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October 11, 2011, 10:19:48 AM
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One question that comes to mind is how this software can be configured to hop merged mining proportional pools effectively.  I expect that both the Bitcoin and Namecoin blocks would have to be taken into account when working out whether or not to mine at the proportional pool but perhaps ignoring the Bitcoin blocks and using the Namecoin blocks directly would yield most of the profit.  Will this software work directly on a merged mining pool?

I'm also not aware of the approximate income bonus that one might expect from pool hopping but I doubt it competes to the current 40% bonus of merged mining so if one has to choose then merged mining will have priority.  It would be great to be able to stack these methods for a higher bonus (maybe 60 or 70%?).

The other problem is having a non proportional merged mining pool to hop to.  All I know of right now is simplecoin PPLNS (BTC+2%, NMC+10%), simplecoin SMPPS (BTC+2%), and solo merged mining but all of these have high variance.
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October 12, 2011, 04:11:43 AM
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it sounds like a good feature for CP to have. but what exactly do you mean by 40% bonus? is this compared to just sitting in an only BTC pps pool 24/7? do you mean hopping several merged pools or just staying on one? and with changing difficulty and exchange rates surly merged mining can't always give a steady 40% increase in BTC.
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October 12, 2011, 07:06:08 PM
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it sounds like a good feature for CP to have. but what exactly do you mean by 40% bonus? is this compared to just sitting in an only BTC pps pool 24/7? do you mean hopping several merged pools or just staying on one? and with changing difficulty and exchange rates surly merged mining can't always give a steady 40% increase in BTC.

Yes, the 40% bonus was applicable at the time of my post.  In the long term future the income bonus for merged mining will be precisely the market value of a namecoin divided by the market value of a bitcoin, maybe around 2%.  Right now that is 28% and falling.  In a small number of hours from now the income bonus will shoot up to around 100% (due to the falling Namecoin difficulty) but this will only hold for a day or so before returning to the mid 20's (my best guess).

That said, the income bonus should remain relatively high so long as the big pools don't use merged mining.  This will pressure the large pools to switch and we will soon reach a stable point where most pools are using merged mining.  I very much expect the proportional reward system will still be popular (why it's popular baffles me but it seems to be holding) so the miners which profit the most will be ones that have pool hopping software which takes full advantage of merged mining.  I don't doubt that in the mid-term that pool hopping will dwarf merged mining in terms of income bonus but right now I think merged mining is more profitable than pool hopping regular bitcoin pools.

I personally have no desire for such software as I mine PPLNS.  I just wondered whether or not hopping software could easily take both blockchains into account for effective merged mining pool hopping.
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October 15, 2011, 07:38:00 PM
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so with merged mining becoming active now in a few pools (eligius, slush) and others no doubt looking into it, are there plans to adapt CP to this?
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October 18, 2011, 12:05:45 AM
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bloodred, you still here?
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October 18, 2011, 07:08:29 PM
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I am, but I have significantly less free time and therefore significantly less time to dedicate to CherryPicking. I'm working on 0.6.8, most notably it will have an implementation of organofcorti's hop point approximation functions and a new parameter you can add to pool files to change their priority, so people who want to prioritize merged mining pools over regular pools can do so.

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October 23, 2011, 06:05:53 PM
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i'm having an issue with arsbitcoin. sometimes, but not all the time, CP will list their efficiency number as 10.0 even though they are a SMPPS pool. however, when i switch them to backup(PPS), it goes back to 1.00256....here is my cfg file for them

Type=SMPPS
Host=arsbitcoin.com
Port=8344
JSON=https://arsbitcoin.com/api.php
HashEx1="hashrate":"\d+
HashEx2=\d+
SharesEx1="currentroundshares":"\d+
SharesEx2=\d+
Div=1e3
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October 25, 2011, 04:23:04 AM
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any update on the eta of 0.6.8? specifically, a way to prioritize merged mining pools
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October 30, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
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anybody know the api link for mtred? i want to start using them as a pps back up since they put in merged mining with nmc. the problem is now i can't connect to their stats they must have changed something.
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November 03, 2011, 09:46:19 PM
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i get update error or pool considered invalid

