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April 22, 2019, 08:01:38 PM |
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For that first airdrop that you guys got for either sending a tiny bit of waves to that address or something else, can someone tell me what coins they got out of the airdrop and how much?
Example like you had 100 or 500 or 1000 waves. How much of that airdrop did you receive?
Jerry0 you should have a look at this page : "Everything you need to know about the Vostok airdrop" https://vostok.wavesplatform.com/ |
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April 22, 2019, 08:50:43 PM |
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Concerning the Vostok airdrop, it is better to hold WCT than Waves? I mean you get 1/1 Vostok with WCT as well, am I right?
From an economic point of view, it is indeed better to buy WCT than Waves, as WCT tokens are around 1/3 cheaper. Because there is the same amount of Vostok tokens for each WCT and Waves token. The thing is, you may not be selling your WCT tokens at the right time, and the value after the snapshot drops sharply. Thus, you can even make losses at the end of the line. So it's more a matter of timing whether it's a good deal or not. |
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jerry0
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April 23, 2019, 12:46:41 AM |
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Hey all. I recently just installed the new waves client. I previously used the old waves lite client. Now i want to qualify for that vostok token airdrop. I see there are 2 options for it. Download waveskeeper or send a tiny bit of waves to that waves address. This is where you download the waveskeeper right? https://wavesplatform.com/products-keeperThen once you have this go to this page. Then copy and paste your waves address. Then click on Auth with waves keeper? https://vostok.wavesplatform.com/Is it more safe to just send that tiny bit of waves instead as oppose to this or not? There is no risk to this right when downloading the waveskeeper since its from the waves site? |
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April 23, 2019, 02:12:26 AM
Last edit: April 23, 2019, 04:04:47 AM by Waves.support |
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Hey all. I recently just installed the new waves client. I previously used the old waves lite client. Now i want to qualify for that vostok token airdrop. I see there are 2 options for it. Download waveskeeper or send a tiny bit of waves to that waves address. This is where you download the waveskeeper right? https://wavesplatform.com/products-keeperThen once you have this go to this page. Then copy and paste your waves address. Then click on Auth with waves keeper? https://vostok.wavesplatform.com/Is it more safe to just send that tiny bit of waves instead as oppose to this or not? There is no risk to this right when downloading the waveskeeper since its from the waves site? Greetings. You can use any of these variants, auth by Keeper or send a 0.0001 WAVES to 3PBNiHBcp8rxiYkGVGNHEGZHEamb1aXeWV. These methods are equally safe. And you're right, you can find links to download the official Waves Keeper in this page: https://wavesplatform.com/products-keeperBest regards, Waves Community Manager |
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April 23, 2019, 04:46:00 AM |
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Hi thanks. But doesn't downloading the waves keeper make it a bit unsafe though since its with chrome and thus its like another wallet with it so to speak?
The sending waves seem much less risky.
Like if have you have some browser issue, that waves keeper is still fine?
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April 23, 2019, 05:08:35 AM |
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Hi thanks. But doesn't downloading the waves keeper make it a bit unsafe though since its with chrome and thus its like another wallet with it so to speak?
The sending waves seem much less risky.
Like if have you have some browser issue, that waves keeper is still fine?
Hi again. It's safe because all secret keys from Waves Keeper stored locally on your computer. Best regards, Waves Community Manager |
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April 23, 2019, 05:50:17 PM |
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We’ve just released a new update for Waves Explorer 2.5!
Users are now able to view decompiled scripts for smart assets and accounts.
Try it here: https://wavesexplorer.com/ |
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April 23, 2019, 09:19:55 PM |
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Waves name appeared for few seconds on movie Crypto (00:48:27)   |
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Anarchy101
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April 24, 2019, 05:01:57 AM |
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Concerning the Vostok airdrop, it is better to hold WCT than Waves? I mean you get 1/1 Vostok with WCT as well, am I right?
Doesn't matter which token you hold WCT or WAVES both of those will give us a 1:1 airdrop ratio. So holding WCT is better right now because the price is much cheaper than waves. |
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Dildo Shwaggins
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April 24, 2019, 09:42:14 AM |
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Concerning the Vostok airdrop, it is better to hold WCT than Waves? I mean you get 1/1 Vostok with WCT as well, am I right?
