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May 07, 2018, 01:40:10 PM
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Immortality is one of the central questions for humanity. It has been sought for thousands of years, and this is how religion appears: an idea related to the eternal life. So, in one hand, I don't understand why believers ask for immortality, for they already have it since they are all going to the "heaven".

Nevertheless, is an interesting question. Think about how many things humankind would achieve if some are immortals. For instance, Hawkins. Let's imagine how far he should go in science if he lived forever.
Regarding natural issues, immortality probably would end the humankind. We need to die in order to evolve. This is the mean reason of mortality (according to Asimov, for instance), the ability to give the next generation a code modified by the circumstance If we don't die, then the specimen can' t evolve and it, probably, will mean its end. I think this is applicable to the world of the ideas. I mean, if the elders don't die, maybe the ideas neither evolve as they are doing, but this is really subjective.

Anyway, if humankind achieve immortality, this will be used by a few, the ones with enough money for paying for it.

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May 07, 2018, 01:51:32 PM
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First of...a person would want to be immortal.

The question is, is that a wise desicion? Seeing all your friends and relatives dies off while you live on forever?

Thats is if you want to and they do not. I can only imagine what living forever does to the brain too.

I think there will be a time the human mind will be able to be transferred into a computer like brain that will allow a person to
continue existance forever.

On my end, I think a person should allow nature to take its course and when dead to move on into the spirit world as God intended.

Then again to each his own.

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May 07, 2018, 04:43:52 PM
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First of...a person would want to be immortal.

The question is, is that a wise desicion? Seeing all your friends and relatives dies off while you live on forever?

Thats is if you want to and they do not. I can only imagine what living forever does to the brain too.

I think there will be a time the human mind will be able to be transferred into a computer like brain that will allow a person to
continue existance forever.

On my end, I think a person should allow nature to take its course and when dead to move on into the spirit world as God intended.

Then again to each his own.

Why do people keep saying that, if science gets to a point where it can make someone immortal, it would be able to make everyone immortal. You are thinking about it as if only you could be immortal and not anyone else.

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May 07, 2018, 06:18:08 PM
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Physical immortality is a state of life that allows a person to avoid death and maintain conscious thought. It can mean the unending existence of a person from a physical source other than organic life, such as a computer. Active pursuit of physical immortality can either be based on scientific trends, such as cryonics, digital immortality, breakthroughs in rejuvenation or predictions of an impending technological singularity, or because of a spiritual belief.
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May 08, 2018, 01:06:47 AM
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I doubt that such technology would be released in masses. It would be used by chosen to rule the humanity. Undecided
I think the transfer of the consciousness of a person would be the more practical method of immortality since as soon as birth the human body has time limit on it. Some of the elites of the world have some secret and I believe that immortality may be one because the rich always want to live forever. Correction everyone wants to live forever.
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May 08, 2018, 06:57:31 AM
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Immorality would be boring and your life would be useless.
There's a great saying in a popular Hollywood movie
"you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

I agree with you, that immoral and useless life that has immortality is shameful, I believe that man has a beginning and end. it is the law of causality
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May 08, 2018, 08:40:37 AM
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i'd rather agree with the statement that death is a must-have in a way as the eternal life will lead to the fullness of the earth and systemic disorder.
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May 08, 2018, 11:17:56 AM
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black mirror had a pretty interesting episode about this. in the episode your mind was uploaded to a server and you continued living in a machine simulation. such solution could become viable and would not destroy the ecosystem.
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May 09, 2018, 04:48:33 AM
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Well only God is immortal
It is written man will die once and after death judgement.
No matter how hard the scientists try no one can live forever.
Eventually if they invented something to elongate lifes it'll be super expensive. So to cap it all human's immortality is not a issue to discuss at all
That's right. All people will die and they are bound to die. God will create a new heaven and earth. That is also true that human are intelligent and can do even the impossible thing. I dont think it will  manifest and will come to reality. Gods plan will be destroyed. Human has still limitations.
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Immortality is one of mankind’s major apprehensions, and even though it has been mainly restricted to religious customs. People have different opinions about immortality. Everybody defines immortality differently. For some people it is the survival of the astral body resembling the physical body, for others the immortality of the immaterial soul and lastly the resurrection of the body. Basic definition of immortality is the unknown continuation of a person’s existence, even after death. Immortality primarily referred to soul as it like it does not die when the human body dies, but since they both well connected together, when the body dies, soul dies too; therefore, immortality does not exist.
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May 09, 2018, 10:27:38 PM
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Immortality is already technically possible by plugin ones head onto new healthy body every 100 years or so.

You can google "Sergio Canavero" or "Valery Spiridonov" for more technical details.
Whether it will become popular or widespread in the future remains an open question due to various moral and cultural implications.

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Immortality is already technically possible by plugin ones head onto new healthy body every 100 years or so.

You can google "Sergio Canavero" or "Valery Spiridonov" for more technical details.
Whether it will become popular or widespread in the future remains an open question due to various moral and cultural implications.



