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November 10, 2013, 12:54:33 AM |
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What version of mspaint do you use?
I use Windows 95 for professional graphics design, and I'm having trouble making my images look as blurry as yours.
lol
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Altitude (OP)
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November 10, 2013, 01:37:57 AM |
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Unfortunately, that means you lied to the entire forum and took it upon yourself to con the forum. A logo or banner is a serious issue as its not just throwing junk at more junk. There are people who trust a Graphic Designer to know what they are doing as a good banner will increase revenue and a bad banner can harm a reputation. I was being polite before. I didnt lie. I havent had projects done for customers, but i have done small jobs for friends and family. I am only 15 years old, and just wanted to be discovered. instead its just a giant mess.
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b!z
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November 10, 2013, 06:53:53 AM |
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I didnt lie. I havent had projects done for customers, but i have done small jobs for friends and family. I am only 15 years old, and just wanted to be discovered. instead its just a giant mess.
Don't worry, I'm here to help you. I made a nice logo for your service: It features Windows 8 styled minimalist Metro design, and modern typography.
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Altitude (OP)
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November 10, 2013, 07:21:31 PM |
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I didnt lie. I havent had projects done for customers, but i have done small jobs for friends and family. I am only 15 years old, and just wanted to be discovered. instead its just a giant mess.
Don't worry, I'm here to help you. I made a nice logo for your service: It features Windows 8 styled minimalist Metro design, and modern typography. It looks pretty cool, but the contrast with the green letters on the green background is a little hard to read. Thank you. Could you give me any tips on how to be better at this?
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Altitude (OP)
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November 10, 2013, 07:54:23 PM |
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okay. I am now goign to build free logos for anyone who wants them, and in return could you guys give me some feedback so i can get better? Thanks!
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Mike Christ
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November 10, 2013, 08:03:15 PM |
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This offer will always be open: build a logo that says "Mike's Art Shop" If it's good, I'll use it, and give a link back to your thread. If not, I'll explain why it's no good and you can try again. You should be following all the tutorials you can find so you can improve; once you create something to my standards, consider yourself good enough for paid service. Send me a PM whenever you're ready. Good luck
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Altitude (OP)
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November 11, 2013, 12:39:48 AM |
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Here is version one:
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rimbit
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November 11, 2013, 12:49:57 AM |
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Obviously didnt take anyones advice and look at tutorials. @Altitude --- Try cropping your images and respecting some of the people on this forum
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Mike Christ
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November 11, 2013, 01:07:48 AM |
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Here is version one: There are multiple problems with this design; for one, and this is the biggest problem, it's not attractive; when people see a design, it must draw them into it and make them want to understand the product in question more. There are many ways to attract a person; one way is through beauty. So what is beauty? There is beauty in symmetry; I can find no symmetry in this design, the words "art shop" are small and misaligned with "Mike's", it's not uniform. The image size itself is also a problem; the whole logo is shifted away from any identifiable center, not to mention all the blank space where the logo doesn't inhabit. There is beauty in uniformity; neither the top half of the logo or the bottom half of the logo agree; one wants to be outspoken and chaotic, the other wants to refined and pleasant. However, there is also beauty in compliment; a pairing which opposes each other can often be beautiful, for example, if the bottom half wanted to be the polar opposite of the top half, or perhaps in opposing colors. These two do not fit well together. There is beauty in organization; neither the top half or the bottom half want to agree on where they should be placed, and even if they aren't uniform, they should follow some logical reasoning for why they are placed where they are, which I cannot see in this design. Sometimes designs follow a pattern of shape, or line; sometimes they want to be symbolic. There's no organization being expressed in this design. The next problem, which will vary from person to person, is the theme; I tend to work with art that's often quirky and dark, but this logo doesn't bring such qualities out; I would've liked something perhaps in a red/black pattern, maybe a tinge of blue, something with a limited pallet or some kind of pattern that way, in a more refined, square, and "individualistic" typeset; the fonts given here do not say "This is Mike", they seem to say, "This is Altitude"; when creating a design for a person, you must let go of your own image and succumb to the image your client is attempting to portray. In this case, I can't say this is anywhere close to how my artwork is; I'm seeking something more elegant, but odd; something smooth but unusual; something which might be described as "bohemian". My advice on where to go from here is to scrap this version entirely, take out a pencil and paper (or just type it somewhere), brainstorm on what you believe my intentions are for this logo and see if you can't come to a conclusion as to how this logo should turn out; give your sense of intuition a workout. Look up examples on the web for various designs, especially ones which catch your eye; remember, if you don't like what you're making, there's not a lot of hope anyone else will. You must be your own worst critic before you can ever hope to create something that will appeal to others. I'll be waiting for your next attempt Make sure you refer to those tutorials and try your hand at drawing; it'll help, believe me.
