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November 01, 2019, 10:29:32 PM
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You people are so gullible its pathetic lol.

Nothing is as pathetic as simultaneously trolling this thread and also promoting the site to earn referral commissions from people gullible enough to think your shitbot dice script gives them some advantage.


No more pathetic than this little gem:  "A provably fair draw picked out a lucky name, rather, a lucky User ID out of the millions of users that participated, and the winner is all set to receive a brand new Lamborghini Huracan or 21.87 BTC as a prize. "  Quoted directly from:  https://freebitco.in/site/blogs/bitcoin/lamborghini-giveaway-winner-announced/  and saved here:  https://web.archive.org/save/https://freebitco.in/site/blogs/bitcoin/lamborghini-giveaway-winner-announced/ in case you try to edit it lol

Crack open the User IDs txt file and what do we find?  66354 user IDs (of which about only 50-100 are actually "real", give or take a few 100).  Thats a FAR cry from "Millions of users".  Lie some more pls.  Like I said b4,  the lotteries (including this lambo thing) are a complete sham and waste of time.  No one real actually wins those.  Ever.  And if they do, it's a small miracle due to the sheer amount of fake accounts you place in the drawing pools.

Bottom line,  if you cant "prove" the user ID's are REAL, then the whole "Provably fair" claim goes right out the window.  End of story.

New idea for the "Betting" section:

Will the next Lottery or Lambo winner post in the bitcointalk threads!
Options:
"Yes" but it'll come from an unverified/newbie account
"Yes" It'll come from a verified account with lots of post history (Most likely to receive 0 votes here lol)
"No"  Thats absurd, no one actually wins these things.

I even gave you 2 "Yes" options. lol

CURRENT BITCOIN BLOCK: 601845
BITCOIN BLOCK FOR CLIENT SEED: 601857

Any clue why 601846 to 601856 were not chosen but 601857? I may answer: they were used but winner is not the house owned ID until 601857. Someone if you know how is the calculation, please check if 601846 to 601856 yield any winner please.

The most questionable things that look suspicious is the ticket list & block id used for the draw were published at the same time with winner ID announcement. At least they could post the list first and announce the block ID which is 1 or 2 days ahead before the drawing taking place. It's fair if this block number was published before the announcement of drawing and then the winner, but in this case it's not and it's big question lol. Any way, you should do that way next draw.
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November 01, 2019, 10:49:38 PM
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I've checked my email for the Lambo delivery details, it must be backlogged.     I didnt spot where the list is immediately, if you point me to the text file I'll check for my own user ID on there.    I didnt have many tickets but even this guy with 180 tickets is pretty lucky and Im sure some had many more then that.

I worked out the interest if they deposit their 21.87 prize and leave it while they ponder the riches, its over .002 BTC a day or 22 dollars or almost 0.9 BTC for a year.   Enough to buy a used mini even while holding hoping for the BTC highs, ie. buy the Lambo later Smiley


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November 01, 2019, 11:03:47 PM
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It's only "correct" if your english is that of maybe pre-school level.  You dont have 100 people come to an event and then claim 100s of thousands came to it just because 100s of thousands were aware of the event.  That would be like the Powerball claiming that 7.53 billion users (current population of earth) played it's lottery last week simply because that many people know of it's existence.  Traffic or popularity has NOTHING to do with how many of anything participated in an event let alone this lambo sham.  The txt file they put out DOESNT MATCH what they claimed on their own blog post.  That just goes to show a precedence of lying when there is no need to do so.  That kind of thing has a name.  It's called:  Compulsive lying.

You may be correct they should publish all data they used for drawing

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November 02, 2019, 12:01:50 AM
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CURRENT BITCOIN BLOCK: 601845
BITCOIN BLOCK FOR CLIENT SEED: 601857

Any clue why 601846 to 601856 were not chosen but 601857? I may answer: they were used but winner is not the house owned ID until 601857. Someone if you know how is the calculation, please check if 601846 to 601856 yield any winner please.