No it's not. Your head is what matters, not the body. Your brain will age no matter how many body switches you make and eventually your brain will die. That's not even close to immortality. The biggest advantage to that is that any disease in your body that doesn't affect your head can be ''treated'' by switching your body. Still very early on that technology tho.

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May 09, 2018, 10:33:30 PM
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Immortality is eternal life, being exempt from death, unending existence.

Certain scientists, futurists, and philosophers have theorized about the immortality of the human body, with some suggesting that human immortality may be achievable in the first few decades of the 21st century.

On the other hand, some believe that death is a divine blessing  and eternal life will lead to the fullness of the earth and systemic disorder.


Immortality is one of the great projects of our age - some of our best minds are working on it. If it's a problem that can be solved via engineering (and there is no reason to believe that it's not), we will solve it.

As to whether death is a blessing or a curse, we won't know until we achieve immortality, won't we?
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May 10, 2018, 12:10:13 AM
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Immortality is already technically possible by plugin ones head onto new healthy body every 100 years or so.

You can google "Sergio Canavero" or "Valery Spiridonov" for more technical details.
Whether it will become popular or widespread in the future remains an open question due to various moral and cultural implications.



No it's not. Your head is what matters, not the body. Your brain will age no matter how many body switches you make and eventually your brain will die. That's not even close to immortality. The biggest advantage to that is that any disease in your body that doesn't affect your head can be ''treated'' by switching your body. Still very early on that technology tho.

Sure. But it is pretty close to it.
Also considering it adds double digit number of centuries to your lifetime you are more than likely to witness future scientific breakthrough`s and make it "a real thing" later on.
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May 10, 2018, 01:08:14 AM
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I think that if a serious extension of life becomes a reality, it will be very expensive. Otherwise, it is necessary to limit the birth rate, or even forbid people to have children.

God's sake someone keep Infinity Gauntlet from you

Just joking =p

I really agree with you, there no why so many ppl in the world. There is simply no how to with that many ppl to feed, shelter, take care and etc

There is one strange problem... China alreay forbiden ppl from having more than one kid and their population is one of the biggest of the world, dunno what to think about this
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May 10, 2018, 02:05:34 AM
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I will not set aside the possibility of immortality to happen in the future because no one can really tell. However, if we are going to consider the circumstances and the knowledge that the most intelligent people has, I do not think that it is feasible at this time. Greatest scientists of our planet may have achieved so many marvelous inventions and creations but we need also to realize that we have so much to learn still. Although we have come this far when it come to technological and scientific breakthroughs, we must need to understand also that we have a long way to go when it come to creating those especially about immortality. Again, I am not convinced yet that we can attain immortality as we aren't in the stage where we have discovered that it is possible.

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May 10, 2018, 02:53:15 AM
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Immortality is eternal life, being exempt from death, unending existence.

Certain scientists, futurists, and philosophers have theorized about the immortality of the human body, with some suggesting that human immortality may be achievable in the first few decades of the 21st century.

On the other hand, some believe that death is a divine blessing  and eternal life will lead to the fullness of the earth and systemic disorder.

Achievable through technology? I doubt that this will happen, if immortality is boundless by time, then there is no technology will be useful to surpass the mortality. Its illogical.
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May 10, 2018, 04:00:40 AM
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Human "Absolute" Immortality may seem possible due to the rapid developments of technology today. No one knows when would man discovers a way to extend a person's life repeatedly, but thinking about it makes me doubt if man would dare to live longer in this world because of some reasons. The first is the emotional reason. Prolonging life would also mean prolonging disappointments, heartaches and all of the things that makes people want to quit life. Second is the philosophical reason, it will make this life worthless. Imagine, if you are to have forever to live, how will you value every single day that passes by? Third is the Financial reason, granting that Science will be able to grant people eternal life, it will surely come at a cost and with that comes the question, who will be able to afford to live forever? Last is the economical reason. If no one will die, how will you make the world's resources enough for the people of the planet? where will you build houses? where will you get the food to feed them? It will be a big problem because it will exponentially increase the population of the world.
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May 10, 2018, 07:59:29 AM
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No one knows if there is life again after death, for example as we sleep and dream, we do not realize what happened and we do not remember what we feel. Life is very difficult to guess, it seems if we talk about death is frightening. According to the teachings of religion, after death, there is an eternal life where we live 2 choices of heaven and hell, and that depends on how your life becomes a good or evil person.

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May 10, 2018, 09:52:57 PM
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Immortality is eternal life, being exempt from death, unending existence.

Certain scientists, futurists, and philosophers have theorized about the immortality of the human body, with some suggesting that human immortality may be achievable in the first few decades of the 21st century.

On the other hand, some believe that death is a divine blessing  and eternal life will lead to the fullness of the earth and systemic disorder.

I never wanted to be immortal. Its one of the saddest thing that can happen to a human being. Seeing everyone died and generations passed and still alive because of immortality can make a person lonely. You will have all the things in the world but knowing that everyone around you will leave you someday can leave a person empty. I watched an anime like this and it made me realize that immortality is not the answer.

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