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August 09, 2018, 03:30:09 AM
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when we buy coins or high-priced tokens while currently the coin price drops drastically due to a dump in the market, I am usually not too worried and not panic because there will be a correction and the next price will improve and even make a big profit

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August 09, 2018, 06:44:01 AM
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in my opinion the condition of the exchange place will experience a price increase when the end of the year and indeed usually at the end of the year there will be good news that can make the price of bitcoin rise because there are so many investors who will buy bitcoin.

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August 09, 2018, 08:02:53 AM
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This morning I saw an article where a guy made a simple calculation through Google trends about HODL strategy, and it showed that call to HODL used less and less from February of 2018. Popularity of word Bitcoin and crypto currency is also falling down.
Why it is so? Do not people believe in Bitcoin and it's bright future anymore?
No matter on such tend I am going to HODL my founds till bitcoin will not come back to 20k$ Grin
It is completely wrong to hold and I regret that I chose that strategy from the beginning of my cryptocurrency career, and so I would say that from that beginning I have earned almost nothing. I will try to trade now.
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August 09, 2018, 10:58:13 AM
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This morning I saw an article where a guy made a simple calculation through Google trends about HODL strategy, and it showed that call to HODL used less and less from February of 2018. Popularity of word Bitcoin and crypto currency is also falling down.
Why it is so? Do not people believe in Bitcoin and it's bright future anymore?
No matter on such tend I am going to HODL my founds till bitcoin will not come back to 20k$ Grin
It is completely wrong to hold and I regret that I chose that strategy from the beginning of my cryptocurrency career, and so I would say that from that beginning I have earned almost nothing. I will try to trade now.
When engaging to bitcoin, either trading or investment, it's best to find and stick with your own strategy. Holding strategy may or may not work for all. If your strategy doesn't work for you, don't be disappointed, change your style but never your goal to succeed and survive. It's very important that you have to be on the look out of what's new, how market moves, be informed, and on how to manage risks factors. Stay patient, and don't panic, if things don't work well, just trust and believe that everything will be fine in the long run.

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August 09, 2018, 04:03:16 PM
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i think if I am still very confident that bitcoin will go back up so holding an asset in the long period is increasingly opening up opportunities in gaining substantial profit in the future especially to invest in bitcoin. Grin Grin
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August 09, 2018, 04:48:13 PM
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The holders of Bitcoin are the only one who understands and believes in the future of cryptocurrency. So those who have been selling off their coins are the ones who just want a quick profit but don't have any idea what is going on. Bitcoin is falling but the economy for adopting blockchain technology is already getting big.

In my own opinion, you are right that not everyone do really understand how the cryptocurrency works or when it will go in the future but as the technology grows and the demand in the market increasing, they should hold their coins because bitcoins price will be so much bigger in the future.

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August 14, 2018, 10:05:29 PM
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Just to recap here, every time you buy and sell bitcoin, you're moving in and out of the market. Every move you make in a market opens you up to inefficiency, which you're catching on both sides (up and down, IN and OUT) every time you're not perfectly calling a peak or valley. There are people who tried to beat the buy and hold mentality and they have invariably failed. Warren Buffet famously challenged any hedge fund to outperform the S&P 500 over a ten year period in a million dollar bet, and only one hedge fund trader was confident enough to take the bet. He lost by a landslide, because statistically speaking, you cannot outperform the market over long periods of time by actively trading, and Warren Buffet knew this and preyed on the ignorance of people who didn't. The steep decline in the number of actively managed hedge funds over the last 20 years is due to the fact that investors are learning this now too on a large scale. Those very few who do outperform the overall market in the short term are what statisticians would call lucky, and they revert to the mean before too long. The fact that you're losing efficiency by actively trading is supported by the fact that nobody can do it over the long term.

Could you please address my point specifically? You talk in vague terms which are not applicable to what I'm talking about. To repeat, I'm not talking about moving your whole capital in and out of the market. Did I really forget to mention this in my post? So let's reiterate, what exactly do you disagree with? For the record, Warren Buffett was talking about investments in real companies and businesses, so should I remind you what he thinks about Bitcoin? It seems to be the right place and the right time. If Bitcoin dies tomorrow, your whole buy and hold paradigm flies right out the window that very moment. Let me guess, now you are going to compare Bitcoin and the rest of the pack with S&P 500, aren't you?

Please, don't tell me about hedge funds and that shit. If you are going to challenge my point, stay focused on it.


