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October 28, 2013, 08:56:40 AM
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See how we make sure your coins are safe! https://ice-dice.com/en/security

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October 28, 2013, 09:11:08 AM
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You typo'ed "vulnerability" in the very last paragraph of that page Smiley
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October 28, 2013, 09:23:02 AM
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"as well as physical paper wallets in bank vaults"
"Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers"
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October 28, 2013, 04:52:16 PM
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there is nothing safe about this site the owner doesn't pay out, cannot be trusted ...he will steal your bitcoins

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October 28, 2013, 05:39:53 PM
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there is nothing safe about this site the owner doesn't pay out, cannot be trusted ...he will steal your bitcoins

Hey troll, why don't you show some proof before you blackmail and spread false claims? I'm disgusted by people like you on the internet, karma is going to get you one day.

You typo'ed "vulnerability" in the very last paragraph of that page Smiley

"as well as physical paper wallets in bank vaults"
"Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers"

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October 28, 2013, 08:01:14 PM
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there is nothing safe about this site the owner doesn't pay out, cannot be trusted ...he will steal your bitcoins

Hey troll, why don't you show some proof before you blackmail and spread false claims? I'm disgusted by people like you on the internet, karma is going to get you one day.

You typo'ed "vulnerability" in the very last paragraph of that page Smiley

"as well as physical paper wallets in bank vaults"
"Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers"

Thanks Fixed!



>>mixing illegal money will get you caught up, maybe someday you will regret encouraging people to use your site for this activity<<





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October 29, 2013, 12:11:57 AM
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there is nothing safe about this site the owner doesn't pay out, cannot be trusted ...he will steal your bitcoins

Hey troll, why don't you show some proof before you blackmail and spread false claims? I'm disgusted by people like you on the internet, karma is going to get you one day.

You typo'ed "vulnerability" in the very last paragraph of that page Smiley

"as well as physical paper wallets in bank vaults"
"Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers"

Thanks Fixed!



>>mixing illegal money will get you caught up, maybe someday you will regret encouraging people to use your site for this activity<<






Hey ASICSRUS, why don't you stop making new accounts to troll and start doing something productive and contribute to the community? I'm ashamed of people like you on the internet. Bitcoin deserves better.

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October 29, 2013, 12:54:45 AM
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Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.
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October 29, 2013, 01:00:08 AM
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Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

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October 29, 2013, 01:07:31 AM
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Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292
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October 29, 2013, 01:21:16 AM
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Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.


funny +not only that >> just like yesterday he was asking ME about United Kingdom legal requirements! WTF? lololll

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October 29, 2013, 01:45:09 AM
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Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

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October 29, 2013, 01:49:10 AM
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Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

no, it's just a piece of paper with the private key of the wallet stored in multiple banks.

Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

Whats there to explain? Coinbase knows whats up and I'm learning from them.

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October 29, 2013, 01:57:10 AM
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Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

no, it's just a piece of paper with the private key of the wallet stored in multiple banks.

Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

Whats there to explain? Coinbase knows whats up and I'm learning from them.


Explain why you think its ok stealing from people with your shoddy, poorly coded site?..Alpha testing with real money and holding on to my BTCitcoins? hello? i'm not going anywhere till you pay me out what you owe me! What jurisdiction are you in? thanks

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October 29, 2013, 02:09:06 AM
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Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.
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October 29, 2013, 02:12:10 AM
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Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.


just wait till they begin throwing wrenches! This guy has no clue!!! lol

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October 29, 2013, 02:14:14 AM
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Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

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October 29, 2013, 02:22:25 AM
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Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase?

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October 29, 2013, 02:28:05 AM
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Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

What ? There must be some misunderstanding somewhere. Here is the relevant part from the previous reply that hints I'm not talking about hosting your server at a specific place: "The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site."

These couple of places I'm talking about are companies with actual security policies, I'm certainly not talking about hosting companies offering VPS, VDS, dedicated, etc.. Security doesn't get fixed by changing your hosting company.
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October 29, 2013, 02:35:12 AM
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Unfortunately, marketing doesn't make a site safe.

It is even worse that now I'm not sure if you don't know how your 2FA method works. Here is your claim about 2FA: "... they will have to steal your physical mobile phone in order to login or withdraw from your account". That is simply false, specially false "Since your computer may be infected with viruses, trojans, or key loggers ...". All they need to do is steal the 2FA key you provide in your site, which users may store in very unsafe forms. With that key they can generate as many authentication tokens as they wish, there is no need to steal a phone.

To defeat any claims you make (except possibly about the cold storage), all it takes is a single not-so-nice employer at your hosting provider fusa.be.

Well safety is relative. The point is we are trying to be as safe as we can. There is nothing we can do if our hosting company screws us over, but thats what cold storage is for. Then again, you can say that about any site who is hosting their server some where on the internet.

Do you really take people's balance and send it to bank vaults and secure geological places? This sounds a lot like Coinbase's security page!

Also compare the texts on https://coinbase.com/whitehat and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=318347.msg3413292#msg3413292

Yes. Could you please explain the similarities?

My issue with that is that you copied their text and promoted it using your service, without ever mentioning that you didn't write that yourself but copied from coinbase (I didn't even claim you copied from them, but now you basically said that is the case). I already wrote something similar to this in your other post.

Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

Soooo what you have typed is a lie and is copied from coinbase?

no it's not a lie, just because apple can make iphone that can make calls doesn't mean google can't make android to make calls. We are doing everything listed there. We just decided to make it public like coinbase did.


Also, I can't say what I said about every other site hosted somewhere in the internet because I personally know a couple of places that goes to much greater extent to actually protect their servers. The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site. It is annoying to see a marketing site claiming to be safe, and giving a false sense of security to their users.

What are those servers that you recommend? I wouldn't mind checking them out.

What ? There must be some misunderstanding somewhere. Here is the relevant part from the previous reply that hints I'm not talking about hosting your server at a specific place: "The lack of security starts with one server holding all your application, which happens to be the same one directly exposed to everyone accessing your site."

These couple of places I'm talking about are companies with actual security policies, I'm certainly not talking about hosting companies offering VPS, VDS, dedicated, etc.. Security doesn't get fixed by changing your hosting company.

oh ok yeah there was a mis understanding.

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