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March 28, 2018, 04:09:38 PM
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Zoomdice.com is seeking for investors. It is no secret that we are struggling with bankroll since the beginning. We managed to run the site for last 7 months with whatever funds we have but we want step into next level. So, we are trying to find investors.

Minimum Investment Amount: 0.01BTC or equivalent LTC/BCH/DOGE

Investor who will invest with us using following address can request withdrawal of their investment anytime they want. We will process their investment withdrawal request within next 10 days of their request. Transaction Fee is yours.

If you are interested to invest please post here with investment amount and time period for investment i will quote and let you know your bankroll share percentages. You must re-quote that with your confirmation.....

We can't guarantee how much profit you will make from your investment. So do not be disappointed if ROI do not fulfill your expectation.

I have the right to cancel or decline any investment.  

Warning: Investing in Casino bankroll involve high risk, you may lose up to 25% of your investment

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March 30, 2018, 11:35:20 AM
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Zoomdice.com is seeking for investors. It is no secret that we are struggling with bankroll since the beginning. We managed to run the site for last 7 months with whatever funds we have but we want step into next level. So, we are trying to find investors.

Minimum Investment Amount: 0.01BTC or equivalent LTC/BCH/DOGE

Investor who will invest with us using following address can request withdrawal of their investment anytime they want. We will process their investment withdrawal request within next 10 days of their request. Transaction Fee is yours.

If you are interested to invest please post here with investment amount and time period for investment i will quote and let you know your bankroll share percentages. You must re-quote that with your confirmation.....

We can't guarantee how much profit you will make from your investment. So do not be disappointed if ROI do not fulfill your expectation.

I have the right to cancel or decline any investment.  

Send your fund only to following bitcoin address.

Address:
Code:
1FF9TeyuYUn8ZJ8EjtWYXW586qUZrWUzLJ

Message:
Code:
I am hereby verifying this address is zoomdice.com investment address.

Signature:
Code:
Hx5Eo+OQJaARRLHP2qvi38TEB61NoJgoUKZbJBPEWG7AEvWTNLk9/uWdwEntMXKmK8enjSYAd9M9BADzrjFG0qo=




One, you post in the wrong place. You shouldve posted in the security section. Two, care to explain why anyone would risk investing in your website? Its good that you stated that the ROI isnt guarantee, but you also didnt state that there is a chance of their investment being less than what they put in. There is no guarantee that they will have the same investment (if not more).

How much do your site have left in bankroll if you dont mind me asking?
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March 30, 2018, 11:39:36 AM
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Zoomdice.com is seeking for investors. It is no secret that we are struggling with bankroll since the beginning. We managed to run the site for last 7 months with whatever funds we have but we want step into next level. So, we are trying to find investors.

Minimum Investment Amount: 0.01BTC or equivalent LTC/BCH/DOGE

Investor who will invest with us using following address can request withdrawal of their investment anytime they want. We will process their investment withdrawal request within next 10 days of their request. Transaction Fee is yours.

If you are interested to invest please post here with investment amount and time period for investment i will quote and let you know your bankroll share percentages. You must re-quote that with your confirmation.....

We can't guarantee how much profit you will make from your investment. So do not be disappointed if ROI do not fulfill your expectation.

I have the right to cancel or decline any investment.  

Send your fund only to following bitcoin address.

Address:
Code:
1FF9TeyuYUn8ZJ8EjtWYXW586qUZrWUzLJ

Message:
Code:
I am hereby verifying this address is zoomdice.com investment address.

Signature:
Code:
Hx5Eo+OQJaARRLHP2qvi38TEB61NoJgoUKZbJBPEWG7AEvWTNLk9/uWdwEntMXKmK8enjSYAd9M9BADzrjFG0qo=




One, you post in the wrong place. You shouldve posted in the security section. Two, care to explain why anyone would risk investing in your website? Its good that you stated that the ROI isnt guarantee, but you also didnt state that there is a chance of their investment being less than what they put in. There is no guarantee that they will have the same investment (if not more).

