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July 08, 2018, 04:12:28 PM
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It is exactly what you are asking dude.

And it only solidifies suspicions.

I advise you to rephrase your topic appropriately:

paying to impersonate early BTC adopters

and reap the red tags accordingly.

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July 08, 2018, 04:18:29 PM
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Just because they have a red tag for trying to buy an account months ago does't mean they're trying to pull some scam by buying an early address. It's pretty weird but honestly how is an old address going to convince anybody of anything. You could probably mine addresses for a day and hit an old address that was used.
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July 08, 2018, 04:22:01 PM
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Just because they have a red tag for trying to buy an account months ago does't mean they're trying to pull some scam by buying an early address. It's pretty weird but honestly how is an old address going to convince anybody of anything. You could probably mine addresses for a day and hit an old address that was used.

Well you can read the above example about convincing he is an old investor, that old BTC address where he can do transactions can convince anyone. But forget about it, if you think that is a lot weird than this offer itself.

This sounds very strange which is why people here are asking WHY?
There are tons of users here who has abandoned BTC accounts with nothing on it, it may be worthless but a strange offer like this will back away sellers. Why can't you just use the new BTC address, you can hire someone here to create one for you if you like and you may even just pay a $1. Or you can do it yourself for FREE.

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July 08, 2018, 04:31:57 PM
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Just because they have a red tag for trying to buy an account months ago does't mean they're trying to pull some scam by buying an early address. It's pretty weird but honestly how is an old address going to convince anybody of anything. You could probably mine addresses for a day and hit an old address that was used.

Well, the level of knowledge bitcoin users have varies wildly.

My theory is that OP wants an early address that is not gonna show up in search results so that a potential victim won't be able to easily know that anyone could impersonate the address.

If someone convinced me that they controlled a private key from 2013 or before, I wouldn't think twice about them saying they possess lots of BTC from cheap prices, even if the address does not contain those coins.

Think of the typical (but surprisingly effective) nigerian prince scam.

He has lots of BTC, but for some reason needs you to help him access them or maybe invest for him, and its just pennies for him since he is a millionaire in my mind.

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July 08, 2018, 04:33:10 PM
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To be honest, even using it to convince somebody of something isn't a big scam if there is no victim. Maybe they just need it for credibility so somebody will take them seriously with some project they can perform. Kind of like people lying on a resume. Sure it's dishonest, but as long as they can fulfill the job it is victim-less.

Somebody may want to know why they're using it before selling them an address, that's fine. But to flame this guy for wanting to have an old address to look like an early adopter when there's no proof of scamming seems immature.

It's all just speculation so stop flaming the guy.
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July 08, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
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To be honest, even using it to convince somebody of something isn't a big scam if there is no victim. Maybe they just need it for credibility so somebody will take them seriously with some project they can perform. Kind of like people lying on a resume. Sure it's dishonest, but as long as they can fulfill the job it is victim-less.

Somebody may want to know why they're using it before selling them an address, that's fine. But to flame this guy for wanting to have an old address to look like an early adopter when there's no proof of scamming seems immature.

You mean just like it went down with Atriz?

A signature campaign turned red as blood, after it was disclosed that raised funds mentioned heavily in marketing, was in fact just made up numbers.

I respect that you are voicing your opinion, but i'd definitely argue that the general opinion here is different from yours.


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July 08, 2018, 04:45:52 PM
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Maybe they just need it for credibility so somebody will take them seriously with some project they can perform. Kind of like people lying on a resume. Sure it's dishonest, but as long as they can fulfill the job it is victim-less.

+1 for using the brain, unlike few others here

This way, but not exactly. Overall assumption is correct.
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July 08, 2018, 05:01:07 PM
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To be honest, even using it to convince somebody of something isn't a big scam if there is no victim. Maybe they just need it for credibility so somebody will take them seriously with some project they can perform. Kind of like people lying on a resume. Sure it's dishonest, but as long as they can fulfill the job it is victim-less.

Somebody may want to know why they're using it before selling them an address, that's fine. But to flame this guy for wanting to have an old address to look like an early adopter when there's no proof of scamming seems immature.

You mean just like it went down with Atriz?

A signature campaign turned red as blood, after it was disclosed that raised funds mentioned heavily in marketing, was in fact just made up numbers.

