Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section?

[Flying Hellfish]

Scams aren't moderated by staff so you should leave those alone if you become a mod but feel free to leave negative feedback on scams or potential ones.

Ya, I'm aware of forum policy on moderating scams, to be honest I don't see a lot of "scamming potential" in the politics boards so I wouldn't expect there to be much "scam tagging" in that board!

It's very easy to get dishearten when your accuracy is falling and there's no way to verify why, and especially in Politics and Society due to the sheer amount of spam. Although, 257 good reports is still a very respectable number.

This was kinda of it for me.  As mentioned there is no way to know why and it is a little frustrating tbh.  I didn't mind reporting in an effort to try to help clean up those boards but I certainly did not want to waste anyone's time.  Based on not wanting to waste anyone's time and the fact that the merit system dropped I decided to reduce my reporting and just wait and see how things go.

As I enjoy a good political debate a dedicated mod to the politics board seems like a really good idea and whomever it ends up being you will probably see a bunch of reports from me.

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[Cobalt9317]

my answer is as bright as star. Willing? no way I'm still young to worried about how to save free folks from being civilized and I'm more worried how to plant a vegetables in my garden so I can practice my belly to get use to a healthy living.

I didn't even post in that section however there's no way of knowing it because general statistic had been disabled for a long time now and rereading my back post would be laborious as of now.

[mikeoneal]

The best person will be @Flying Hellfish , a mod should be neutral , not a representant of a group , and @Flying Hellfish is the best candidat to choose , with his 257 report noone beat this. Added a mod who will work for a group of bounty managers or a group of DT members will be the worst decision you can take theymos.

[Kim Ji Won]

It surprises me that only 15 people have reported more than one post in 3 months. That doesn't show much community involvement (although I don't know the numbers for other boards).

Most people probably don't want to waste their time with it. It takes time to report things and there's no real benefit for people other than helping the community out.

What if mods reward members a merit for an accurate report of spam/useless posts topic? This way more users will have more initiative to report those kinds of threads/posts whenever they see one. This will also help the forum as a whole if there are a lot of members who will do so, but I guess it would add a huge workload since the moderators will get more report than it is now. This is just my opinion tho.

[actmyname]

What if mods reward members a merit for an accurate report of spam/useless posts topic? This way more users will have more initiative to report those kinds of threads/posts whenever they see one. This will also help the forum as a whole if there are a lot of members who will do so, but I guess it would add a huge workload since the moderators will get more report than it is now. This is just my opinion tho.

Merit system should be used to create new and more useful posts while decreasing the number of spam posts.

By adding report rewards, you're only acting upon the latter. Plus, you'll probably see a lot of spam reports – if users are scrambling to get merit now through strange ways, then surely they won't care about doing bad reports as long as they can get some good reports through (which result in merit)?

[TheBeardedBaby]

What if mods reward members a merit for an accurate report of spam/useless posts topic? This way more users will have more initiative to report those kinds of threads/posts whenever they see one. This will also help the forum as a whole if there are a lot of members who will do so, but I guess it would add a huge workload since the moderators will get more report than it is now. This is just my opinion tho.

It's maybe good in one way but just imagine all the shitposters hungry for merit what they can do if such change is accepted? Creating shit-threads only to report them accumulating merit. There are many ways to abuse system like this and you are not the first to suggest it. It has been discussed before, just search the forum

[LoyceV]

What if mods reward members a merit for an accurate report of spam/useless posts topic? This way more users will have more initiative to report those kinds of threads/posts whenever they see one. This will also help the forum as a whole if there are a lot of members who will do so, but I guess it would add a huge workload since the moderators will get more report than it is now. This is just my opinion tho.

It's maybe good in one way but just imagine all the shitposters hungry for merit what they can do if such change is accepted? Creating shit-threads only to report them accumulating merit. There are many ways to abuse system like this and you are not the first to suggest it. It has been discussed before, just search the forum

I have suggested it before, but in a 1 Merit per 100 reports (say >95% accurate) ratio. I don't think it's worth making 100 bad posts just to report them, when it's easier to just find 100 bad posts. And if someone reports 1000 posts, I don't mind him reaching Member status. Even if his own posts aren't that good, he'll have a positive net contribution to the forum after 1000 reports.

