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November 05, 2013, 03:33:03 PM
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this is such an obvios ponzi why are people still discussing this

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November 05, 2013, 04:17:22 PM
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It's not a good idea to earn people's trust by gambling with their coins... Especially if you aren't transparent enough about what you're doing.
I do believe you can make profits by martingaling with a big enough bankroll. But it can't work in the very long term. I'm not saying you're a scammer, all i'm saying is that it's not a good idea to earn people's trust THIS way. Even if you are completely honest, and make a profit, and pay back any losses whenever you mess things up.
The process of gaining trust is going to take a VERY long time using this method.
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November 05, 2013, 08:04:24 PM
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This is clearly a scam.

He admits there is some risk involved, but that he has the coins to cover any loss.

So he could borrow my coins, add 50% to them, keep 25% and give me 25%.
Or he could use the coins he already has in reserve to cover any loss, add 50% to them and keep the 50%.

Why would he chose to keep 25% when he could keep 50% with no extra risk?

The only reason I can think of is that he plans to keep 100% eventually - ie. run off with 'investments' once he has built enough trust.

We've seen this scam many times in the past - it's just the old "I'll double any amount" scam all over again.

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November 05, 2013, 08:42:29 PM
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Even if I did get more than my 25% cut it would make no difference to you and your investment at all so your theory is stupid.

Is that the best you can do?

I don't know if you're familiar with how debate usually works, but it's traditional to counter the points people make rather than just say "your theory is stupid".

I'll try to make it simple for you:

If you try to gain 50% on an amount, you will either succeed or fail.

If you fail, it doesn't matter whether you were using your own coins or someone elses - you're out the number of coins you started with.

If you succeed, and you're playing with your own coins, you're up 50%.
If you succeed, and you're playing with someone else's coins, you're up 25%.

So the only difference between using your own coins and someone else's is how much you win when you win.

Why chose to keep 25% when you could keep 50%?

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November 05, 2013, 08:55:17 PM
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This is clearly a scam.

He admits there is some risk involved, but that he has the coins to cover any loss.

So he could borrow my coins, add 50% to them, keep 25% and give me 25%.
Or he could use the coins he already has in reserve to cover any loss, add 50% to them and keep the 50%.

Why would he chose to keep 25% when he could keep 50% with no extra risk?

The only reason I can think of is that he plans to keep 100% eventually - ie. run off with 'investments' once he has built enough trust.

We've seen this scam many times in the past - it's just the old "I'll double any amount" scam all over again.
As I stated to Lightlord earlier, you cannot simply just keep on going and going. The more you do it on one investment the riskier it gets.
Even if I did get more than my 25% cut it would make no difference to you and your investment at all so your theory is stupid.

All current investments will be looked after tonight Australian time.
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this is why you should do your math homework.
>"the more you do it on one investment the riskier it gets"
if you flip a coin and it lands heads 5 times in a row, the probability of it landing heads one more time i still 50%... How would it get less risky if you start gambling with a different investment? How is the money any different?
Also, his "theory" was that you'd run off with the money whenever someone invests a big amount of money. If you think that theory is stupid than you clearly ARE a scammer... How can you not understand our sceptiscism?

Seriously, you need to find another way to earn people's trust...
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November 05, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
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So you do admit you can't beat the house, but you just want to earn people's trust by risking their money on a gambling website we all have access to? (and by paying for any loss with your backup money)
Again, even if you are completely honest and not a scammer you aren't going to earn people's trust... It just doesn't work that way.

Also, please don't insult the people here on this forum.
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November 05, 2013, 09:42:46 PM
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Wait... You seriously think you can beat the house edge?

Three possibilities remain:
- you're a lucky martingaler who can't do basic math and are therefor unaware of the fact that you can't reduce the house edge to <0%
- you cracked the RNG
- you're a scammer
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November 05, 2013, 09:51:38 PM
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Vouch for him. Invested 0.01 and returned 0.0115 -0.0001 transaction fee.

You are advertising a ponzi for 0.0015 BTC, you are as bad as the OP scammer.

Instead of vouching and helping the scammer for 0.0015 BTC sell all your OWN stuff and buy BTC and then send all of YOUR BTC to this scammer!
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November 05, 2013, 09:55:52 PM
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So as it stands, I vouch for this service up to now...but any discrepancies and/or losses in the future can not be attributed to my vouch.

Of course all the future losses will be your fault too! Send all your BTC to the scammer, bankrupt the first casino and then vouch. Without doing this you are scammer too.
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November 05, 2013, 10:10:24 PM
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No such thing.


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November 05, 2013, 11:04:46 PM
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Well , why don't we try just investing small amounts in him.
Maybe we can catch him red-handed and force him to quit , before we go bankrupt Tongue

Trusting people without history, and without reputation with anything you want to call an "investment" is about as far from actual investment as you can come.

jambola2 realises that he is talking to BingoBoingo. He goes into coinchat talking mode.

I am willing to invest 0.03 BTC.
I will send it to you , and will expect 0.0375 within 48 hours.

Either - 7.5 mbtc profit , or one less scammer on the forums ( win - win )
Tell me your bitcoin address now.

