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TheQuin
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August 13, 2018, 09:33:09 AM |
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What do you mean by free winnings?
Just now I claimed free coins and purchased lotteries without any issue. For quite some time I didn't claim my free coins but after reading your above post claimed and purchased lottery tickets.
I'm guessing your account roll history includes something other than just free-rolls and buying lottery tickets with every Satoshi. |
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chris200x9
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August 13, 2018, 09:53:43 AM |
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What do you mean by free winnings?
Just now I claimed free coins and purchased lotteries without any issue. For quite some time I didn't claim my free coins but after reading your above post claimed and purchased lottery tickets.
I'm guessing your account roll history includes something other than just free-rolls and buying lottery tickets with every Satoshi. I don't know what your guessing. But my account is very old and honestly I never deposit a single Santoshi into my account until now. But many times withdrawn my referral earning to my personal wallet on a weekly basis long back. Now for more than a year most of my referrals are inactive and no earnings from referrals. But every week I used claim few times free coins and buy lottery tickets but last couple of months not so active on this site. Today only I claimed and bought free tickets with free money. |
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TheQuin
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August 13, 2018, 10:09:30 AM |
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I don't know what your guessing. But my account is very old and honestly I never deposit a single Santoshi into my account until now. But many times withdrawn my referral earning to my personal wallet on a weekly basis long back. Now for more than a year most of my referrals are inactive and no earnings from referrals.
But every week I used claim few times free coins and buy lottery tickets but last couple of months not so active on this site. Today only I claimed and bought free tickets with free money.
The entire history is taken into account. I was guessing that your account history doesn't just consist of free-rolls and then spending it all on lottery tickets so if that is what you did today it isn't going to be a problem. I'm not even entirely sure what wetsuit has done as he is away travelling now and what I said before was pretty much the entire content of the email I got overnight. |
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August 13, 2018, 02:47:36 PM |
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Yea, it was strange to see lots of winners with 25k tickets entered into the Lottery this week. http://prntscr.com/ki367eA pity that these bots are killing the fun for the rest of us, but I reckon if they change strategy, then you should try your best to counter them too.  It can be very profitable for them if they take most of the prizes in the Lottery and raping the faucet.  |
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August 13, 2018, 03:03:39 PM |
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I don't know what your guessing. But my account is very old and honestly I never deposit a single Santoshi into my account until now. But many times withdrawn my referral earning to my personal wallet on a weekly basis long back. Now for more than a year most of my referrals are inactive and no earnings from referrals.
But every week I used claim few times free coins and buy lottery tickets but last couple of months not so active on this site. Today only I claimed and bought free tickets with free money.
The entire history is taken into account. I was guessing that your account history doesn't just consist of free-rolls and then spending it all on lottery tickets so if that is what you did today it isn't going to be a problem. I'm not even entirely sure what wetsuit has done as he is away travelling now and what I said before was pretty much the entire content of the email I got overnight. Since then I never trust this gambling website nor deposit also any single bitcoins. I just used this gambling site because of the free bets or a free chances to win big amount of bitcoin and I realized that I'm just wasting my time here. |
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TheQuin
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August 13, 2018, 03:29:40 PM |
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Since then I never trust this gambling website nor deposit also any single bitcoins. I just used this gambling site because of the free bets or a free chances to win big amount of bitcoin and I realized that I'm just wasting my time here.
I don't think you were following the whole conversation. I was talking about the type of bots that we are dealing with right now. That is why we have had to stop some accounts buying lottery tickets with free winnings as an interim measure. You still have the chance to win big and you won't find another gambling site that lets you just claim the faucet all the way up to withdrawal. |
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August 14, 2018, 12:16:34 AM |
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Was their a field under personal stats that said “won on lottery” before recently? I don’t see t now but I thought there was (right under “spent on lottery”)
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chris200x9
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August 14, 2018, 01:43:46 AM |
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I don't know what your guessing. But my account is very old and honestly I never deposit a single Santoshi into my account until now. But many times withdrawn my referral earning to my personal wallet on a weekly basis long back. Now for more than a year most of my referrals are inactive and no earnings from referrals.