How much do your site have left in bankroll if you dont mind me asking?

I am really sorry i forgot to add that, I will update that. I will share our bankroll in pm as it is quite low but we always keep 1% of our bankroll as max profit per bet .

Edit: Already updated the post with warning.

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March 30, 2018, 05:43:39 PM
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Since you go round the forum telling people they can't get loans without collateral, what are you going to offer up? What escrow will hold your domain name rights just in case you don't repay?

What's the extent of your current bankroll (I don't understand what "fairly small" is)? To me that's anywhere from 0.001BTC to 1BTC depending as to where it is you're from.

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March 30, 2018, 06:02:15 PM
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Since you go round the forum telling people they can't get loans without collateral, what are you going to offer up? What escrow will hold your domain name rights just in case you don't repay?

What's the extent of your current bankroll (I don't understand what "fairly small" is)? To me that's anywhere from 0.001BTC to 1BTC depending as to where it is you're from.

I am not asking for loan here jackg. And about our bankroll i will just say we have made 1.47 btc profit since we launched the site.

This topic is for small investments only.

And if somebody wants to invest big amounts then i won't take funds from him, he can manage the fund himself. I am willing to offer 49% of our shares to someone who is willing to manage our funds. For example: If you want to invest like 20btc but do not trust us to handover the fund to us then no problem, you can keep the fund to yourself, you will have to just process the withdrawals. You will have 49% of our shares. (If it is confusing to you then just ask, i will clear it for you.)


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March 30, 2018, 07:24:57 PM
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Since you go round the forum telling people they can't get loans without collateral, what are you going to offer up? What escrow will hold your domain name rights just in case you don't repay?
Repay ? I doubt this is a loan request and they have any intentions of paying back.

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We can't guarantee how much profit you will make from your investment. So do not be disappointed if ROI do not fulfill your expectation.
So why would anyone want to lose their money again ? Your statement doesn't make you seem reliable or trustworthy enough for people to put faith in your project.

I am not asking for loan here jackg. And about our bankroll i will just say we have made 1.47 btc profit since we launched the site.
That's about in 5 months ? It's not a very impressive figure.Maybe you should change stuff internally because shortage of bankroll doesn't seem like a problem to me.


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March 30, 2018, 07:44:52 PM
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I am not asking for loan here jackg. And about our bankroll i will just say we have made 1.47 btc profit since we launched the site.
"I want an investment in my bankroll" - to me is, I'd like a loan for my company?
It is a loan, I'm giving you mpney in the hope of getting a repayment, and it's not like I'm going to legally own anything anyway if I invest in this. Call it whatever you want, it's still a loan.

This topic is for small investments only.
Define small please? This really isn't clear at all. What's small, the minimum's 0.01BTC, is that the "small" is it small in comparison to you or comparison to the "lender"/investor

And if somebody wants to invest big amounts then i won't take funds from him, he can manage the fund himself. I am willing to offer 49% of our shares to someone who is willing to manage our funds. For example: If you want to invest like 20btc but do not trust us to handover the fund to us then no problem, you can keep the fund to yourself, you will have to just process the withdrawals. You will have 49% of our shares. (If it is confusing to you then just ask, i will clear it for you.)
Such a confusing strategy to say the least...
How are your profits taken? If someone were to invest say 20BTC (OK, so obviously I don't yet have that amount that I'm willing to invest in a casino) I'd say to you, I'm investing 20BTC, you'd PM me whenever someone wanted to withdraw their funds and you don't have the money, you'd say to me, "can you pay them for me" and then I'd put in the money and invest there instead. If there was then a reward of 5BTC and you asked me to send that immediately to the winner, that'd look a bit fishy still don't you think?

Onto 49% of your shares how is that going to work as I see two issues:
1. You dissolve the company after laundering money somewhere and claim the company is bankrupt or even get me to do that and force a liquidation of it.
2. And, I'm not in your country (probably) so how would that work? I doubt I can own shares in your company without being in that country without some sort of escrow/trustee being set up.