This is a rather poor proposal. Why do you want to enable this scammer so badly.

If they pay you back and then scam later, you will kind of both look like scammers. This is a poor value proposition for you. See below.

So as it stands, I vouch for this service up to now...but any discrepancies and/or losses in the future can not be attributed to my vouch.

Of course all the future losses will be your fault too! Send all your BTC to the scammer, bankrupt the first casino and then vouch. Without doing this you are scammer too.

Please read about why you shouldn't feed the scammers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.0


The rest of this thread may also be informative: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236971.msg2510149#msg2510149

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November 06, 2013, 02:05:39 AM
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Vouch #2
Received a payment from TheGambler.
Sent: https://blockchain.info/tx/5d00ceda67ba11ecbd4b3718f5db908fafd9fe69176f72458f1046ac1dd31155
Received: https://blockchain.info/tx/17e1f7e648b6e665c338a77333f541458a521b0d74af23d2de72990c39b2a5b0

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November 06, 2013, 02:13:11 AM
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Well , why don't we try just investing small amounts in him.
Maybe we can catch him red-handed and force him to quit , before we go bankrupt Tongue

Trusting people without history, and without reputation with anything you want to call an "investment" is about as far from actual investment as you can come.

jambola2 realises that he is talking to BingoBoingo. He goes into coinchat talking mode.

I am willing to invest 0.03 BTC.
I will send it to you , and will expect 0.0375 within 48 hours.

Either - 7.5 mbtc profit , or one less scammer on the forums ( win - win )
Tell me your bitcoin address now.
He has neither replied to or confirmed my post in any hours.
MrGambler , have you already run away with my BTC ?

I was asleep. You have also not sent me a cent.
Please provide the blockchain address of the transaction or you are lying
Thank you.

See the above post , it has the blockchain. Reposting here too ---> https://blockchain.info/tx/129222b0397a77a54a28bc6c889c79cc337b0dc863afc95d8a113d07ae9f2b4a

Around 11 hours have passed.

He claims to have not received my transaction , after 86 confirmations and 11 hours.

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November 06, 2013, 02:19:19 AM
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Vouch for him. Invested 0.01 and returned 0.0115 -0.0001 transaction fee.

You are advertising a ponzi for 0.0015 BTC, you are as bad as the OP scammer.

Instead of vouching and helping the scammer for 0.0015 BTC sell all your OWN stuff and buy BTC and then send all of YOUR BTC to this scammer!
Please use your own brain. If you do not trust him, please ignore my vouch. It is only a proof that the OP had sent me a payment that he promised, I am only stating the facts. Also, do you have any proof that OP is a scammer?

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November 06, 2013, 02:21:40 AM
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Well, your one purpose account I imagine will be discarded soon.

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November 06, 2013, 02:23:09 AM
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Well , why don't we try just investing small amounts in him.
Maybe we can catch him red-handed and force him to quit , before we go bankrupt Tongue

Trusting people without history, and without reputation with anything you want to call an "investment" is about as far from actual investment as you can come.

jambola2 realises that he is talking to BingoBoingo. He goes into coinchat talking mode.

I am willing to invest 0.03 BTC.
I will send it to you , and will expect 0.0375 within 48 hours.

Either - 7.5 mbtc profit , or one less scammer on the forums ( win - win )
Tell me your bitcoin address now.
He has neither replied to or confirmed my post in any hours.
MrGambler , have you already run away with my BTC ?

I was asleep. You have also not sent me a cent.
Please provide the blockchain address of the transaction or you are lying
Thank you.

See the above post , it has the blockchain. Reposting here too ---> https://blockchain.info/tx/129222b0397a77a54a28bc6c889c79cc337b0dc863afc95d8a113d07ae9f2b4a

Around 11 hours have passed.

He claims to have not received my transaction , after 86 confirmations and 11 hours.
FYI, did you notice that the thread clearly stated that the address for the coins to go is 1FHPSCjsV6tt3EZbv22qN72esFWhJzDyL6 ? Just saying

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November 06, 2013, 02:24:36 AM
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Aww dammit
Well , sorry for sending the coins to the profile address instead  Undecided

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November 06, 2013, 02:27:42 AM
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TheGambler is online, but not talking, it seems someone else is atm.
A sock puppet of TheGambler user.



Also the similarities. Similar dates of signing up within a few weeks, etc.




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November 06, 2013, 02:30:17 AM
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TheGambler is online, but not talking, it seems someone else is atm.
A sock puppet of TheGambler user.


Seems legit but I am not a Alt of him, anyway, whats wrong with being online  Huh Also, tbh, tradefortness offers quite a good price for sigs, no point in that, loads of people sign up for that.

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Seems legit but I am not a Alt of him, anyway, whats wrong with being online  Huh Also, tbh, tradefortness offers quite a good price for sigs, no point in that, loads of people sign up for that.

I am just pointing it out, its odd your helping, vouching, supporting, saying nothing shows OP is a scammer.
Its just odd. Also TheGambler, is online, but staying quiet. When in the past he was immidate to jump and answer.

He is using another strategy, by conjuring up a bunch of fake accounts, doing transactions to look legit.

And then hook some fish, I nick name this "Hook the fish" Scam.



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