

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April 04, 2018, 02:40:29 PM
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I'm sure all of you would be aware of Captain Smith and his shameful teammates, who have brought shame to their country and all the respect for Aussies cricket seems to go down the drain.

This has brought me to a important question for all, is winning so important that you let your ethics down and chaeat?

This was cricket have you ever tried to cheat in gambling if yes why and were you able to stop doing it or no.

I have never cheated, won't deny I had the urge to do it but I resisted it nevertheless.

There is no code for us gamblers like the weak ICC has but I feel even we as gamblers are ethical and won't do such shady stuff to win.
Well i never actually tried to cheat in gambling because i never thought it is possible to cheat, i mean i know for a fact that in real life casinos you can somehow cheat, like counting in card games, but in online gambling is that even possible, anyway, cheating is always bad whether you are a gambler or not ,some people are ok with it, others are not, but wining with cheating does not have the same feeling when you win with your hard work.
I think you're confusing something card counting in blackjack is not cheating, it is just a strategy nothing else, the reason why casinos banned that practice is because it gives the player advantage over the casino, so you can get an idea of how powerful that strategy really is, however things like marking the cards or looking at the cards of other players that is cheating.
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