[ANN][Datacoin] Datacoin blockchain start announcement (Minor code upd + logo)

[Snard]

This only works if you submitted it before your opponents claimed to have invented it.
Just give it up, datacoin is dead as disco, incase you missed it

Actually that's not true. "Claiming" does not provide any rights to intellectual property. Someone would have to prove that they invented it first.  That is why people who write movies and tv shows send printed copies to themselves in the mail and leave them unopened.  That's tangible proof.  I am not sure if Datacoin would offer the same proof, but by having 100s, if not thousands, of people stating that the items was entered into the blockchain at a particular time is pretty convincing.

I really wish the developer would actually talk that way I could gauge just how aware of these problems he is.

Not sure I agree with all points you make, but I have to agree with you on this as well.  We need more active development.

Again look at perfect dark and share, it works like this.

Are you involved with the perfect dark project? It almost feels like your promoting.

Can someone please answer if the fee payed for data is merely done via client side setting and can be modified before compiling the program itself? This is kind of urgent fyi.

This was already asked by me and the developer answered. This was answered here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=325735.msg3700753#msg3700753

Essentially, yes, you could modify the client to submit files with 0 TX fees.  They would only, though, be submitted within your own blocks. As the blocks are not easy at all to mine this may not be that useful.

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[rayvellest]

I've been following this thread since its start, and I also contributed a few times with my own two cents too. The way I see it, this is a very promising coin and you guys have been very active raising all sorts of potential cracks that need to be adressed to improve the coin. Keep up the good work guys.

I'm helping with the marketing side of a few other coins, including Quark, and when I see what you guys are doing here, it makes me wish I had find you first instead. The professionalism level here is impressive, so whenever Datacoin is ready for primetime, please let me know, and I'll be glad to help promote the coin.

I'm sure Datacoin is going to be very popular. Oh, and btw, my area of expertise is branding, so I have to say, the logo is spot on!

[theprofileth]

This only works if you submitted it before your opponents claimed to have invented it.
Just give it up, datacoin is dead as disco, incase you missed it

Actually that's not true. "Claiming" does not provide any rights to intellectual property. Someone would have to prove that they invented it first.  That is why people who write movies and tv shows send printed copies to themselves in the mail and leave them unopened.  That's tangible proof.  I am not sure if Datacoin would offer the same proof, but by having 100s, if not thousands, of people stating that the items was entered into the blockchain at a particular time is pretty convincing.

What I was saying is that if they claim to have evidence they invented it on December 12th and the blockchain says you submitted it December 15th it isn't very helpful, only helpful if you put it up on the blockchain like on December 10th, furthermore the process to verify your ownership of the data is a bit odd legally.

Again look at perfect dark and share, it works like this.

Are you involved with the perfect dark project? It almost feels like your promoting.

No, I just know a useful program when I see one and I use perfect dark on occasion to get hard to find disc iso's and bdmv's
I really just want some people to try it and come back here and then talk about what datacoin should be doing because as it stands nobody but me seems to know much of anything regarding anonymous data services

Eitherway I sold all the coins that I mined, I am officially out of datacoin for good unless something major happens to this drowning fish.

[GreekBitcoin]

This only works if you submitted it before your opponents claimed to have invented it.
Just give it up, datacoin is dead as disco, incase you missed it

Actually that's not true. "Claiming" does not provide any rights to intellectual property. Someone would have to prove that they invented it first.  That is why people who write movies and tv shows send printed copies to themselves in the mail and leave them unopened.  That's tangible proof.  I am not sure if Datacoin would offer the same proof, but by having 100s, if not thousands, of people stating that the items was entered into the blockchain at a particular time is pretty convincing.

What I was saying is that if they claim to have evidence they invented it on December 12th and the blockchain says you submitted it December 15th it isn't very helpful, only helpful if you put it up on the blockchain like on December 10th, furthermore the process to verify your ownership of the data is a bit odd legally.

Again look at perfect dark and share, it works like this.

Are you involved with the perfect dark project? It almost feels like your promoting.

No, I just know a useful program when I see one and I use perfect dark on occasion to get hard to find disc iso's and bdmv's
I really just want some people to try it and come back here and then talk about what datacoin should be doing because as it stands nobody but me seems to know much of anything regarding anonymous data services

Eitherway I sold all the coins that I mined, I am officially out of datacoin for good unless something major happens to this drowning fish.

come on man. Drowning fish. 1 week ago you were trying to persuade others to build a pool about datacoin and after 7 days its a drowning fish?