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Altitude (OP)
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November 11, 2013, 01:50:48 AM |
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Well, here goes version 2. I did watch most of those tutorials, the only problem is that they are for photoshop and illustrator, and I use gimp. Those tutorials use tools that are found in photoshop and illustrator, but are not included in gimp, so there is no way to follow them if i cant find the proper tools in gimp for what the tutorials require.
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ninjatflex
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November 11, 2013, 01:55:40 AM |
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Get a copy of Photoshop and Illustrator. Legit or otherwise (torrents), if you're serious about Graphic Design you'll need to get them.
lllustrator especially is vector based and should be your first choice for designing a logo. Logo's should be vectored graphics not rastered for infinite scaling without loss of image quality. You should probably abandon gradients in your logo's as well as they display badly if saved in a shitty format (.gif) and has very limited printing options (can't be silkscreened/screenprinted, can't be etched, can't be stitched, foil-blocked, letterpressed, etc). Limits its versatility which should be one of the top goals for a logo. How the image displays at small sizes is also very important.
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Altitude (OP)
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November 11, 2013, 01:59:40 AM |
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sorry. i forgot to upload the logo.
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ninjatflex
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November 11, 2013, 02:08:54 AM |
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I'd stack the words rather than set them like that, and focus on the shape of the logo rather than the texture in order to convey an 'Art shop', which seems to be the angle you're going for.
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Altitude (OP)
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November 11, 2013, 02:39:44 AM |
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could you explain what you mean by stack them?
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ninjatflex
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November 11, 2013, 02:42:58 AM |
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Mike's Art Shop
or
Mike's Art Shop
as opposed to
Mike's Art Shop
'Stack' probably wasn't the best way to describe it. You'd want to centrally align the words as well rather than having them aligned left.
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rimbit
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November 11, 2013, 04:33:49 AM Last edit: November 11, 2013, 04:47:21 AM by rimbit |
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sorry. i forgot to upload the logo. Understand what Mikes Art shop is.... One thing it is not is a rusty old steel mill that is cracked and dead. I hope a mod comes in and removes this from services... It belongs in another forum... Perhaps some graphics website, but definitely not here... Take your puppet bitcoinspot.nl with you You really undermine people that have worked hard to develop their skills. You have none and I gave you the benefit of the doubt before... Never again (prove me wrong)
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Altitude (OP)
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November 11, 2013, 01:11:07 PM |
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It is not rusty. Actually, If you look closely at the deisgn, it uses a lava texture, and contains the reds and blacks. It also has a gothic or bohemian, just like mike wanted.
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rimbit
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November 11, 2013, 01:56:13 PM Last edit: November 11, 2013, 02:07:23 PM by rimbit |
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Here is a wallpaper i did for myself, which I submitted to a steampunk website many years ago. The clock is from a photo of an old train station tower clock in some baltic country. I couldnt find a good leather background, so I made it from scratch using floral swirls and cracks (you can see them if you look close enough) First I did the center logo which took 2 days to get it right, then I experimented with the BG and that took a few hours before I was satisfied with it. I wanted the centre peice to look pushed into the leather, so I did some research to see what that would look like, then I created the effect. The logo has been used in a steam punk play as a backdrop and it was also used as the pamphlet. Really proud of that I also owned www.customsteampunk.com (long gone now) @Altitude... I doubt you spend more than 5 minutes on your work...
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Altitude (OP)
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November 11, 2013, 02:32:15 PM |
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I actually spent 2 hours on version 1 yesterday, then again i was using gimp. I have photoshop now, so I will have access to more powerful tools.
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