Mudbankkeith
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February 12, 2014, 11:10:10 AM |
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Indeed there are. I fancy the challenge of etching my own for a small number of prototypes.
If there's enough interest then I'd get a bigger batch made up. I see there is one UK based company who actually has the work done in China or Singapore. From memory they worked out to about £3 per NF board if you were ordering a few hundred I think.
For me the only doubt I would have would be supplying the right files for a commercial production run out of the KiCad design.
Regards MonkeyThink
I looked at the NF rev7 and eventually came to the same decision as you.(It becomes a big investment risk to go commercial) The prototype would have been interesting though. If you do go ahead please keep posting.
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vs3 (OP)
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February 18, 2014, 08:47:27 AM |
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Indeed there are. I fancy the challenge of etching my own for a small number of prototypes.
If there's enough interest then I'd get a bigger batch made up. I see there is one UK based company who actually has the work done in China or Singapore. From memory they worked out to about £3 per NF board if you were ordering a few hundred I think.
For me the only doubt I would have would be supplying the right files for a commercial production run out of the KiCad design.
Regards MonkeyThink
I looked at the NF rev7 and eventually came to the same decision as you.(It becomes a big investment risk to go commercial) The prototype would have been interesting though. If you do go ahead please keep posting. DYI/making your own miners is always the most fun Here is an example: As for: vs3 - I'm assuming it's a 2 layer board and that the back is just ground? Thinking about the viability of etching my own boards I got a bit lazy with v2 - there is one track on the back I already got an idea on how to take care of that (in version 4 .. if we make it that far at all.. as that's going to be pretty much the only improvement and I'm not sure it's worth the hassle)
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vs3 (OP)
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February 18, 2014, 08:52:59 AM |
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Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser : bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [ 6 days 00:29:45] [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user **** Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471 Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s) Started: [00:41:51] ST:13 F:5 NB:1069 AS:0 BW:[268/ 59 B/s] E:38.92 I: 180uBTC/hr BS:29.1M 7/11 | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NFY 0: | 2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50% NFY 1: | 2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76% NFY 2: | 2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83% NFY 3: | 5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85% NFY 4: | 4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2% NFY 5: | 4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87% NFY 6: | 4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1 Diff 1.57k/16
for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which
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Taugeran
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February 18, 2014, 05:03:50 PM |
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Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser : bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [ 6 days 00:29:45] [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user **** Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471 Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s) Started: [00:41:51] ST:13 F:5 NB:1069 AS:0 BW:[268/ 59 B/s] E:38.92 I: 180uBTC/hr BS:29.1M 7/11 | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NFY 0: | 2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50% NFY 1: | 2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76% NFY 2: | 2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83% NFY 3: | 5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85% NFY 4: | 4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2% NFY 5: | 4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87% NFY 6: | 4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1 Diff 1.57k/16
for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which so the NFY driver works without mods?
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segaklon
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February 18, 2014, 05:12:35 PM |
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Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser : bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [ 6 days 00:29:45] [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user **** Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471 Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s) Started: [00:41:51] ST:13 F:5 NB:1069 AS:0 BW:[268/ 59 B/s] E:38.92 I: 180uBTC/hr BS:29.1M 7/11 | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NFY 0: | 2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50% NFY 1: | 2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76% NFY 2: | 2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83% NFY 3: | 5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85% NFY 4: | 4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2% NFY 5: | 4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87% NFY 6: | 4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1 Diff 1.57k/16
for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which The NF2 have 2 chips or 1 and this only lead to maximum performance?
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Mudbankkeith
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February 18, 2014, 05:27:05 PM |
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Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser : bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [ 6 days 00:29:45] [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user **** Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471 Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s) Started: [00:41:51] ST:13 F:5 NB:1069 AS:0 BW:[268/ 59 B/s] E:38.92 I: 180uBTC/hr BS:29.1M 7/11 | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NFY 0: | 2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50% NFY 1: | 2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76% NFY 2: | 2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83% NFY 3: | 5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85% NFY 4: | 4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2% NFY 5: | 4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87% NFY 6: | 4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1 Diff 1.57k/16
for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which This will wipe out any remaining value in a BFL jally
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February 18, 2014, 05:56:27 PM |
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BFGMiner git (and therefore the next version) has added support for NF2.
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TheRealSteve
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February 20, 2014, 07:56:38 PM |
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The NF2 have 2 chips or 1 and this only lead to maximum performance?
Check out the design / prototype pics a page back.. that plus the informal name 'NanoFury Duo' should be a hint
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Mudbankkeith
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February 20, 2014, 08:07:06 PM |
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How much and when? Some more of the NanoFury NF2 teaser : bfgminer version 3.10.0 - Started: [2014-02-11 21:44:19] - [ 6 days 00:29:45] [M]anage devices [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options Connected to stratum.mining.eligius.st diff 16 with stratum as user **** Block: ...d7f26e18 #286471 Diff:3.13G (22.40Ph/s) Started: [00:41:51] ST:13 F:5 NB:1069 AS:0 BW:[268/ 59 B/s] E:38.92 I: 180uBTC/hr BS:29.1M 7/11 | 26.87/27.17/26.82Gh/s | A:197873 R:711+179(.44%) HW:28066/.85% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NFY 0: | 2.48/ 2.48/ 2.46Gh/s | A: 18150 R: 47+ 18(.35%) HW: 1511/.50% NFY 1: | 2.46/ 2.46/ 2.43Gh/s | A: 17996 R: 68+ 10(.43%) HW: 2264/.76% NFY 2: | 2.52/ 2.52/ 2.48Gh/s | A: 18313 R: 60+ 18(.41%) HW: 2531/.83% NFY 3: | 5.07/ 5.10/ 5.03Gh/s | A: 36896 R:136+ 33(.45%) HW: 5282/.85% NFY 4: | 4.86/ 4.85/ 4.78Gh/s | A: 35337 R:116+ 29(.41%) HW: 6912/1.2% NFY 5: | 4.96/ 4.95/ 4.88Gh/s | A: 36138 R:145+ 36(.49%) HW: 5229/.87% NFY 6: | 4.81/ 4.81/ 4.75Gh/s | A: 35046 R:139+ 35(.49%) HW: 4338/.74% ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [2014-02-18 00:47:08] Accepted 0b10aae5 NFY 5b Diff 23/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:12] Accepted 092184ab NFY 6a Diff 28/16 [2014-02-18 00:47:13] Accepted 0029cd1d NFY 1 Diff 1.57k/16
for those wondering - there are 3xNF1 and 4xNF2 miners. I'll leave it up to you to figure it out which is which
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February 21, 2014, 05:53:57 PM |
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BitFury chips are due in today and then we will start manufacturing a couple hundred. We hope to have them out by mid March, but it's a new design. We don't expect any issues, but there usually are in bitcoin.