You are very constructive and yes datacoin needs more things. But its experimental and only 1 month old! What do you expect? What was the last time something 1 month old was excellent?

Unfortunately i know shit about programming. But since you seem to know more try to persuade people to fix things more constructively. Dead disco and drowning fish after 1 month seem like personal butthurt or something...

[cryptrol]

Again look at perfect dark and share, it works like this.

Are you involved with the perfect dark project? It almost feels like your promoting.

No, I just know a useful program when I see one

Good luck using a closed source P2P "anonymous" service like Perfect Dark.
Most likely a honeypot, I would stay away from it.

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[maxsolnc]

I just want to clarify one thing.
I don't want to announce it officially before time comes, but!
We're preparing for taking over the development if oocook5u doesn't appear in several days. Now we have several tasks to be implemented - based both on initial DTC plans and on community suggestions. And we won't come here and say: 'okay, we're taking over Datacoin, you should praise us', but we will come with several major updates of Datacoin backend and GUI code. No 'drowning fish' or something like that - we're only at the beginning of the way which can last for years (no, I'm not joking).

[K1773R]

I just want to clarify one thing.
I don't want to announce it officially before time comes, but!
We're preparing for taking over the development if oocook5u doesn't appear in several days. Now we have several tasks to be implemented - based both on initial DTC plans and on community suggestions. And we won't come here and say: 'okay, we're taking over Datacoin, you should praise us', but we will come with several major updates of Datacoin backend and GUI code. No 'drowning fish' or something like that - we're only at the beginning of the way which can last for years (no, I'm not joking).

i offered my help to the OP for adding + maintaining a dnsseed, unfortunately he didnt answer yet

[cryptrol]

We're preparing for taking over the development if oocook5u doesn't appear in several days.

Oh, wait, the original DEV although unknown and sneaky as many other alt coin devs, showed some knowledge about the original bitcoin and primecoin code. Also he did not hide the fact that little code was changed for this alt compared to XPM which honors him, any other scam coin would have claimed this to be some revolutionary shitcoin, instead he stated this was an experiment , and to be honest, this is the value of this coin. I am not talking about the market value, because the market is crazy and people here is more interested in market value than in the coin itself.

I prefer an open and distributed development before a sneaky and individualized one but oocook5u mentioned he had plans for the coin like personal chains and big file storage, is there someone in your "takeover" team that have the skills to code this ?
So chill out guys, and let's wait a little more.

[maxsolnc]

We're preparing for taking over the development if oocook5u doesn't appear in several days.

Oh, wait, the original DEV although unknown and sneaky as many other alt coin devs, showed some knowledge about the original bitcoin and primecoin code. Also he did not hide the fact that little code was changed for this alt compared to XPM which honors him, any other scam coin would have claimed this to be some revolutionary shitcoin, instead he stated this was an experiment , and to be honest, this is the value of this coin. I am not talking about the market value, because the market is crazy and people here is more interested in market value than in the coin itself.

I prefer an open and distributed development before a sneaky and individualized one but oocook5u mentioned he had plans for the coin like personal chains and big file storage, is there someone in your "takeover" team that have the skills to code this ?
So chill out guys, and let's wait a little more.

hey cryptrol, check your PM

We're looking for developers who has enough skill. Big file storage doesn't seem like a problem, and oocook left some blank for it. But imagine: he comes with 'big file' and personal chains in 2-4-6 months. There is no development for these months, people forgot about coin, all PR efforts failed without dev improvements. Do you think that DTC can be succeed in such case? It needs 3rd party services, but no services will be implemented without good PR, and good PR is not easy when there is no development behind the coin.

i offered my help to the OP for adding + maintaining a dnsseed, unfortunately he didnt answer yet

OP doesn't answer anyone - neither via PM nor via mail\Github messages. No one knows what he is doing now and if he still continues development.

[cryptrol]

But imagine: he comes with 'big file' and personal chains in 2-4-6 months. There is no development for these months, people forgot about coin, all PR efforts failed without dev improvements.