Doesn't matter which token you hold WCT or WAVES both of those will give us a 1:1 airdrop ratio. So holding WCT is better right now because the price is much cheaper than waves. I'm getting 4times more VST after trading WCT/Waves. I don't mind the price much as I am holding waves like forever. Still price on this pair seems to be moving up, so it was a good trade until now as I'm getting more Vst plus waves balance. |
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April 24, 2019, 02:30:55 PM |
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4500 btc/0.000415 waves or 5000/0.00038 to hit $1.85 within 30 days.
Unless the wedge resolves this week towards $3.6-4
Removing token tickers after june 15th is a big mistake by waves team and they should make a secondary index with lower listing fee and kyc requirements for all tokens rather than removing their tickers. The current bettertoken review requirements are harder to appease than a Nasdq IPO.
This will greatly lower Waves use case as is. I was looking to invest a few thousand dollars more during late spring into Marquise $Museum liquidity but will reconsider based on this information.
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April 24, 2019, 02:53:45 PM |
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What do you think about Binance Dex? I know it's not a real DEX, but the market gives a different answer. Do you think, it will make Waves DEX useless or at least less interesting?
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April 24, 2019, 03:14:49 PM |
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Everything Binance is China controlled. Waves is the most promising decentralization project so it will be crippled after june 15 and believe me that is only the beginning in the name of regulation that no one asked for.
Waves is basically a way to communicate unrestricted through token message transfers with blockchain immutability that is censorship resistant. It consists of thousands of altcoins that are (were) impossible to control and create their own fiat independent economic systems. The weakest point in this promising invention is the team and leader behind it who are easy to be made to comply to the agenda, and they are the attack vector to compromise this platform and it is very successful at value erosion so far. The two first sentences in this paragraph is an establishment definition of Money Laundering and Terrorism sponsoring because it means free speech and free economy, both are intolerable by world powers.
Waves was never about privacy but the way it is constructed makes it too risky to leave unchecked, it begins with qualifying for token indexing on the dex because that is obviously something that the team is centrally controlling, even if they should not be able to do so on a truly decentralized platform where community voting decides listing approval of new tokens.
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April 24, 2019, 04:21:52 PM |
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We are happy to announce that Waves is live on Delta Direct! All the latest Waves updates will now be directly available on your Delta app! Make sure to enable notifications for our Direct updates so you never miss out.
Get the Delta app here: https://delta.app/en/download! |
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April 24, 2019, 06:14:57 PM
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Waves name appeared for few seconds on movie Crypto (00:48:27) I read about the movie featuring Kurt Russell and that Waves plays a short role in it. Is the film already available as a stream or DVD or have you watched it in the cinema? |
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April 24, 2019, 07:22:52 PM |
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4500 btc/0.000415 waves or 5000/0.00038 to hit $1.85 within 30 days.
Unless the wedge resolves this week towards $3.6-4
Removing token tickers after june 15th is a big mistake by waves team and they should make a secondary index with lower listing fee and kyc requirements for all tokens rather than removing their tickers. The current bettertoken review requirements are harder to appease than a Nasdq IPO.
This will greatly lower Waves use case as is. I was looking to invest a few thousand dollars more during late spring into Marquise $Museum liquidity but will reconsider based on this information.
where do you find information on waves tickers being removed? Whats up with that? |
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April 24, 2019, 08:13:44 PM |
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4500 btc/0.000415 waves or 5000/0.00038 to hit $1.85 within 30 days.
Unless the wedge resolves this week towards $3.6-4
Removing token tickers after june 15th is a big mistake by waves team and they should make a secondary index with lower listing fee and kyc requirements for all tokens rather than removing their tickers. The current bettertoken review requirements are harder to appease than a Nasdq IPO.
This will greatly lower Waves use case as is. I was looking to invest a few thousand dollars more during late spring into Marquise $Museum liquidity but will reconsider based on this information.
where to read more details about this? Is it publicly available, or do you just have an inside, because planned to use Waves blockchain? |
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April 24, 2019, 09:45:41 PM |
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4500 btc/0.000415 waves or 5000/0.00038 to hit $1.85 within 30 days.