The most questionable things that look suspicious is the ticket list & block id used for the draw were published at the same time with winner ID announcement. At least they could post the list first and announce the block ID which is 1 or 2 days ahead before the drawing taking place. It's fair if this block number was published before the announcement of drawing and then the winner, but in this case it's not and it's big question lol. Any way, you should do that way next draw.

It's an integral part of what makes it provably fair. We put a tweet out in advance with a link to the ticket file that tells you which block in the future will be used for the server seed. You can then download that file BEFORE the draw happens so you can prove we didn't do what you just said.




Of course, it had a super high affect but for some reason you guys decline to do the math, the way it could be calculated has been explained a million times already

Because I'm still waiting for an answer to this question and the million explanations of other ways are all wrong.

OK. You tell me the formula I should use to determine how much of the 150 BTC wagered yesterday would not have been wagered if we weren't giving away a Lambo and I'll tell you how well the promo is doing.




You may be correct they should publish all data they used for drawing

The Village Idiot is never correct. We did publish everything you need to work out the winner yourself.

https://twitter.com/freebitco/status/1190070026612531202

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PROVABLY FAIR LOTTERY
SERVER SEED HASH FOR CURRENT ROUND
614b31c108dd30c335983826c64ea9a2bf258fc814d77c5a75d5e328bb1f12db
This lottery is provably fair. What that means is that there is no way the site can cheat you by picking a lottery winner who we favour. All winners are picked randomly and the method for picking the winners is described below.

At the beginning of each round, we generate a server seed for that round and show you the SHA256 hash of this seed.
When a lottery round has concluded, we make a list of all user id's and their lottery tickets and sort it in ascending order of the user id's.
We then use this list to assign ticket numbers for all tickets. For example if user id 1 has 10 tickets and user id 2 has 20 tickets, then user id 1 will have ticket numbers 0 to 9 and user id 2 will have ticket numbers from 10 to 29. This is done for all users.
Then the list containing the user id's, tickets held by each user and their ticket numbers is published in a text file. This file also contains the total number of tickets issued in the round and the server seed for that round.
A MD5 hash of this text file is calculated.
Then the current bitcoin block number is recorded and a block number that is 12 blocks into the future is decided on. The block hash of this future block is used as a "client seed" ie. a seed that we are not aware of when the list in step 4 has been published.
Then a tweet is made via our twitter account (https://twitter.com/freebitco) containing the link to the file generated in step 4, the MD5 hash of the file and the future bitcoin block number as determined in step 6. Since tweets cannot be edited, only deleted, this will provide a timestamp for when the list in step 4 was made, which can be compared to check that the bitcoin block determined in step 6 is in the future ie. we do not know the block hash of this block when the list is generated.
The winning ticket numbers will be calculated as described below:
A string (STRING1) is created - "[SERVER SEED]:[BLOCK HASH]:[WINNING POSITION]".
The SHA256 hash of STRING1 is calculated and the first 8 characters of this hash are taken (STRING2).
STRING2 is converted to a decimal which gives us a number between 0 and 4,294,967,295 (NUM1).
NUM1 is then multiplied by the (total number of tickets minus 1) and divided by 4,294,967,295 to get a number (NUM2) between 0 and the total number of tickets less 1.
NUM2 is then rounded off to the nearest whole number which is the winning ticket number.
HOW IS THE SYSTEM FAIR?

The system described above that is used for picking the winners is provably fair because it has multiple safeguards in place to ensure that winners are picked randomly and fairly.

We provide a SHA256 hash of the server seed when a lottery round starts. If we change the server seed at any time, the SHA256 hash of the new seed will not match the hash we provided earlier. After a round has ended and we provide the server seed that will be used to pick winners, the hash of the seed we provide can be checked against the hash we provided originally and both should match.
We use a future bitcoin block hash as the "client seed" ie. a seed that we do not know of. All bitcoin block hashes are unique and nobody knows what the block hash of a future block will be until the block has been mined.
We use twitter to publish the future bitcoin block number, the list of users and their ticket numbers and the MD5 hash of the user list. It provides a timestamp to check if the block hash that we use is indeed in the future. Since tweets cannot be edited, only deleted - if we delete the tweet after the future block has been mined and publish a new one, it would be easy to catch us cheating by comparing the timestamp of the tweet and that of the bitcoin block. The timestamp of the tweet should always be lesser than the time timestamp of the bitcoin block whose hash is used as the client seed.
We provide a MD5 hash of the text file containing the list of users and their ticket numbers. If even a single character in the text file is changed after the MD5 hash in the tweet is published, the MD5 hash of the edited file will not match the MD5 hash provided in the tweet.