It's actually directly on point, you're just not following it. Your point is you can trade in and out of a market and make more money than if you were to buy and hold it. There is no track record or body of data that supports this assertion for longer than a few years, which means that any short period of time where it does happen is variance (i.e., "luck") and those instances revert to the mean of under performance soon enough. There is no shortage of people who similarly believe like you do that they're smarter than everyone else and can magically put up market beating returns at will, despite the fact that of all the traders and investors who have tried to do so in recorded history have never had sustained and predictable success. So to think you can reliably make money trading in and out of a market better than just buying and holding, regardless of whether you're using all your capital or not (which doesn't even have any relevance at all to the topic), is to essentially believe that you're luckier than normal, which has nothing to do with investing acumen. What I disagree with is that investors generally, but you specifically, have the ability to put up market beating returns by actively trading.
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August 14, 2018, 10:12:11 PM
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Bitcoin is a digital currency with a capacity to increase in vlue base on demand and supply principle, now is the best time to keep HODL,Soon the bearish season will be over and we will all have reasons to smile.

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August 14, 2018, 10:17:10 PM
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For today it is true but I'd argue with that because nobody knows what will happen in future. BTC 50k$ and more is still possible I think, same about ETH, I don't think that current state of the market is final.

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August 14, 2018, 11:02:07 PM
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Yes. In the past few days buying and keeping only made us lose money. If it was me, I would choose to buy and sell the day. Only buy and sell in the day to make a profit.
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August 14, 2018, 11:24:08 PM
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For today it is true but I'd argue with that because nobody knows what will happen in future. BTC 50k$ and more is still possible I think, same about ETH, I don't think that current state of the market is final.
the situation now is not final and cryptocurrency will not have a final because cryptocurrency always changes its price but who still believes if cryptocurrency will give the best for us

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August 21, 2018, 11:28:52 PM
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I agree with that, too long saving your cryptocurrencies is not profitable. I prefer trading, than holding, because it's fastest way to earn some money, but now, there is no way good to invest.


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September 08, 2018, 01:31:46 AM
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for those who have been hodl from February, it is not yet able to make profit. but for those who sell sell? it makes the market even worse with a massive panic sell. better hodl only.

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September 08, 2018, 01:59:50 AM
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I still hold the coins that I get by following a few Ico and lock them for 1 year or until I get a profit and besides that I also buy some eth and bitcoin for the long term.

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September 08, 2018, 02:11:34 AM
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I do not think the HOLD strategy is impractical. The billionaire often does so and after a long time they have become rich. I believe the Crypto market is a very potential market and it is highly appreciated. And the investment will be effective 5-10 years later.
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September 08, 2018, 02:56:35 AM
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Yes its not really actual. It because not all holder have good condition. There some holdier that they depend thier daily profit on a coin thats why they immediately sell there coin if they feel they dont have money for daily needs
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September 08, 2018, 03:03:17 AM
Last edit: September 08, 2018, 03:15:46 AM by ProfWigSlipper
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No matter on such tend I am going to HODL...

HODL...
The HODL strategy is not actual


Please, imagine a person first landing here and seeing such a brain-dead stoooouu--pid example of following blind sheep. Does that help give you a different viewpoint?



most people are changing the way they invest from HODL to selling it now and taking the opportunity to buy at cheaper prices, now many people are starting to analyze bitcoin charts and most of those who have analyzed it can conclude that bitcoin will be downtrend for now.

You have a brain!
The average BTC bear market lasts almost 2 years and can lose up to 90% +, so why are so many people doing the (sp) HODL ,,,fi ng' idiot dance?
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September 08, 2018, 03:58:14 AM
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Many got mistaken with Hold strategy but in reality, Hodl is not real we should sell when the coin pumps to certain percentage than only w we will see profits

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September 08, 2018, 06:33:42 AM
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it seems that the strategy is very useful because the conditions of the bitcoin price will not go under the basics and should be from the condition of the bitcoin price you can already know that this bitcoin can be very expensive.
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September 08, 2018, 06:39:05 AM
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Because the ubiquity of the word bitcoin, digital currency and hodl diminishes on google details doesn't imply that individuals have likewise sold them, the hodl system is as yet done by numerous IMO. It may have been that they have discovered a superior place to look for realities crypto related, which is this gathering. They likewise may have had begun to hodl, not seeking anything about crypto, bitcoin and the word hold.
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