Unless the wedge resolves this week towards $3.6-4
Removing token tickers after june 15th is a big mistake by waves team and they should make a secondary index with lower listing fee and kyc requirements for all tokens rather than removing their tickers. The current bettertoken review requirements are harder to appease than a Nasdq IPO.
This will greatly lower Waves use case as is. I was looking to invest a few thousand dollars more during late spring into Marquise $Museum liquidity but will reconsider based on this information.
where do you find information on waves tickers being removed? Whats up with that? Hello Midas111! You can find detailed information regarding verification process in this article. - https://blog.wavesplatform.com/decentralised-token-verification-our-vision-for-the-future-and-a-fix-for-the-present-fefd5531b33dSincerely, Waves Community Manager |
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April 24, 2019, 11:01:20 PM
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TSA is suitable for enterprise level or fortune 500 companies who wish to migrate their business to blockchain, so of course there is multi trillion dollar value potential in this respect, but it is mostly from migrated and proprietary business, for waves the value extraction will be enabled if it becomes Nasdaq 2.0 with trading and transfer fees determined in waves. What we will get then is a crypto clone of the present economic model with the same players but now on blockchain instead with all the censorship enabling capabilities that this technology brings, so the ideology of Satoshi will then have been fully subverted.
TSA requires correspondence with financial regulators in issuant jurisdictions = surrending all control over the tokens with possibly criminal charges for any wrong doing or non compliance. It also requires banking collaboration which means that banks can decide on a whim to freeze assets or shut down token owners bank accounts if they are not satisfactory. All other risk compliance and KYC/AML of Bettertokens is a very efficient way of squeezing any free market value out of waves that small business owners might otherwise have contributed by buying into waves and providing market making liquidity to their branded coins.
WAVES is trying to structure its platform in preparation for enterprise onramping but at the same time this regulatory compliance will alienate the original decentralized community.
From a business and money making perspective, this community engages in speculative behaviour and there is no traditional consumer product demand beyond tokens and novel coins it seems after having provided market making for Marquise $Museum for more than 1 year.
It remains to be seen if Waves can attract the big players to their innovative platform and what the sacrifice then will be in terms of decentralization and free market economy.
All of the above is highly speculative at this point in time and if successful the platform will become a household name and there will be high valuation but also high competition from other platforms like Ethereum and Stellar.
The UI must be completely revamped alongside this brand rediscovery and ticker pairing should be limited to btc waves and usd because it's a mess right now and the text is too small.
Waves is already planning to have a decentralized review process for tokens and these should then be indexed on a sister platform for small business owners similar to Russell 2000 or Small cap on Nasdaq without the rigorous TSA requirements.
It is possible for Waves to permit both types of economic and philosophical paradigms of this new frontier mixed with old business without alienating the original ICO participants but short term it might suffer in market cap and ranking simply because of the high standards of operation it is attempting to satisfy.
Dollar adjusted market cap with lower barrier to entry for small business indexing while minimizing spam tokens can easily be $70 to $200 within 1 year if the decentralized and censorship resistance model is retained. What we have then is an early version of something similar to ebay combined with twitter.
If the focus instead is on enterprise solutions, as I believe it is for Vostok and was not intended for Waves, then Waves value proposition can certainly stagnate indefinitely at less then $1. So until this speculative analysis is confirmed by actual enterprise onramping, then the value of the platform after june 15 is not much once tickers are removed on the dex for unverified tokens because that is a significant branding utility aspect of the dex. I believe that the team is moving towards enterprise and government solutions through Vostok because the performance of token generation and demand on WAVES has been lacking for small investors and small business so far.
June 15 ticker removal has a very easy to solution to implement a tiered indexation of tokens that opens a spectrum between 1 waves token issuance fee and TSA Nasdaq level qualifications and the 1k fee. Vetting can be community guided or by fulfilling tiered KYC similar to how centralized crypto exchanges operate. The dex can be catalogued with several color coded pages from tier 1 to 5 that users can browse instead of the singular main page that we have now and that is a mess because of multi pairings. Optionally, tokens themselves can be color coded green/yellow/blue/black depending on tier.
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