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April 05, 2018, 04:03:17 PM
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With all the news coming out of China, like Xi being able to rule without term limits, this is one that didn't surprised me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqeg8vLlx7c

Do you agree with this? Should the state regulate religion as strictly as China does? For example, they screen people before allowing them to go an the haj to Mecca.
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April 05, 2018, 04:20:54 PM
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I don't think government should have anything to do with religion.
Not regulating it, not give it tax brakes, nothing.

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April 05, 2018, 04:51:51 PM
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I don't think government should have anything to do with religion.
Not regulating it, not give it tax brakes, nothing.

Funny that some religious groups would complain when the state would tell them they are being intolerant, etc., but would gladly take the tax break which is still government interference.
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April 07, 2018, 08:22:27 PM
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The Communist Party is all about order and stability and they probably view religion as a possible destabilizing factor (Muslim secessionists in the western provinces, protesting Buddhist monks in Tibet, etc.). They know religion can also always be used as a rally cause and probably observed how the Catholic Church in nearby Philippines helped break the Marcos dictatorship in 1986. The Tiananmen Massacre happened 1989 as a wave of anti-authoritarianism spread around the world (8888 uprising in Burma in 1988, Velvet Revolution in then Czechoslovakia in 1989, the collapse of the communist regime in Romania also in 1989, etc)

Officials are also required to be atheists and so they'll be probably avoid trying to look soft against religious groups to keep up appearances in the party.
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April 18, 2018, 09:20:53 AM
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With all the news coming out of China, like Xi being able to rule without term limits, this is one that didn't surprised me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqeg8vLlx7c

Do you agree with this? Should the state regulate religion as strictly as China does? For example, they screen people before allowing them to go an the haj to Mecca.


Really ? They not allowing bible in their country ? Then why ? A bible is full of Gods story , so why they do not allowed it . And i think if people read a bible they feel better and they recognize and solve their own problems.

Just like what i did , If time comes i feel like im not happy , stress, sick etc . I always read a bible and it answer why i feel that way .
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April 18, 2018, 09:33:24 AM
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With all the news coming out of China, like Xi being able to rule without term limits, this is one that didn't surprised me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqeg8vLlx7c

Do you agree with this? Should the state regulate religion as strictly as China does? For example, they screen people before allowing them to go an the haj to Mecca.

China is one country that do not believe in God. They refuse to hear and learn other religion or doctrines. This should not be adopt by other countries. Man has free will. He has the right to choose what is right or wrong and what is best for him. A man should not be dictated by government when it comes to religion.

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April 18, 2018, 10:41:40 AM
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There is only one country in the world which has successfully managed to counter religious extremism, and that is China. They are doing the right thing. The preference should be given to native religions such as Taoism, Confucianism and Buddhism. Foreign religions such as Islam and Christianity should not be allowed to convert people in China.

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April 18, 2018, 12:01:46 PM
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With all the news coming out of China, like Xi being able to rule without term limits, this is one that didn't surprised me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqeg8vLlx7c

Do you agree with this? Should the state regulate religion as strictly as China does? For example, they screen people before allowing them to go an the haj to Mecca.

Well there are a lot of things that should never be emulated from the chinese and i don't think any state would be crazy enough to impliment such laws. Their government seems to ve very fond of having control over everything there

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April 18, 2018, 01:05:50 PM
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In my opinion no government should be allowed to ban any book.
In the best case I could accept an age limit but no complete ban.

It does not matter if it's the bible or any other book.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_banned_by_governments
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April 18, 2018, 01:31:55 PM
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With all the news coming out of China, like Xi being able to rule without term limits, this is one that didn't surprised me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqeg8vLlx7c

Do you agree with this? Should the state regulate religion as strictly as China does? For example, they screen people before allowing them to go an the haj to Mecca.

state always will fight religion except the state has its own religion.

if you have a completely atheistic state, the elite wil run a secret religion.

like in the west/soviet union -> freemasons

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April 18, 2018, 02:11:19 PM
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The Chinese government should respect other religions, let people do what their religion dictates. Religion will not interfere with your government.