[Kim Ji Won]

By adding report rewards, you're only acting upon the latter. Plus, you'll probably see a lot of spam reports – if users are scrambling to get merit now through strange ways, then surely they won't care about doing bad reports as long as they can get some good reports through (which result in merit)?

It's maybe good in one way but just imagine all the shitposters hungry for merit what they can do if such change is accepted? Creating shit-threads only to report them accumulating merit. There are many ways to abuse system like this and you are not the first to suggest it. It has been discussed before, just search the forum

Well, if you guys put it that way made me realize all the worst possible outcomes that can go along with it if report rewards will be implemented. I apologize for that suggestion, I did not put too much about it earlier. Thinking about it now, it is good as it is now because members who report useless posts on their own volition is much better because posts that are being reported with that initiative are ones that should be really deleted in the forum.

[TheBeardedBaby]

I have suggested it before, but in a 1 Merit per 100 reports (say >95% accurate) ratio. I don't think it's worth making 100 bad posts just to report them, when it's easier to just find 100 bad posts. And if someone reports 1000 posts, I don't mind him reaching Member status. Even if his own posts aren't that good, he'll have a positive net contribution to the forum after 1000 reports.

As I agree with you I see also weakness.
Let us take the ICO pumpers as an example, the bots are creating thousands of comments per day, I try to spare some time to browse and report some profiles in the ANN section,but there is just an disaster, well this is other topic.

As bots are created to post in the threads, seems to be easy to make a bot to report threads.
Here is an example of a report link >

Code:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reporttm;topic=3292413.27;msg=34433583

Well, you have some cool down time between reports for sure, but I don't think this will stop them as they can adjust the time between reports.
So you have two bots running, one spamming, other reporting. Then you have an extra income when doing the ico pumps from farming menit and selling accounts.

There is an option like captcha to be added for both posting and reporting, but many users already have trouble using it for login so it has to be locally integrated.

Of course there will be real people reporting too, so it's kind of put the shiposters to do some good work, but I don't know what will be the impact of reporting.

[Cobalt9317]

my answer is as bright as star. Willing? no way I'm still young to worried about how to save free folks from being civilized and I'm more worried how to plant a vegetables in my garden so I can practice my belly to get use to a healthy living.

I didn't even post in that section however there's no way of knowing it because general statistic had been disabled for a long time now and rereading my back post would be laborious as of now.

Don't think you're in the running and I don't think they're recruiting shitposters for the job anyway.

Indeed I just speak my opinion about the matter, you really have a broad knowledge about shitposting.

[hilariousetc]

It surprises me that only 15 people have reported more than one post in 3 months. That doesn't show much community involvement (although I don't know the numbers for other boards).

Most people probably don't want to waste their time with it. It takes time to report things and there's no real benefit for people other than helping the community out.

What if mods reward members a merit for an accurate report of spam/useless posts topic? This way more users will have more initiative to report those kinds of threads/posts whenever they see one. This will also help the forum as a whole if there are a lot of members who will do so, but I guess it would add a huge workload since the moderators will get more report than it is now. This is just my opinion tho.

As I've mentioned before it would just be exploited by people if you could earn merits this way. I wouldn't be against rewarding people for reporting in some other capacity or with additional perks but merit shouldn't be given out for it as it's just asking to be gamed.

[digaran]

If you pay me $1000 per month, I will spend 7-9 hours 5 days a week to become a mod. I have been called staff recently, I wouldn't mind to make it official. I don't have a job. my country could go to war. let me climb this ladder.

@don DarkStar_, suchmoon, and the rest of the don's family, I will serve you, just let me become a mod, may we have 72 members like alia in heaven.

Note, I immediately edited the post about Joe even before I open this thread.
Note again, trust me once, if I betrayed you, you'd lose nothing, a mod's actions could be reversed. if I don't betray you, you could have a loyal staff forever. I don't want your place as an admin.

Note once more, nobody would vouch for me, my resume is in your hands as the admin.

[InvoKing]

@theymos : why just one mod? (or not?), cleaning dusts from the biggest jungle needs more hands.
I believe most of the top reporters are good, go vod?

#Send_more_troops!

#Good luck for our brave peace keepers in their infinity war!