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segaklon
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February 22, 2014, 08:52:53 AM |
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Is there any way to update the firmware of these devices such as blocks Bi-fury, to reach some more Hasheo.
thanks
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vs3 (OP)
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February 22, 2014, 09:06:18 AM |
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Is there any way to update the firmware of these devices such as blocks Bi-fury, to reach some more Hasheo.
thanks
They don't have a firmware limiting the hashes. All you need is just the oscillator option in bfgminer/cgminer (a.k.a. osc6). Or if you want to do some serious overclocking you may also consider doing a pencil mod to increase the voltage too. Have in mind that in that case you will need to deal with a lot more heat, and obviously provide provide more power.
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segaklon
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February 22, 2014, 09:16:45 AM |
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Is there any way to update the firmware of these devices such as blocks Bi-fury, to reach some more Hasheo.
thanks
They don't have a firmware limiting the hashes. All you need is just the oscillator option in bfgminer/cgminer (a.k.a. osc6). Or if you want to do some serious overclocking you may also consider doing a pencil mod to increase the voltage too. Have in mind that in that case you will need to deal with a lot more heat, and obviously provide provide more power. Thanks for responding, I already knew oscillator but the Mod with the pencil do not know, can you give me more information on obtaining more power even endangering miners.
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vs3 (OP)
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February 22, 2014, 10:15:51 AM |
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Thanks for responding, I already knew oscillator but the Mod with the pencil do not know, can you give me more information on obtaining more power even endangering miners.
Sure - here you go: @vs3
can you elaborate on the req's to pencil mod the NFY similar to the BF1?
if the voltage setup circuits are anything similar: on BF1
rub graphite pencil across R15 until resistance measured across R15 and R16 is ~0.89Kohm
Yes - the procedure is almost identical - I'll repost what I wrote about that (on Marto74's thread) - let me know if that covers it or I missed anything: Can you give me instructions for pencil mod?
See this image: R2 and R3 determine the voltage: V = 0.8*(R2+R3)/R3 (and factory settings are R2=100 and R3=2.4k for about 0.833V) If you want to increase the voltage you can either increase R2 or decrease R3 (pencil mod decreases resistance). And to lower the voltage - you can lower R2 or increase R3. My 2 cents - start by first lowering the voltage. At least that's the safer option One clarification - on the early NF1s the voltage was 0.833V, while on the later ones it is 0.86V (R2 is 180 ohms) - it's a bit more stable there, and you also get a bit of a "factory overclock"
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vs3 (OP)
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March 06, 2014, 11:21:01 AM |
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Yup - I've ordered some samples - they're on the way. As soon as I get them I'll be testing them with the NF2 design.
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March 08, 2014, 05:42:55 PM |
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VS3 i like your design and cant wait for NF2 I`m ordered 32 chips so have some to playing with it:D How cgminer or bgminer detect NF1/NF2 ? are you planning build more powerfull miner with more chips?
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Taugeran
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March 08, 2014, 06:16:39 PM |
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VS3 i like your design and cant wait for NF2 I`m ordered 32 chips so have some to playing with it:D How cgminer or bgminer detect NF1/NF2 ? are you planning build more powerfull miner with more chips?
I'm working on a fork that's something like that. Making my baby public https://github.com/Taugeran/NFxShe's nowhere near as elegant as the NF1 or NF2 but that's what revisions are for. When I go home for lunch today I'll push a new commit that has some updates
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March 08, 2014, 07:50:00 PM |
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VS3 i like your design and cant wait for NF2 I`m ordered 32 chips so have some to playing with it:D How cgminer or bgminer detect NF1/NF2 ? are you planning build more powerfull miner with more chips?
I'm working on a fork that's something like that. Making my baby public https://github.com/Taugeran/NFxShe's nowhere near as elegant as the NF1 or NF2 but that's what revisions are for. When I go home for lunch today I'll push a new commit that has some updates I do not want high end pcb only working to study and in near future create my own modular miner (not for sale) Thanx i will study that when you submit updates:) Schematic is on kicad?
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vs3 (OP)
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March 08, 2014, 08:00:54 PM |
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VS3 i like your design and cant wait for NF2 I`m ordered 32 chips so have some to playing with it:D How cgminer or bgminer detect NF1/NF2 ? are you planning build more powerfull miner with more chips?
Hello bfgminer will detect both. cgminer as far as I know doesn't detect the NF2 (it detects only first chip so it will essentially behave as a NF1). I am also working on a USB miner with more chips but that's a bit questionable design as you'll somehow need to provide 5V at 2-3A to the device (which a standard USB port can't do). So, we'll see where that ends.
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