I think the Chinese people respect the other religions. Also it is important that the government intervenes at times

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April 18, 2018, 03:10:56 PM
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I don't think government should have anything to do with religion.
Not regulating it, not give it tax brakes, nothing.

Government can't help to have something to do with religion, because government, itself, is a religion.

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April 18, 2018, 03:11:51 PM
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I don't think government should have anything to do with religion.
Not regulating it, not give it tax brakes, nothing.

Funny that some religious groups would complain when the state would tell them they are being intolerant, etc., but would gladly take the tax break which is still government interference.

Without government there wouldn't be any tax to get a tax break from.

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April 18, 2018, 03:13:48 PM
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The Chinese government should respect other religions, let people do what their religion dictates. Religion will not interfere with your government.

I like your word "other."

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April 18, 2018, 03:17:48 PM
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There is only one country in the world which has successfully managed to counter religious extremism, and that is China. They are doing the right thing. The preference should be given to native religions such as Taoism, Confucianism and Buddhism. Foreign religions such as Islam and Christianity should not be allowed to convert people in China.

The problem is, the only reason why China isn't fighting religions such as "Taoism, Confucianism and Buddhism" is, they are too inbred in the people. Fighting those religions would cause rebellion and civil war that would weaken China.

The truth is that the Chinese government would like all religions except the Chinese-government-religion to go away, so that the Chinese leaders have full control, and get more money that way.

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April 19, 2018, 08:31:19 AM
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With all the news coming out of China, like Xi being able to rule without term limits, this is one that didn't surprised me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqeg8vLlx7c

Do you agree with this? Should the state regulate religion as strictly as China does? For example, they screen people before allowing them to go an the haj to Mecca.

Maybe because Bible to them was against to their belief, due to most of them are budhism if I am not mistaken. Besides, we nothing about it due to it is the country rules of China's governement.

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April 28, 2018, 05:02:16 AM
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Politics (Government) and the Church will always have their gap, and we can't as much do anything about it, even if there is a freedom of speech. We can't make people believe in our beliefs just because we think it's right, and we also can't make people leave the country only because they won't allow that religion. It's okay to be strict when it comes to religion, but I hope there is hate-shaming on each other with this. It would be better if people were aware of your faith rather than not so they can avoid bad mouthing.



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April 28, 2018, 05:14:49 AM
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With all the news coming out of China, like Xi being able to rule without term limits, this is one that didn't surprised me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqeg8vLlx7c

Do you agree with this? Should the state regulate religion as strictly as China does? For example, they screen people before allowing them to go an the haj to Mecca.

Government should tax the religious businesses aka churches.  Donations to religious businesses (churches) should not be tax deductible.

Government has no business blocking flow of information.

Blocking downloads of books is a big no-no.
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April 28, 2018, 07:01:04 AM
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As far as I know, China is not a secular country. That's why, rulers of china think that they have right to interfere with their citizen's religions. But, actually, these rulers are offending against the human rights. People in china have right to believe any regilion and goverment of china should not interfere with their beliefs for sure.

China has already sanctioned many of the churches and denominations and the authorities have problem only with those churches which refuse to register and engage in underground activities. I wouldn't say that this is interference in personal beliefs.

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April 29, 2018, 01:56:05 AM
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With all the news coming out of China, like Xi being able to rule without term limits, this is one that didn't surprised me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqeg8vLlx7c

Do you agree with this? Should the state regulate religion as strictly as China does?
Just read what happened to Orthodox Church of China and its followers.

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Martyrs_of_China

Despite changes in official agenda, the modern regime still continues same "humane" treatment of orthodox christians. Status of Orthodox Church is de facto equal to that of well-known terrorist organiations, like IS or Al-Quaeda.

It would be ridiculous to refer to Bible downloads ban after giving that into account.

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