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May 22, 2018, 08:33:41 PM
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Thanks for the description of the bug, yesterday was the last time when the same bug was used, but it was not fixed from the middle of April?
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May 22, 2018, 08:55:40 PM
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Why are people still mining this shitty coin? The codebase is obviously fucked.

This "shitty" coin has bigger mcap than NANO, so either market is delusional or simply your assessment isn't correct.

Do you even understand why Mcap is not an indicator of a coin? If I create a 1 token coin and I buy that coin from myself then I can sell it for anything I want and whatever I sold it for is the Mcap.

https://hackernoon.com/why-market-capitalization-isnt-a-good-metric-for-cryptocurrencies-36a134e074f7

Hold on here. If i leave my bike without lock, it doesn't give someone the right to steal it. The same applies here.

This is an act of hate, destroying the coin and it is irreversible.

Shitcoins like this should die and anyone that buys into them should lose. People that bought this shit didn't do their research or they were to stupid to google either way they deserve what they get. This coin has ZERO new features and is nothing but marketing lies, deal with it and bail while you still can.

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May 22, 2018, 09:18:25 PM
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Is forking an option ?
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May 22, 2018, 09:22:39 PM
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Developers are working on a patch, new codebase is in the tunnel

http://cryptocoindaddy.com/verge-51-percent-attack/

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May 22, 2018, 09:57:45 PM
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Verge should just become an Expanse token. Cheesy The can code all the same features into smart contracts.

Honestly, I thought about this after the 1st attack. Really, I think they should consider it or converting to another token. It's a logical solution IMO
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May 22, 2018, 11:15:19 PM
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Will devs blacklist the millions of hacked xvg? Will they fix once for all?
Or the xvg owners are just screwed?
I'm seeing big dump is this coin right now.

For whatever reason, Verge is dump-resistant. Happened before, even before the first hack ocminer mentioned. Like one and a hlaf years back, Verge was a pure scrypt-coin and was attacked by big miners, effectively stalling the blockchain. Didn't influence price at all, quite the opposite actually, because liquidity at exchanges was just the coins already being there. This was the reasone they switched to multialg, btw.
Verge pretty much lives up to its heritage here: It was DogecoinDark before. And just like Dogecoin, it moves like a dog on speed in a wheat field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9vn6K4cUc
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May 22, 2018, 11:52:11 PM
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Darn, if only some valiant knight had tried to tell the Verge community that this was a possibility.  Maybe they could have done something about it...... LOL
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May 22, 2018, 11:57:30 PM
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Verge should just become an Expanse token. Cheesy The can code all the same features into smart contracts.

Honestly, I thought about this after the 1st attack. Really, I think they should consider it or converting to another token. It's a logical solution IMO

Yes, please! But not this Expanse bullcrap  Lips sealed

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May 23, 2018, 01:48:27 AM
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@Ocminer

Looks like nobody wanted to hear you when you said and posted the first time lol!

Nice work by the way!

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May 23, 2018, 03:02:58 AM
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First the hype about the partnership, then everything ends with an exploit and porn hub.
 
People use your brains, which company is going to partner with Verge, no company wants to be associated with porn.

Second, POW means proof of work, it has now failed twice,
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May 23, 2018, 05:26:28 AM
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This is great...
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May 23, 2018, 06:10:34 AM
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Does any one know why blocks from more than 19 hours before are being added into the blockchain? Wasn't the block drift set to 2 hours? How's this possible?

because they "walk back in time" - every of the hacker crafted block has a timestamp previous to the one before.. at some point you are at 19h ... if he would mine some more blocks, you'd be at 24h.. then at 36.. etc. at a certain point in the future.

since the coin compares current time with the latest block's timestamp it thinks "wow, the old block is hella old, I gotta lower difficulty so someone finally gets the chain moving!" and thus lowers the diff.. the more blocks come, the lower the diff.. at a certain point it's at the minimum but still the manipulated blocks fly in so it will never retarget up again until a "recent" block is mined with correct timestamp.

PS: I've explained all that stuff previously already Smiley

Ah okay ty, I was just confused because the drift time is meant to prevent this. Am I wrong in that regard?

No you're (almost) correct but if you produce a lots of blocks, you can always use the max drift time for each subsequent block. So for example Block 1 -> Block 2 uses max drift, then you can use again max drift between block 2 > 3 which leads to an even bigger drift from 1->3 ... and so on

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May 23, 2018, 06:25:44 AM
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soon this coin awaits a big fall down
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May 23, 2018, 07:17:01 AM
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So, was it patched or did the hackers just stop for a bit to collect profits?
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May 23, 2018, 09:28:44 AM
Last edit: May 23, 2018, 11:09:34 AM by Slemicek
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So, was it patched or did the hackers just stop for a bit to collect profits?

No real fix happened. Hacker can come back again after cool off.Like he did Now. Meanwhile xvg fans: We got hacked because everybody wants xvg.Plus asking about some crypto unity.How stupid can ppl become...
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May 23, 2018, 03:59:59 PM
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I wonder what's preventing me to do this myself. It doesn't feel that too advanced. Just set up a mining pool with a Verge daemon that alters the timestamps and then go to nicehash.com and rent enough hashpower.
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May 23, 2018, 05:33:15 PM
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I wonder what's preventing me to do this myself. It doesn't feel that too advanced. Just set up a mining pool with a Verge daemon that alters the timestamps and then go to nicehash.com and rent enough hashpower.

There is nothing from stopping you.  The best part is the devs proposed patch literally does 0 to fix this latest issue.  It is clear he does not even understand how the attack took place let alone what it would take to fix it.
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May 23, 2018, 05:35:48 PM
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Such attacks is a usual thing in our time, especially if we speak about big money. So we should always remember about protection and good software.
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May 23, 2018, 08:07:41 PM
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Just saw a news story about XVG being attacked and thought they must be talking about months ago.... people are still mining and buying this coin?!?!?  I was mining it on SuperNova when OCMiner broke down what was happening months ago... I was thankful it held value long enough for me to cash out and now we are back to the same dev team running the same copied codebase that they clearly don't fully understand, long after the phantom bank was going to be announced, and people are still buying and mining this coin?!

I am in awe....  To be honest the attackers now deserve the money, they are obviously a more skilled and dedicated dev team.
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May 23, 2018, 08:22:08 PM
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Curious.. In reviewing the wallets associated with the attackers, I see negative balances. For ex:

https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D7sbycsrSQpj6AjfjsHPb54fvEzN6JH3fp

Total Sent (XVG)   Total Received (XVG)   Balance (XVG)
56940.00000000   54020.00000000   -2920.00000000


So, what is the deal here? I don't have much time to look..

Display bug? Double spend exploit?

Is there a block explorer for XVG that actually works?


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