[Lauda]

It surprises me that only 15 people have reported more than one post in 3 months. That doesn't show much community involvement (although I don't know the numbers for other boards).

Most people probably don't want to waste their time with it. It takes time to report things and there's no real benefit for people other than helping the community out.

Exactly. Why would anyone force themselves to go through a lot of garbage, and report posts without any certainty that they would actually be handled (soon)?

[OgNasty]

It surprises me that only 15 people have reported more than one post in 3 months. That doesn't show much community involvement (although I don't know the numbers for other boards).

Most people probably don't want to waste their time with it. It takes time to report things and there's no real benefit for people other than helping the community out.

Exactly. Why would anyone force themselves to go through a lot of garbage, and report posts without any certainty that they would actually be handled (soon)?

“The good you do today, will often be forgotten.  Do good anyway.”
- Mother Teresa

[Quickseller]

I am well versed and interested in various political topics in the US and to a lesser extent internationally.

I don’t currently frequently read the politics section and haven’t for a while because of its high level of garbage posts/threads.

I have my own opinions on various topics, but am respectful to opposing opinions, even if they are ridiculous.

I am familiar with the various forum rules.

I probably wouldn’t be able to commit to spending more than 5-10 hours/week helping out, although I may end up spending more time if I have the time.

[AverageGlabella]

Looks to me that Flying Hellfish has already been trying to moderate that sub forum he'll probably be just fine to have powers there. Anyway what posts should one report in the Politics and Society? I took a look and it looks to me that the majority of the posts are trash and if a topic is creating bad responses shouldn't it be scrapped itself? For example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3257278.0 that topic can only be answered a few times in different ways its already gone past the point where all replies are repeated should that topic be reported?

I would prefer to just continue posting in serious discussion because it's not as trashy as that sub forum.

If you pay me $1000 per month, I will spend 7-9 hours 5 days a week to become a mod. I have been called staff recently, I wouldn't mind to make it official. I don't have a job. my country could go to war. let me climb this ladder.

@don DarkStar_, suchmoon, and the rest of the don's family, I will serve you, just let me become a mod, may we have 72 members like alia in heaven.

Note, I immediately edited the post about Joe even before I open this thread.
Note again, trust me once, if I betrayed you, you'd lose nothing, a mod's actions could be reversed. if I don't betray you, you could have a loyal staff forever. I don't want your place as an admin.

Note once more, nobody would vouch for me, my resume is in your hands as the admin.

Not asking for much hey!

[digaran]

I guess what theymos wants is actually moderating the forum and enforcing the rules. for example:

User above has posted 4 times in a row. a mod could merge them to one post.

Or this one:

yes should be transparent of every thing. because you are husband and wife should know all about your doing.  It doesn't mean Just because you have the access of his/her email you have to get involve but you are looking his stuff.  It should be reciprocal. You should be sharing something if your partner also did share it. People are happiest when they have a match. You and your partner should be a match in that respect too.

Obviously trying to increase post count, you shouldn't quote somebody and then say nothing if you are a bounty participant, it shows that user has no regard for the forum. he is not even interested in the discussion.

Again this dude:

I feel strange when relating social media with piracy

Not even reading what he wrote, somebody who would quote a 5 lines comment to say something constructive, should at least check to see that he'd spelled "privacy" wrong. what he has done has nothing to do with freedom of speech, it's an attempt to spam and increase post count and should be deleted.

This user has most of his half liner posts in Politics & Society section, he is a service owner selling proxies. most of his/her posts are in that section, even has repeated some short comments, but they are on different topics and posted in different times. if he was in a bounty campaign, you could have consider deleting his posts. most of his posts are on topic and to the point.

why not? to hide something?

There is something suspicious about the following posts, there are a few just like them in this user's post history, but they are not posted on the same thread but on the same topics. would you ban this user? of course not.

because they are not real men

because these are not real men

This one should be deleted, title: Re: Who is the most powerful politicians?

Bill Gates

This shouldn't be tolerated otherwise it would become a habit.

This one is not about poor English, he/she doesn't even know what he is talking about. a nation's education is about spinal cord? Nonsense.

The well-educated nation is the backbone of the nation and the nation. The higher the education rate in the country, the higher the progress of the country and so much more. And so the backbone of the nation's education is about the spinal cord.