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November 02, 2019, 04:45:20 AM
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I can confirm they can't manipulate the lottery draw. The drawing method is quite good and provably fair as they claim.

They don't need the House ID to win the prize. You will know it if you do some math.
I ticket cost 25k satoshi and with that 25000*5,954,089 = 1488.52225000 BTC

I'm not saying they are making that much profit(Number could be lying) but they can afford a Lambo giveaway easily with those stats.
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November 02, 2019, 05:49:47 AM
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I can confirm they can't manipulate the lottery draw. The drawing method is quite good and provably fair as they claim.

They don't need the House ID to win the prize. You will know it if you do some math.
I ticket cost 25k satoshi and with that 25000*5,954,089 = 1488.52225000 BTC

I'm not saying they are making that much profit(Number could be lying) but they can afford a Lambo giveaway easily with those stats.

The number isn't lying but we only sold 7554 tickets the rest were given away for wagering.

7554*0.00025000 = 1.88850000 BTC

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November 02, 2019, 06:12:18 AM
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I can confirm they can't manipulate the lottery draw. The drawing method is quite good and provably fair as they claim.

They don't need the House ID to win the prize. You will know it if you do some math.
I ticket cost 25k satoshi and with that 25000*5,954,089 = 1488.52225000 BTC

I'm not saying they are making that much profit(Number could be lying) but they can afford a Lambo giveaway easily with those stats.

The number isn't lying but we only sold 7554 tickets the rest were given away for wagering.

7554*0.00025000 = 1.88850000 BTC


I'll don't consider tickets given away for depositing the money. Rest all came from wagering must play some significant role in making the giveaway possible. Overall, the website is not in loss due to the giveaway. There is no reason for them to cheat the giveaway which is even not possible as well.
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November 02, 2019, 06:21:50 AM
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Rest all came from wagering must play some significant role in making the giveaway possible. Overall, the website is not in loss due to the giveaway. There is no reason for them to cheat the giveaway which is even not possible as well.

That's the point of running a promotion, to increase turnover. As I was explaining above it just isn't possible to measure how much of the increase in turnover during that period was due solely to the promotion. We think it went well which why we're doing it again, but it can't be quantified.

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November 02, 2019, 06:38:28 AM
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Rest all came from wagering must play some significant role in making the giveaway possible. Overall, the website is not in loss due to the giveaway. There is no reason for them to cheat the giveaway which is even not possible as well.

That's the point of running a promotion, to increase turnover. As I was explaining above it just isn't possible to measure how much of the increase in turnover during that period was due solely to the promotion. We think it went well which why we're doing it again, but it can't be quantified.

I was looking at the stats page and wondering how much you were paying daily as interest. Before and after stats will have a huge difference. Love to see that stats as well if possible.
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November 02, 2019, 06:41:07 AM
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damn, he won with only 185 tickets. congrats on his super luck Smiley
i had a lot more tickets than that, i am starting to think that my User ID number is cursed since i never win any lotteries either haha. fingers crossed for the next round though.

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November 02, 2019, 07:34:59 AM
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damn, he won with only 185 tickets. congrats on his super luck Smiley
i had a lot more tickets than that, i am starting to think that my User ID number is cursed since i never win any lotteries either haha. fingers crossed for the next round though.

I don't think it was 185 tickets, it was user ID 185. Meaning to say this was a very early user, probably one of the oldest I guess? If he had 185 tix I would be a little envious because I had over 100 more than him!

