when the second november shipping knc???

[Paladin69]

I have answer from knc that the November
Orders
Will be ship from 15 of November and next

The ROI will be very poor @ 5k by the end of November.  All Nov Jupiter's should be refunded $2k IMO

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[Nemesis]

I have answer from knc that the November
Orders
Will be ship from 15 of November and next

The ROI will be very poor @ 5k by the end of November.  All Nov Jupiter's should be refunded $2k IMO

No... all bitcointalk members should donate .005 btc to me. That makes as much sense. After all the time i spend on this forums, i want my money for it.

[culexevilman]

Why not just hold BTC?

[Bitcoinorama]

Got to put my hand up and admit a few of the Nov batch are now known to have shipped apparently. Literally just found out after seeing a PM from Ixxi and following through by asking cust serv. They've checked themselves today after a customer rang up claiming he was sent a Saturn instead of a Jupiter and it then transpired he had a Nov del. The order queue has just been reviewed because of this.

From what i've just been told they were accidentally shipped by the manufacturing facility as they over-ran the cut off, due to manual refunds altering the order placements. There are a total of 15 in the wild. A mistake was made, but the rest of November orders are not shipping, and certainly weren't meant to have. It appears that due to closing refunds after the customer order file was sent to the manufacturing facility and courier(s), then the subsequent complaints raised about the cessation of refunds, some orders were not successfully manually removed and the overspill created subsequently ran into the first 15 Nov orders.

In any case I did not know before, I genuinely though he was trolling when I saw this last night, and Ixxi deserves an apology as there is no way November orders are meant to be leaving until production restarts in mid-Nov. Sorry man.

In answer to Jelin's orig q, production restarts mid-Nov on.

[CYPER]

Got to put my hand up and admit a few of the Nov batch are now known to have shipped apparently. Literally just found out after seeing a PM from Ixxi and following through by asking cust serv. They've checked themselves today after a customer rang up claiming he was sent a Saturn instead of a Jupiter and it then transpired he had a Nov del. The order queue has just been reviewed because of this.

From what i've just been told they were accidentally shipped by the manufacturing facility as they over-ran the cut off, due to manual refunds altering the order placements. There are a total of 15 in the wild. A mistake was made, but the rest of November orders are not shipping, and certainly weren't meant to have. It appears that due to closing refunds after the customer order file was sent to the manufacturing facility and courier(s), then the subsequent complaints raised about the cessation of refunds, some orders were not successfully manually removed and the overspill created subsequently ran into the first 15 Nov orders.

In any case I did not know before, I genuinely though he was trolling when I saw this last night, and Ixxi deserves an apology as there is no way November orders are meant to be leaving until production restarts in mid-Nov. Sorry man.

In answer to Jelin's orig q, production restarts mid-Nov on.

Awesome, just awesome...
Some people got their miners 2 weeks early, some other people got them 2 weeks late.
Professionalism at its best.

[HeRetiK]

Awesome, just awesome...
Some people got their miners 2 weeks early, some other people got them 2 weeks late.
Professionalism at its best.

At least those 2 weeks were, you know, actual 2 weeks.

[CYPER]

Awesome, just awesome...
Some people got their miners 2 weeks early, some other people got them 2 weeks late.
Professionalism at its best.

At least those 2 weeks were, you know, actual 2 weeks.

Am I expected to be profoundly grateful for only 2 weeks delay instead of 1 year?

[HeRetiK]

Am I expected to be profoundly grateful for only 2 weeks delay instead of 1 year?

No, just saying that KnCMiner has so far been more reliable than BFL, Avalon, and Hashfast - so basically everyone except for in-hand Asicminer devices which come with a premium. Bitfury/Metabank/100th is about en-par with KnCMiner, but underdelivered regarding hashrate including 100th being more than a month late with deploying and Metabank not being able to ship outside of russia. (nonetheless great engineering work from Bitfury's side, props to him!)

Also although 2 weeks may seem like forever in the Bitcoin world, it's still not that bad from a real world perspective.

[CYPER]

Am I expected to be profoundly grateful for only 2 weeks delay instead of 1 year?

Also although 2 weeks may seem like forever in the Bitcoin world, it's still not that bad from a real world perspective.

That sounds like: Luis Garavito is not that bad, compared to Hitler. A little hard analogy, but you get my point.

I've never had any dealings with BFL or Avalon and I find it strange that people always compare KNC with the worst in the industry and do no try to compare them with the best they could be.

[HeRetiK]

I've never had any dealings with BFL or Avalon and I find it strange that people always compare KNC with the worst in the industry and do no try to compare them with the best they could be.

Not the worst in the industry. The only in the industry.

If KnCMiner would have fully started shipping the November batch right now, I'd be grabbing my pitchfork as well. But 15 boxes seem like an honest mistake to me. Worst case that's 15 Jupiter's accounting for 8.25TH which at nowadays standard hardly make a difference. The guys receiving those orders are lucky bastards, but c'est la vie.

When did you receive your order, if I make ask (or are you still waiting)? First day or second day delivery?

[FeedbackLoop]

Am I expected to be profoundly grateful for only 2 weeks delay instead of 1 year?

Also although 2 weeks may seem like forever in the Bitcoin world, it's still not that bad from a real world perspective.

