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March 31, 2018, 03:50:58 AM
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Hi All,

I am curious, how do bitcoin "mixers"/"tumblers" obtain "clean" coins. Some of the mixers I have seen, make claims such as "we send  you coins that have never been associated with illegal activity".

Similar to how most/all US dollar bills have been through strip clubs or have traces of drugs on them, how does this scenario play out in Bitcoin where all coins and transactions can be followed on the blockchain?

Is it possible, that by using mixers, one could end up with coins that are associated with illegal activity?

For example, CriminalA sends 0.5 BTC to mixer. Then privacy conscious law abiding citizen sends his 0.5 BTC to mixer. Do the mixers basically just swap the coins? So the law abiding citizen who is privacy conscious could be actually hurting his privacy?
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April 06, 2018, 02:26:48 PM
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Unless the mixer have a reserve of millions of dollars, they shouldn't make such a statement. It's impossible to know the origin of funds, so yes, It's possible to end up with coins used in illegal activities but It's unlikely that this will put in trouble as the funds could come from any part of the world and It's not that easy to trace them.

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April 06, 2018, 02:33:02 PM
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For example, CriminalA sends 0.5 BTC to mixer. Then privacy conscious law abiding citizen sends his 0.5 BTC to mixer. Do the mixers basically just swap the coins? So the law abiding citizen who is privacy conscious could be actually hurting his privacy?

no it is way more complicated than that which makes it a bit hard to explain. the best way to understand it is to mix once and follow the transactions to see what is happening.
basically it is a lot of mixture of coins through a lot of transactions before the coins come back to someone else and it is never going to be 1:1 transfer either. it goes into somewhat of a pool of transactions and comes out the other end.

at the end of the day the law abiding citizen is going to have a much cleaner bitcoin (with or without mixing) than the dollar bill in his pocket. there is a higher chance of traces of drugs on his dollar bill.

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