Anyway, thanks for the explanation also Quin on captcha. I think I definitely have a (-) on my freeroll - wager losses is why;)

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November 02, 2019, 08:03:37 AM
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damn, he won with only 185 tickets. congrats on his super luck Smiley
i had a lot more tickets than that, i am starting to think that my User ID number is cursed since i never win any lotteries either haha. fingers crossed for the next round though.

I don't think it was 185 tickets, it was user ID 185. Meaning to say this was a very early user, probably one of the oldest I guess? If he had 185 tix I would be a little envious because I had over 100 more than him!

Anyway, thanks for the explanation also Quin on captcha. I think I definitely have a (-) on my freeroll - wager losses is why;)

I'm working for my next Lambo now, might as well!
You need to check again because I also just check its not ID number 185


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It was tickets 185 as shown in the picture - https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fsirv.freebitco.in%2F1572584549_r51dzJHh.png&t=606&c=Mz4zsQSM1daPFg
   In terms of direct ticket sales it sounds quite generous raffle tbh, the opposite of any negative view.   If the site wasnt successful it wouldnt continue have no doubt on that, Ive seen so many sites come and go for various reasons.  Bitcoin is high growth high drop out rate afaik,  
   How people manage to moan about a free faucet site that gives people interest on deposits and even a free raffle ticket for some amazing prize, typical spoilt 1st world culture I guess.    Other threads about companies I read, the management of a site complains and causes trouble, fields big fees uses nasty contract small print against people who just deposit then try to withdraw their own money not even any idea of giving them something on top every day for it.    Good gambler knows when he is lucky, thats all Im saying.


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November 02, 2019, 07:04:23 PM
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Of course, it had a super high affect but for some reason you guys decline to do the math, the way it could be calculated has been explained a million times already

Because I'm still waiting for an answer to this question and the million explanations of other ways are all wrong.
Yeah, you can calculate how much of that profit is yours without lambo and how much of it is lambo. First of all, you restarted the lambo giveaway literally right after this one, so you acknowledge that lambo giveaway was super profitable, who would not even at least talk about it for a while and restart it after certain period if they are not sure about profitability? You know you made a ton of profit.

Now, I am not saying you made "x amount of bitcoin" that is impossible to calculate however it is quite possible to calculate that Lambo did helped you make enough money to both give 200k or lambo and still have some profits, that was the discussion here, you guys profited from this, it could be +1 bitcoin profit, it could be +1000 but in the end there was a profit for sure.

Now, you can decline to acknowledge the fact that you guys profited from it (why shouldn't you, this whole discussion is idiotic, you SHOULD make a profit, that is the whole purpose of running a business) and not acknowledge the fact that you did profited from it in public.

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November 02, 2019, 07:26:03 PM
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Of course, it had a super high affect but for some reason you guys decline to do the math, the way it could be calculated has been explained a million times already

Because I'm still waiting for an answer to this question and the million explanations of other ways are all wrong.
Yeah, you can calculate how much of that profit is yours without lambo and how much of it is lambo. First of all, you restarted the lambo giveaway literally right after this one, so you acknowledge that lambo giveaway was super profitable, who would not even at least talk about it for a while and restart it after certain period if they are not sure about profitability? You know you made a ton of profit.

Now, I am not saying you made "x amount of bitcoin" that is impossible to calculate however it is quite possible to calculate that Lambo did helped you make enough money to both give 200k or lambo and still have some profits, that was the discussion here, you guys profited from this, it could be +1 bitcoin profit, it could be +1000 but in the end there was a profit for sure.

Now, you can decline to acknowledge the fact that you guys profited from it (why shouldn't you, this whole discussion is idiotic, you SHOULD make a profit, that is the whole purpose of running a business) and not acknowledge the fact that you did profited from it in public.

I don't think investigation of effect of Lamborghini lottery on the profit matter to wetsuit and TheQuin that much.
200,000 dollar is a very big money for almost all of the people including me. But that's not a big amount when we talk about the profit freebitco makes. 200,000 dollar is a very small part of the profit they makes. I think this amount is earned in less than a week whether there is a lambo or not.