I agree that PR should not be underestimated, but certainly not everybody is here for a quick profit, I am more interested in DTC as a technology than in it's market value. I am here for the long term and willing to build services around DTC and support the network, so count me in for helping on anything related to DTC, it's just I don't feel the hurry to takeover DTC development just now.
Coding takes time, and the features mentioned on the OP are not trivial to implement, in fact I know a couple of cryptocurrencies that are trying to implement multichain protocols and are not even in Beta so ...

[maxsolnc]

But imagine: he comes with 'big file' and personal chains in 2-4-6 months. There is no development for these months, people forgot about coin, all PR efforts failed without dev improvements.

I agree that PR should not be underestimated, but certainly not everybody is here for a quick profit, I am more interested in DTC as a technology than in it's market value. I am here for the long term and willing to build services around DTC and support the network, so count me in for helping on anything related to DTC, it's just I don't feel the hurry to takeover DTC development just now.
Coding takes time, and the features mentioned on the OP are not trivial to implement, in fact I know a couple of cryptocurrencies that are trying to implement multichain protocols and are not even in Beta so ...

...so at least 'big file' can be implemented much easier. Thank you for your answer and especially for 'long term' development, I'm planning to do the same. Let's say that we can not to takeover, but create alternative repo and position it as alternative for those who wants to use some new Datacoin features. Look: Core development -> PR -> attracting other developers -> more services. I repeated it many times and will repeat one more time: all things that we're doing now are not for quick pump, but only for attracting more specialists to create unique services and tools . And if Datacoin reaches and stays at 0.001..0.003 (not 10000% increase, just like a week ago it was at 0.0015) , it will be enough to pay people for their work, because there are very few enthusiasts who wants to work for free.

[maxsolnc]

I got several notifications about block explorer and strange timestamps of last blocks. http://chainbrowser.com is now rebuilding block database, so recent blocks are still not been showed. Snard told that is will be finished soon, so don't worry.

[carajillu]

All my 7 instances had to rebuild block database, any info on that??

[maxsolnc]

All my 7 instances had to rebuild block database, any info on that??

need to check for checkpoints in the code. I'm too sleepy to do that just now, but you can try. Anyway, both my Windows wallet didn't need to rebuild, and transactions work good (checked it)

[carajillu]

Re downloaded block chain and all is working perfectly now

[kuverty]

I compiled it to try it out but I cannot run datacoind-qt... I don't understand. Access denied.

[SlidingHorn]

I compiled it to try it out but I cannot run datacoind-qt... I don't understand. Access denied.

Are you running windows or linux (if linux, what distro)?  What version?

Is "Access Denied" all that it's saying? 

Copy & paste your input/output if you're able...screenshot would work too.

[kuverty]

I compiled it to try it out but I cannot run datacoind-qt... I don't understand. Access denied.

Are you running windows or linux (if linux, what distro)?  What version?

Is "Access Denied" all that it's saying? 

Copy & paste your input/output if you're able...screenshot would work too.

This machine is running Ubuntu 13.04. I can't get anything useful anymore, I already compiled so I'd have to recompile. It just basically says "Permission denied" when I type "./datacoin-qt.pro"

[SlidingHorn]

I compiled it to try it out but I cannot run datacoind-qt... I don't understand. Access denied.

Are you running windows or linux (if linux, what distro)?  What version?

Is "Access Denied" all that it's saying? 

Copy & paste your input/output if you're able...screenshot would work too.

This machine is running Ubuntu 13.04. I can't get anything useful anymore, I already compiled so I'd have to recompile. It just basically says "Permission denied" when I type "./datacoin-qt.pro"

In which directory did you try to compile the 1st time? Did you change it? (Sounds like you've got it, but now I'm curious, lol)

[maxsolnc]

I compiled it to try it out but I cannot run datacoind-qt... I don't understand. Access denied.

Are you running windows or linux (if linux, what distro)?  What version?

Is "Access Denied" all that it's saying? 

Copy & paste your input/output if you're able...screenshot would work too.

This machine is running Ubuntu 13.04. I can't get anything useful anymore, I already compiled so I'd have to recompile. It just basically says "Permission denied" when I type "./datacoin-qt.pro"

In which directory did you try to compile the 1st time? Did you change it? (Sounds like you've got it, but now I'm curious, lol)

and did you chmod'ed it to be executed?