But every week I used claim few times free coins and buy lottery tickets but last couple of months not so active on this site. Today only I claimed and bought free tickets with free money.
The entire history is taken into account. I was guessing that your account history doesn't just consist of free-rolls and then spending it all on lottery tickets so if that is what you did today it isn't going to be a problem. I'm not even entirely sure what wetsuit has done as he is away travelling now and what I said before was pretty much the entire content of the email I got overnight. Since then I never trust this gambling website nor deposit also any single bitcoins. I just used this gambling site because of the free bets or a free chances to win big amount of bitcoin and I realized that I'm just wasting my time here. All luck based games are the same. You don't know whether you can win or not even though you buy tons of lotteries. If you just miss one number then everything has gone. If you think it is waste of time then move on with other things. Still, it is free tickets to try our luck every week and it won't take much time to claim a few times in a week (my account, no need to solve captcha) so for me it okay to try my luck. You still have the chance to win big and you won't find another gambling site that lets you just claim the faucet all the way up to withdrawal.
Yes, they allow but one has to claim for a few months to year time to reach that limit.  |
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TheQuin
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August 14, 2018, 06:15:39 AM |
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Was their a field under personal stats that said “won on lottery” before recently? I don’t see t now but I thought there was (right under “spent on lottery”)
No. If you are having trouble keeping track of all your lottery winnings we do send all the winners an email with the details.
Yes, they allow but one has to claim for a few months to year time to reach that limit. Or one roll of over 9994. What I'm really getting at is that all other gambling sites would see someone that plays for free and then withdraws without ever depositing as an abuser. That's the difference here and why we are still a faucet site as well as a gambling site. |
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August 14, 2018, 02:26:58 PM |
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if I connect 2fa, I will need to confirm WITHDRAW by mail?
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TheQuin
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August 14, 2018, 02:30:05 PM |
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if I connect 2fa, I will need to confirm WITHDRAW by mail?
No, 2FA replaces the withdraw email confirmation. I strongly recommend 2FA as it secures your account in the event that your email is hacked. The only email confirmation you will need is to enable the 2FA in the first place. |
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August 14, 2018, 02:32:21 PM |
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thank bro, so I'll do it))))
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August 14, 2018, 11:20:10 PM |
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indeed, I noticed that too. it seems like an organized bot behavior buying/collecting ~25k tickets though I'm curious on the method that they use, did they actually make deposit and play multiple btc? by my calculation, on a 4x reward weekend, each account needs to wager minimum 0.025 BTC that gives 5k tickets and 20k RP, then convert RP to ticket for total 25k tickets or spent 25k satoshi to buy tickets? or used RP for lottery ticket boost on claiming free rolls? |
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August 15, 2018, 12:21:57 AM |
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indeed, I noticed that too. it seems like an organized bot behavior buying/collecting ~25k tickets though I'm curious on the method that they use, did they actually make deposit and play multiple btc? by my calculation, on a 4x reward weekend, each account needs to wager minimum 0.025 BTC that gives 5k tickets and 20k RP, then convert RP to ticket for total 25k tickets or spent 25k satoshi to buy tickets? or used RP for lottery ticket boost on claiming free rolls? I believe it does not really matter on how much tickets that you can get too but as long as you are lucky enough to be part of their winners then so be it. Anyway, I do not think people want to spend their RP for tickets, I do not saying that it is not worth but RP may be is good enough for a solid prize rather than gamble it for the prize which we never know the result |
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TheQuin
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August 15, 2018, 04:42:27 AM |
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indeed, I noticed that too. it seems like an organized bot behavior buying/collecting ~25k tickets though I'm curious on the method that they use, did they actually make deposit and play multiple btc? by my calculation, on a 4x reward weekend, each account needs to wager minimum 0.025 BTC that gives 5k tickets and 20k RP, then convert RP to ticket for total 25k tickets or spent 25k satoshi to buy tickets? or used RP for lottery ticket boost on claiming free rolls? They were not playing dice at all just free-rolls and buying lotto tickets with all the winnings. They organise the bots so that they are referred to other bots but they don't make each network very big so it is difficult for us to find. To get 25k tickets in a week just from free-rolls and referral on free-rolls takes about 10 referrals. @BTCevo I thought I asked you to stop signature spamming this thread. |