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November 02, 2019, 10:56:13 PM
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185 isn't such small number of tickets, considering that there was almost 6 million tickets in total. I'm not good in maths, but it would interesting to see if someone would calculate his chance to win in %.
In weekly lottery usually there is between 200 and 300 million lottery tickets bought. And sometimes people with similar number of tickets like Lambo winner wins something - they had extremely little possibilty to win. While in Lambo lottery chance to win wasn't such small just because there was less tickets in total.
It would be interesting to hear, did winner already contacted Freebitco.in? What did chose - Lambo or money?




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November 02, 2019, 11:42:07 PM
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Of course, it had a super high affect but for some reason you guys decline to do the math, the way it could be calculated has been explained a million times already

Because I'm still waiting for an answer to this question and the million explanations of other ways are all wrong.
Yeah, you can calculate how much of that profit is yours without lambo and how much of it is lambo. First of all, you restarted the lambo giveaway literally right after this one, so you acknowledge that lambo giveaway was super profitable, who would not even at least talk about it for a while and restart it after certain period if they are not sure about profitability? You know you made a ton of profit.

Now, I am not saying you made "x amount of bitcoin" that is impossible to calculate however it is quite possible to calculate that Lambo did helped you make enough money to both give 200k or lambo and still have some profits, that was the discussion here, you guys profited from this, it could be +1 bitcoin profit, it could be +1000 but in the end there was a profit for sure.

Now, you can decline to acknowledge the fact that you guys profited from it (why shouldn't you, this whole discussion is idiotic, you SHOULD make a profit, that is the whole purpose of running a business) and not acknowledge the fact that you did profited from it in public.

Answer my question. You just said, "Yeah, you can calculate how much of that profit is yours without lambo and how much of it is lambo.". So tell me the formula to use to calculate how much would have been wagered if we weren't giving away a Lambo.

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November 02, 2019, 11:45:57 PM
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185 isn't such small number of tickets, considering that there was almost 6 million tickets in total. I'm not good in maths, but it would interesting to see if someone would calculate his chance to win in %.
In weekly lottery usually there is between 200 and 300 million lottery tickets bought. And sometimes people with similar number of tickets like Lambo winner wins something - they had extremely little possibilty to win. While in Lambo lottery chance to win wasn't such small just because there was less tickets in total.
It would be interesting to hear, did winner already contacted Freebitco.in? What did chose - Lambo or money?

It's 100% coin chosen rather than the real Lambo and that's also what's the owner expected at the beginning. Winner doesn't risk to expose his identity and the casino owner wouldn't want to expose his identity. Winner will get tax issue, and the owner will have the risk of safety for his own (who know the winner might be a gang himself and just waited to meet up the rich casino boss). So inconclude it's 100% that the prize being made via bitcoin.
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November 03, 2019, 12:01:01 AM
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185 isn't such small number of tickets, considering that there was almost 6 million tickets in total. I'm not good in maths, but it would interesting to see if someone would calculate his chance to win in %.
In weekly lottery usually there is between 200 and 300 million lottery tickets bought. And sometimes people with similar number of tickets like Lambo winner wins something - they had extremely little possibilty to win. While in Lambo lottery chance to win wasn't such small just because there was less tickets in total.
It would be interesting to hear, did winner already contacted Freebitco.in? What did chose - Lambo or money?

It's 100% coin chosen rather than the real Lambo and that's also what's the owner expected at the beginning. Winner doesn't risk to expose his identity and the casino owner wouldn't want to expose his identity. Winner will get tax issue, and the owner will have the risk of safety for his own (who know the winner might be a gang himself and just waited to meet up the rich casino boss). So inconclude it's 100% that the prize being made via bitcoin.

I'm still waiting for them to reply.

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November 03, 2019, 12:16:12 AM
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I'm still waiting for them to reply.

Lol yeah, like the other big Power Ball winner, he/she may need to stay calm for a while. With that amount converted to cash, one might have a good comfortable living off the saving interest in some countries.
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