Since you go round the forum telling people they can't get loans without collateral, what are you going to offer up? What escrow will hold your domain name rights just in case you don't repay?
Repay ? I doubt this is a loan request and they have any intentions of paying back.
Yeah it probably would seem that way. The potential loss of 25% might go cloudy and fall to 100% "accidently".
I mean if you double in profits and only have a member account then you're not going to care about paying it back anyway most likely (whether the site goes well or badly).

I am not asking for loan here jackg. And about our bankroll i will just say we have made 1.47 btc profit since we launched the site.
That's about in 5 months ? It's not a very impressive figure.Maybe you should change stuff internally because shortage of bankroll doesn't seem like a problem to me.
Is it "provably fair" @zoomdice? That might be your issue, you could at least try to make it that.
There are many ways to do this and you should try to take a look at them if you aren't alreayd provably fair. The site seems fairly active but a 1% house edge and a 1% take on investment profits seems a bit high. Maybe start both lower.

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March 30, 2018, 07:45:20 PM
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Since you go round the forum telling people they can't get loans without collateral, what are you going to offer up? What escrow will hold your domain name rights just in case you don't repay?
Repay ? I doubt this is a loan request and they have any intentions of paying back.

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We can't guarantee how much profit you will make from your investment. So do not be disappointed if ROI do not fulfill your expectation.
So why would anyone want to lose their money again ? Your statement doesn't make you seem reliable or trustworthy enough for people to put faith in your project.

I am not asking for loan here jackg. And about our bankroll i will just say we have made 1.47 btc profit since we launched the site.
That's about in 5 months ? It's not a very impressive figure.Maybe you should change stuff internally because shortage of bankroll doesn't seem like a problem to me.



If someone invest in our site we will give him profit based on our profit/loss. So i can't guaranty  how much profit they will get.

Our site was closed for 2 months for updates that was really bad for us and which i regret now.

From the beginning we are running the site with investors fund, they take about 65% of our total profit. Most of our investors withdraw their funds when bitcoin started to drop. Now we only have very few number of investors who have their faith in us and also in bitcoin.

We never did any kind of promotion like advertising, signature campaign for lack of funds. So, without promotions we will only go backward instead of forward. Also we have 0.01 btc max profit per bet which is very very low compared to other sites in the market. If we can't increase it to atleast 0.25 btc max profit per bet we can't progress.

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March 30, 2018, 08:09:59 PM
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@Jackg For first i don't want to handle the funds, i don't like to handle the funds. Since the beginning i am trying to find someone who will invest in the site and will handle the funds. He will hold 49% share of the site. No, i won't pm to you. You will be an admin of the site, you will  have access to all the data and metrics that i will have access to (Except the code). And yes if someone out of nowhere come and win 5 btc that is totally unrealistic cause if you invest 2 btc then max profit per bet will be 0.2 btc so he will have to win 50 bets with 2x payout or 250 bets with 1.10x payout which is nearly impossible to achieve and will require big amount of deposit.

And i said in that case you will be the one handling the funds so how can i launder the money without any access ?

And as you will be the only one with access to the funds it will secure your 49% and as i will be in control of the code and domain that will secure my 51%.

I know this is not perfect, But for now it is best option i have, Cause nobody here will handover 20 btc to me as investment here. Even if they do, it won't be in near future. People will come to me with investment if we get super success which we can't unless we have good investments. So, we are trapped in a circle.

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March 30, 2018, 09:54:43 PM
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Would you be interested in selling your dice script separately? If so, how much would you charge?
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March 31, 2018, 04:47:31 AM
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There is pretty much zero chance this site is legit. Especially considering what is almost certainly a fake vouch on the OPs trust.

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March 31, 2018, 02:01:01 PM
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There is pretty much zero chance this site is legit. Especially considering what is almost certainly a fake vouch on the OPs trust.