That sounds like: Luis Garavito is not that bad, compared to Hitler. A little hard analogy, but you get my point.

I've never had any dealings with BFL or Avalon and I find it strange that people always compare KNC with the worst in the industry and do no try to compare them with the best they could be.

+1, feels like the BFL/Avalon trauma will continue forever and insist on haunting even people who never bought into their bs.

...and +1 also on Heretik's post about the early shipping sounding like an honest mistake.

[CYPER]

I've never had any dealings with BFL or Avalon and I find it strange that people always compare KNC with the worst in the industry and do no try to compare them with the best they could be.

Not the worst in the industry. The only in the industry.

If KnCMiner would have fully started shipping the November batch right now, I'd be grabbing my pitchfork as well. But 15 boxes seem like an honest mistake to me. Worst case that's 15 Jupiter's accounting for 8.25TH which at nowadays standard hardly make a difference. The guys receiving those orders are lucky bastards, but c'est la vie.

When did you receive your order, if I make ask (or are you still waiting)? First day or second day delivery?

30.10.2013

[Bitcoinorama]

Cyper check your PMs, I have something for you.

[CYPER]

Cyper check your PMs, I have something for you.

I receive instant email notifications, so I know about new PM's pretty instantly 

[Xialla]

Awesome, just awesome...
Some people got their miners 2 weeks early, some other people got them 2 weeks late.
Professionalism at its best.

dude, I'm watching your posts for last couple of months and you have really bad luck. underperforming Jupiter, 2 weeks delay and now mighty Orama just admit, that KNC accidentally shipped 15 units earlier.) honestly, I admire you manners and patience..

KNC unprofessionalism is really endless..

[Bitcoinorama]

Awesome, just awesome...
Some people got their miners 2 weeks early, some other people got them 2 weeks late.
Professionalism at its best.

dude, I'm watching your posts for last couple of months and you have really bad luck. underperforming Jupiter, 2 weeks delay and now mighty Orama just admit, that KNC accidentally shipped 15 units earlier.) honestly, I admire you manners and patience..

KNC unprofessionalism is really endless..

Seriously??

[CYPER]

Awesome, just awesome...
Some people got their miners 2 weeks early, some other people got them 2 weeks late.
Professionalism at its best.

dude, I'm watching your posts for last couple of months and you have really bad luck. underperforming Jupiter, 2 weeks delay and now mighty Orama just admit, that KNC accidentally shipped 15 units earlier.) honestly, I admire you manners and patience..

KNC unprofessionalism is really endless..

And I always give credit when it's due. I so wish KNC achieved what they advertised they will , so I can just shower them with praise and kind words.
It would have been so much easier.
I even start to feel uncomfortable of all this moaning from my side.

[arlekyn13]

Awesome, just awesome...
Some people got their miners 2 weeks early, some other people got them 2 weeks late.
Professionalism at its best.

dude, I'm watching your posts for last couple of months and you have really bad luck. underperforming Jupiter, 2 weeks delay and now mighty Orama just admit, that KNC accidentally shipped 15 units earlier.) honestly, I admire you manners and patience..

KNC unprofessionalism is really endless..

I'm probably in his shoes as well, i received my 8 boards yesterday (oct order) and all 8 have the die#0 issue. Now I have to RMA so considering the new delay caused by RMA I can safely claim my Oct order (supposed to be delivered  before Oct 15th) will be actually delivered in Nov... after some Nov orders.
At this point there's nothing much we can do, we asked for some form of compensation for our miners being delivered past 15th of Oct, we received faulty boards instead
Imo, the best KNC could have done, was to "upgrade" late Oct orders to Nov orders price and give the hash power difference as a sign of good faith. Legally they don't have to do that so they chose... not to.

[Bitcoinorama]

Awesome, just awesome...
Some people got their miners 2 weeks early, some other people got them 2 weeks late.
Professionalism at its best.

dude, I'm watching your posts for last couple of months and you have really bad luck. underperforming Jupiter, 2 weeks delay and now mighty Orama just admit, that KNC accidentally shipped 15 units earlier.) honestly, I admire you manners and patience..

KNC unprofessionalism is really endless..

I'm probably in his shoes as well, i received my 8 boards yesterday (oct order) and all 8 have the die#0 issue. Now I have to RMA so considering the new delay caused by RMA I can safely claim my Oct order (supposed to be delivered  before Oct 15th) will be actually delivered in Nov... after some Nov orders.
At this point there's nothing much we can do, we asked for some form of compensation for our miners being delivered past 15th of Oct, we received faulty boards instead
Imo, the best KNC could have done, was to "upgrade" late Oct orders to Nov orders price and give the hash power difference as a sign of good faith. Legally they don't have to do that so they chose... not to.

Dude check your PM.

[HeRetiK]

TBH I'm looking forward to see how the other upcoming mining companies are going to fare. Despite their "unprofessionalism" the bitcoin mining industry seems to have finally grown up with KnCMiner and Bitfury delivering *almost* on time, so maybe we can finally leave the dark days of BFL and Avalon behind us. Not sure whether this will make Bitcoin mining more profitable though, just less of a gamble of whether you'll actually get your hardware, as sad as this sounds.