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March 01, 2018, 12:31:19 PM
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Sorry to say but the "real number" is waaay lower
as you can see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.msg31227162#msg31227162
Your stats are good if anyone do things in the right way but as you can see only 1 guy can move around 500 merit, (1 GUY/135000 members).
Now imagine only if 1% will cheat what happens.

I'm wondering, OP did you take this into consideration when calculating your numbers? I'm wondering if you accounted for banned accounts, people caught or tagged for abusing merit. Where did you get your 135k members to calculate, was this everyone that has received merit up to the point of your calculations?

I would be much more confident in the numbers if I knew that known merit abusers were left out of the equation, or even factored as a 0. It also might be interested to eliminate any 0's or absurdly high outliers for the sake of realism. You'd be able to say something along the lines of "Users that have received at least 1-merit average X merit."
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March 27, 2018, 08:53:24 PM
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What is this copper stuff?

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March 27, 2018, 10:06:06 PM
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What is this copper stuff?

Copper membership gives rights to the newbies to post images, but they have to pay a fee. I think it also removes some limitations to send PMs.

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March 27, 2018, 11:03:48 PM
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What is this copper stuff?
Read this: Newbies can now pay a small fee to enable images

By popular demand, newbies can now pay to have some of their restrictions lifted. If you pay the fee, you become a Copper Member, and you can post images. That's the main point of this: allowing newbies to post images. Additionally (and these might change depending on how things go), Copper Members currently have these bonuses:

- Some of the same permissions as Member-rank members, such as reduced signature styling restrictions. (But none of the PM-related restrictions are currently lifted, such as the style limit or per-hour PM limit.)
- Your "you must wait ____ seconds between ___" counter is reduced by 75%. So if you're naturally of Newbie rank, you only have to wait 360-75% = 90 seconds.

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March 28, 2018, 01:18:09 AM
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So I guess, it seems like this merit system is kinda hard for those whose at the bottom. We should do our best as newbies. Lol.
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March 28, 2018, 02:28:01 AM
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Hello both zentdex and Snappycoco,
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So I guess, it seems like this merit system is kinda hard for those whose at the bottom. We should do our best as newbies. Lol.
I would like to join current discussion about merit system in the topic created by zentdex, which is actually interesting. I agree that lower-ranked members in the forum seems to get lower merits after the launch of merit system. I am not sure about reliability of zentdex data analysis, but I highly appreciate his works.
In my point of view, it will be better if zentdex can make further analysis about average post-length (character counts) of each ranks. This one will help us to have clear picture about what's going on with merit system, merit circulation, and quality of each ranks (naively based on their post-length). Of course, threads which are too long don't mean that they are high-qualitied, but we should have those statistical figures at first.
Thanks zentdex.

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March 28, 2018, 02:25:50 PM
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Nice work on taking time to do this. It's is a start for more accountability and transparency in the forum. Also with this I think we would now have less threads in the Meta section about not getting merits. Question, is there a way to see how the merits are being given? I have seen a couple threads indicating at merit recycling etc. Maybe with your data we can account for those abusing the merit system. With regards to this particular information, it would appear that the higher the rank, the more merit received - this further asserts the claim that low ranking member's are finding it diffult to receive merits or it could be that they aren't putting in the genuine hard work to get those merits. All in all, bravo and hope you can keep this up.
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March 28, 2018, 07:05:25 PM
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In my point of view, it will be better if zentdex can make further analysis about average post-length (character counts) of each ranks. This one will help us to have clear picture about what's going on with merit system, merit circulation, and quality of each ranks (naively based on their post-length). Of course, threads which are too long don't mean that they are high-qualitied, but we should have those statistical figures at first.


It's not the thread length that counts, but the way that the point(s) are put across. A post should be concise and informative, and not overly verbose.

Statistics showing post length would not be meaningful, and it might be difficult to avoid including quotes.

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March 28, 2018, 07:56:45 PM
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Really great info! You are definitely someone I need to follow for more statistical info on merits. I added this page to my thread where I am trying to centralize all the best posts about merit data to help out newbies interested in gaining merit. 

Since you have written what is without a doubt some of the best articles on merit, your almost 1/4 of all the topics I have on there right now.

Thank you for what you are doing to help out the community!!

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March 28, 2018, 08:07:05 PM
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The scheme is great, it would also be interesting which boards/ sections of the forum give the most merits, to those people who desire to get a merit know where the chance to become merited is the most high.
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March 28, 2018, 09:57:45 PM
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Great job, its clearly now, thanks. Only i have this question how you calculate 135k members, its amziing work.
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March 28, 2018, 10:01:59 PM
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Sorry to say but the "real number" is waaay lower
as you can see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2896910.msg31227162#msg31227162
Your stats are good if anyone do things in the right way but as you can see only 1 guy can move around 500 merit, (1 GUY/135000 members).
Now imagine only if 1% will cheat what happens.

I'm wondering, OP did you take this into consideration when calculating your numbers? I'm wondering if you accounted for banned accounts, people caught or tagged for abusing merit. Where did you get your 135k members to calculate, was this everyone that has received merit up to the point of your calculations?

I would be much more confident in the numbers if I knew that known merit abusers were left out of the equation, or even factored as a 0. It also might be interested to eliminate any 0's or absurdly high outliers for the sake of realism. You'd be able to say something along the lines of "Users that have received at least 1-merit average X merit."

Guess no, cause is hard to check and a lot easier to report data without watch them Wink

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March 29, 2018, 07:52:23 AM
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Qualifying is a very difficult issue. I've posted a lot of posts yet I'm unable to get the Merit. Merit is very difficult to achieve.
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March 29, 2018, 08:14:53 AM
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Sharing the data used for this analysis will help to back up your findings, because everything needs to be put into consideration. The info graph shows that people of lowers ranks, get more merits, but i have seen some accounts of most especially Jr. Members still in the position and having lots of activities, yet no merit.
Data i think will justify your findings.
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March 29, 2018, 03:20:38 PM
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Amazing post, and now i am enlighten to this merit, and to what happen every month to the merit system. Thank you for your information. I hope that i will receive merit..
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