I respect that you are voicing your opinion, but i'd definitely argue that the general opinion here is different from yours.


General opinion of what? That it isn't proved that he's scamming? The example you cherry picked is completely irrelevant as we're talking about facts vs fiction. Wire fraud vs some guy who wants to look oldschool.

I respect that you think you know everything and that your assumptions are correct, but I'd definitely argue that the general opinion here is that you have absolutely no idea what he wants to do by proving he is oldschool into Bitcoin.
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July 08, 2018, 06:55:17 PM
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General opinion of what?

That it is a serious indicator of fraud, if a business owner lies/presents "alternative" facts.

The example you cherry picked is completely irrelevant as we're talking about facts vs fiction. Wire fraud vs some guy who wants to look oldschool.

"cherry picked" makes it sound like i chose this case out of several, for its specific benefits to my argument. That is untrue, it is in fact the only such case i know of. Nonetheless, the sentiment was clear.

I did not know of any wire fraud though, i haven't bothered studying the incident.

You mentioning wire fraud, but omitting document forgery/impersonation is something i don't get.

I respect that you think you know everything and that your assumptions are correct, but I'd definitely argue that the general opinion here is that you have absolutely no idea what he wants to do by proving he is oldschool into Bitcoin.

Now who is flaming?  Kiss

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Just remembered the arbitao signature campaign was stopped by the manager after users pointed out that old images (big ben not in scaffold) was presented as if they were taken in a period where big ben was scaffolded.


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July 08, 2018, 08:34:47 PM
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You mentioning wire fraud, but omitting document forgery/impersonation is something i don't get.


It's so funny you think that is what OP is doing. You can google 'document forgery' easily and see what it means, so why would you post something so ignorant?

Wire fraud is a really general term so I guess I'm a little confused how you don't know what that means. Wait why are you arguing with me about something you don't understand?

Impersonation is only illegal if you are impersonating law enforcement. That being said it may lead to committing other crimes, but that's the point I've been making consistently. It MAY but nobody KNOWS, so don't act like he's a scammer just for wanting to buy an old address and look like he was into Bitcoin early.
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July 09, 2018, 11:07:56 AM
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You mentioning wire fraud, but omitting document forgery/impersonation is something i don't get.


It's so funny you think that is what OP is doing. You can google 'document forgery' easily and see what it means, so why would you post something so ignorant?

Wire fraud is a really general term so I guess I'm a little confused how you don't know what that means. Wait why are you arguing with me about something you don't understand?

Impersonation is only illegal if you are impersonating law enforcement. That being said it may lead to committing other crimes, but that's the point I've been making consistently. It MAY but nobody KNOWS, so don't act like he's a scammer just for wanting to buy an old address and look like he was into Bitcoin early.
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July 09, 2018, 11:55:09 PM
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They havve to be earlier than 04.2013. So like 2013,2012,2011 is fine.
Escrow for this? You kidding?
Empty address with good history is max $50.
I send cash in front first, so if you have any old address with history just contact me. 0% risk.

At least how many transactions need to be in the address? or total of bitcoin amount transacted?
what defines as good history for this case? would you accept compromised addresses? Cheesy
there are some old address-privkey pairs spread all over the forum and internet,
I'll sell you these if you haven't found them yourself Tongue

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July 10, 2018, 08:29:30 PM
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They havve to be earlier than 04.2013. So like 2013,2012,2011 is fine.
Escrow for this? You kidding?
Empty address with good history is max $50.
I send cash in front first, so if you have any old address with history just contact me. 0% risk.

At least how many transactions need to be in the address? or total of bitcoin amount transacted?
what defines as good history for this case? would you accept compromised addresses? Cheesy
there are some old address-privkey pairs spread all over the forum and internet,
I'll sell you these if you haven't found them yourself Tongue

10+ btc received/sent < 2013.
No public addresses, as i replied - had people trying to sell me these. I do checkups.
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July 11, 2018, 10:32:49 AM
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About a year ago I saw a post explaining how someone can prove to be an early adopter and how that would help you cash out your btc and receive millions of dollars in a bank account, without any problem. Proving that it is not money laundering

Even an old bitcointalk account would do itin some cases

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