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August 15, 2018, 12:05:06 PM
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usually the number of tickets winners have is covering a wide range. like from 400 tickets to 4 million. but this round it seems like the lucky number was around having 25k tickets. basically every 7 or if we want to stretch it a bit 8 including the first one had near that number of tickets ...  Lol, I checked the top 10 of lottery this week and nr 6 won 0.09 BTC with 50 tickets. My hart was pumping as I always buy 50 tickets every round, but I quickly found out that I am not the lucky one  . Too bad, would like to win some day (like everybody else on here  ) I like to win with my 200-500 tickets per week which I gain for free. that would feel a lot better
How many times we see old ID in winners? 2 out of 1000 times? |
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TheQuin
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August 15, 2018, 12:15:18 PM |
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usually the number of tickets winners have is covering a wide range. like from 400 tickets to 4 million. but this round it seems like the lucky number was around having 25k tickets. basically every 7 or if we want to stretch it a bit 8 including the first one had near that number of tickets ... ~ Lol, I checked the top 10 of lottery this week and nr 6 won 0.09 BTC with 50 tickets. My hart was pumping as I always buy 50 tickets every round, but I quickly found out that I am not the lucky one . Too bad, would like to win some day (like everybody else on here ) I like to win with my 200-500 tickets per week which I gain for free. that would feel a lot better
How many times we see old ID in winners? 2 out of 1000 times? Try reading back what is in between the post you just quoted and this one. That is what we have been discussing. |
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August 15, 2018, 12:20:24 PM |
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usually the number of tickets winners have is covering a wide range. like from 400 tickets to 4 million. but this round it seems like the lucky number was around having 25k tickets. basically every 7 or if we want to stretch it a bit 8 including the first one had near that number of tickets ... ~ Lol, I checked the top 10 of lottery this week and nr 6 won 0.09 BTC with 50 tickets. My hart was pumping as I always buy 50 tickets every round, but I quickly found out that I am not the lucky one . Too bad, would like to win some day (like everybody else on here ) I like to win with my 200-500 tickets per week which I gain for free. that would feel a lot better
How many times we see old ID in winners? 2 out of 1000 times? Try reading back what is in between the post you just quoted and this one. That is what we have been discussing. Instead of nonsense reply, answer my question! They question is why 99% of winners are new users! How many times we see old ID in winners? 2 out of 1000 times? . |
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TheQuin
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August 15, 2018, 12:28:41 PM |
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Instead of nonsense reply, answer my question!
It is not nonsense to point out that I have already answered the question and you jumped into a conversation by quoting the first post of it and haven't considered the other information in the following replies. You'll also notice that usually we sell and giveaway about 400 to 500 million tickets but last week was over 1 billion and this week 1.3 billion. Since we've reduced rewards for non-gamblers and restricted the Reward Point redemptions to try and stop the botnets they have switched to buying lottery tickets with their free-roll winnings.
It looks to me like those 8 accounts are likely part of large botnets. We're working on ways to stop them but in the meantime we have disabled the purchase of lottery tickets with free winnings.
We regularly ban botnets so they are new accounts each time. If you look back through the lottery past results you'll see the pattern recently since the botnets gave up on getting to minimum withdrawal and switched to playing the lottery. |
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August 15, 2018, 12:29:58 PM |
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Instead of nonsense reply, answer my question!
They question is why 99% of winners are new users!
How many times we see old ID in winners? 2 out of 1000 times?
Duh, a lot of people give up on crypto quite quickly. Or they don't stick around with faucets like these because they have better options for earnings rather than spending time earning 30 something satoshi an hour. The house edge is quite high compared to other online casinos. The earning on investment is still a fairly new feature and no one can really trust it with high amounts of money because we don't know wetsuits identity. I'm just pulling up the bad points of this site as to why people leave, I don't expect this to be considered "trolling" @theQuin? I registered in august 2015 and my ID is about 1500000. A lot of older users are also possibly using their referral links to earn money so aren't counted in the lottery. |
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