Ah yes. If the "earn 15% per month at least" was true, then I'd earn that from other sites already and the dice site would be untrustworthy (not sure if that user that gave him trust - if it's not zoomdice himself - has had success withdrawing any of his profits yet)?
@Jackg For first i don't want to handle the funds, i don't like to handle the funds. Since the beginning i am trying to find someone who will invest in the site and will handle the funds. He will hold 49% share of the site.

Don't like handling funds but want to get investment and get profits from a casino site, how are you actually going to function.

No, i won't pm to you.
Did I ask?

You will be an admin of the site, you will  have access to all the data and metrics that i will have access to (Except the code). And yes if someone out of nowhere come and win 5 btc that is totally unrealistic cause if you invest 2 btc then max profit per bet will be 0.2 btc so he will have to win 50 bets with 2x payout or 250 bets with 1.10x payout which is nearly impossible to achieve and will require big amount of deposit.
Not a great advertisement for your site. It is nearly impossible for anyone playing this to get the 1.10x payout with a 0.2BTC bet. You'll be losing a lot in the process of tryong to gain that. And I'm not suggesting someone comes along and wins that in a row. Maybe they martingale it over time and somehow get an amount that high.

And i said in that case you will be the one handling the funds so how can i launder the money without any access ?
By changing figures on your site while I'm not active...
You retain access to the code and the database, it's easy to run a simple "input into" command and rewrite everyone's losses (maybe you try gambling yourself with my funds, lose 0.5BTC and then suddenly delete that history?).

And as you will be the only one with access to the funds it will secure your 49% and as i will be in control of the code and domain that will secure my 51%.

I know this is not perfect, But for now it is best option i have, Cause nobody here will handover 20 btc to me as investment here.

Seriously, if someone wants to invest 20BTC in this way then go ahead, I definitely won't be advising it but if they really want to then go ahead.



We still didn't come up with collateral did we?

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March 31, 2018, 03:06:07 PM
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We still didn't come up with collateral did we?

They dont have the money to properly pay out those who pay, im pretty sure they dont have collateral.
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Did I ask?
Sorry there was something on your post about pm when someone asks for withdrawal. i can't find it now maybe you have edited or i read it wrong.

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Not a great advertisement for your site. It is nearly impossible for anyone playing this to get the 1.10x payout with a 0.2BTC bet. You'll be losing a lot in the process of tryong to gain that. And I'm not suggesting someone comes along and wins that in a row. Maybe they martingale it over time and somehow get an amount that high.
They can't martingle over 0.2 btc cause that will be our max bet if we have 20 btc bankroll.


I don't like handling funds cause i had to spend most of my time for doing updates on the site, So, if someone else handle the funds then i can only concentrate on coding and promotion of the site.


Look yes if you try to point out how i can scam you, you can point out thousands of ways. Business build on trust if you can't trust me even with keeping the fund with yourself then it won't work out.

In my point of view, There is a slight difference between loan and invesment,

case loan: If i take 20BTC loan from you i will have to pay you exactly 20BTC plus a fixed amount of interest.
case investment: The amount you will get in return is not fixed, you can make profit, you can loss too. you might get scammed too.

So, if anybody consider the risks and still invest then he is welcome. And if nobody wants to take the risk then no problem. I am not forcing anyone.

Anybody who wants to invest i will tell him about all the risks then he will decide it for himself if he will take the risk or not.

I am not saying to you invest here and i will make you rich.

And if i had the money to provide you collateral of 20BTC then why am i asking for investment ??


And yes zoomdice.com is Provably Fair.

And we have a circuit breaker installed if we lose 25% of our bankroll then it will automatically close betting system.

I am not a saint, And you don't know me personally, So, if there is a no way you can trust me, it's okay. But if you can trust me then invest.

I think i have the right to ask for investment in bitcointalk.




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March 31, 2018, 03:22:31 PM
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We still didn't come up with collateral did we?

They dont have the money to properly pay out those who pay, im pretty sure they dont have collateral.

If you want to check the list of our deposits(After 09/2017) and withdrawals(After 10/2017) then you are welcome.

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