This is on page 24 of a topic, there are more than 20 posts concluding the same thing. this user doesn't have anything useful to contribute first, at least a post with more than 5 lines in English forums. only used P & S section to increase post count. what he/she said, is like me saying that, not all the prostitutes are like alia, there are some good prostitutes in the society. if I only post the part in bold, without any contribution, that post should be deleted if you don't want to ban the user you should disable their signature. we shouldn't allow them to abuse the freedom and should delete their posts. I don't agree or disagree with what he has posted, there are many other posts saying the same thing, he didn't read a few pages before posting? when his post is deleted or his signature is disabled, there will be no more redundant replies. (note this wasn't about Muslims or what he is saying, this was a random pick on a section where people use to also talk about nations and their religious beliefs) you don't want his posts gone? let a mod disable his signature.

I believe that not all Muslims are bad. The Muslim nation loves to live peacefully. But there are some bad people who are bad in society.

Money is one of the major thing in our life.Money can give you happiness.You can enjoy very luxurious life by money.Some people used to tell that money is the second god.

Remember, you don't eat your family, I don't know if you meant this kind of post should not be deleted, I'd delete this one posted after 18 pages.

Money is the one of part our life if you don't have money for now you don't eat your family and if you want to buy your all you needs you need for money to buy and you need to work for earn money for your family

This is not about freedom of speech. this one is like hundreds of other replies:

money is the main factor to survive in the world. it keeps a man calm. a man having money doesn't involve in harmful activities.

The user above is like thousands of other users. he/she is definitely an alt, many of his/her posts are in P & S section. a mod should take such users and investigate 50 accounts every day and then deletes their redundant posts. this could result as a warning to these account farmers. a mod should find different users with different writing styles to delete their posts. deleting a whole topic without reading every single post is not enough and would result having them posted again. if similar redundant posts are deleted every day, they will stop posting. if a mod could have access disabling their signatures from showing, they will become Jr members if they try to register new accounts, now with merit they will not be able to go above Jr member rank.

You want me to give you more examples? at least let me have alia for a few minutes. a man has got to recharge, right?

[boranes]

@theymos can you show us bad reports too?

Moderator doesn't have to be trusted or regular poster in politics section, he has to moderate section following forum rules and nothing else, Flying Hellfish looks like good candidate. He should be moderator unless he has too many bad reports.

[digaran]

@theymos can you show us bad reports too?

Moderator doesn't have to be trusted or regular poster in politics section, he has to moderate section following forum rules and nothing else, Flying Hellfish looks like good candidate. He should be moderator unless he has too many bad reports.

Your only valid indication is too many bad reports? of course you need to be trusted, it's all about the trust. if you could find somebody to trust, you could even teach them what and how to do and then know that they will always do the right thing. theymos needs somebody first to trust and then to know a few things about the big picture.
Also, did he just woke up after 15 days of inactivity or his posts are in sections ignored by me? he isn't showing that much interest anyways.

and whomever it ends up being you will probably see a bunch of reports from me.

If you want it, say that you want it, I can feel doubt in you. be like me only in this matter (I don't want to share alia with anybody else, so don't be like me in my desires for holy purposes a.k.a.... no this is not the place to explain what kind of purposes I'm talking about.) even though I am more interested in major policies, this is a start, right?

No trout please theymos, I wasn't thinking about administrator, just a global moderator after a while. I'm not fit for that (administrator) position. to all other candidates, if you want to be a moderator, please take time and present a few examples like I did. it took me 3 hours. I'm not perfect, I will be needing to learn many things. please don't let the cartels to take over this forum.

Note, Economics section also needs a mod.
Question, do you pay more than $1000 for less than 40 hours a week to your mods? if yes, my offer is the same. dollar was 4000 RLS in my country last week, now is 5000 RLS. sanctions man. $1000 per month is the average wage. I also shouldn't enroll in the highest paying signature campaign just because I'm a mod. however I have to kiss alia and all other holy purposes and jokes goodbye as a mod.

If this is indeed the last time I'm free as a random forum member, I hope to have 72 young girls all for myself to do whatever I want with them in heaven. yeah, right.
May the best person for this position become the moderator.

~CS for community servant.