;MtRed
Type=PPS
Host=mtred.com
Port=8337
JSON=https://mtred.com/api/user/key/mykey
HashEx1="hashrate":\d+\.?\d*
HashEx2=\d+\.?\d*
SharesEx1="roundshares":\d+
SharesEx2=\d+
Div=1
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November 03, 2011, 10:59:52 PM
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mtred changed their stats a little so the current profile no longer works for them. i'm not sure exactly what changed but i get the same error
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November 05, 2011, 12:25:29 PM
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Use this config for mtred, it accounts for the recent changes (and scrapes info from their web page, as they seem to have removed it from the API).
Code:
Type=PPS
Host=mtred.com
JSON=https://mtred.com
Port=8337
HashEx1=<span id="sh0">\d+\.?\d*</span></td>
HashEx2=>\d+\.?\d*
hashremove=>
Div=1

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November 06, 2011, 03:54:47 AM
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is there a way to make mtred have slightly better efficiency than other pps pools? id like to mine nmc there while hopping. the hopper picks ars and abcpool over mtred
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December 01, 2011, 11:56:45 PM
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I am interested in hiring an experienced hopper to manage a 10GHash/S mining operation. PM me please.

Thanks.

Are you running windows or linux?
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January 03, 2012, 09:10:40 PM
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HI,

I run into a problem what i can't solve. I am looking some help from the CP users. When i try to run the CherryPicking.jar file i am getting a Java error message. This error message tells me the poclbm folder doesn't exist. Although, the folder and the file is exist and it is accessible by anyone...

When i run the poclbm without CP i have no problem. I am using Ubuntu 10.04.

Any idea?



[Miner0] Error capturing miner output stream, this is a serious error.
java.io.IOException: Cannot run program "/var/poclbm/poclbm.py " (in directory "/var/poclbm"): java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory
        at java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(ProcessBuilder.java:475)
        at ProcessControl.ProcessHandler.startProcess(ProcessHandler.java:128)
        at ProcessControl.MinerController.switchPool(MinerController.java:384)
        at ProcessControl.MinerController.actionPerformed(MinerController.java:211)
        at javax.swing.Timer.fireActionPerformed(Timer.java:313)
        at javax.swing.Timer$DoPostEvent.run(Timer.java:244)
        at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(InvocationEvent.java:226)
        at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(EventQueue.java:647)
        at java.awt.EventQueue.access$000(EventQueue.java:96)
        at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(EventQueue.java:608)
        at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(EventQueue.java:606)
        at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
        at java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectionPrivilege(AccessControlContext.java:105)
        at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(EventQueue.java:617)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(EventDispatchThread.java:275)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(EventDispatchThread.java:200)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(EventDispatchThread.java:190)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:185)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(EventDispatchThread.java:177)
        at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(EventDispatchThread.java:138)
Caused by: java.io.IOException: java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory
        at java.lang.UNIXProcess.<init>(UNIXProcess.java:164)
        at java.lang.ProcessImpl.start(ProcessImpl.java:81)
        at java.lang.ProcessBuilder.start(ProcessBuilder.java:468)
        ... 19 more
[Miner0] Please restart CherryPicking




Here is the CP log file.


03-01-12 09:00:48 Attempting to parse 3bithasher.cfg
03-01-12 09:00:48 Pool 3bithasher might be configured correctly. It has been initialized anyway.
03-01-12 09:00:48 ================================================================================
03-01-12 09:00:48 Attempting to parse 4eclipsemc.cfg
03-01-12 09:00:48 Pool 4eclipsemc might be configured correctly. It has been initialized anyway.
03-01-12 09:00:48 ================================================================================
03-01-12 09:00:48 Attempting to parse 7mineco.cfg
03-01-12 09:00:48 Pool 7mineco might be configured correctly. It has been initialized anyway.
03-01-12 09:00:48 ================================================================================
03-01-12 09:00:48 ================================================================================
03-01-12 09:00:48 * Updating difficulty
03-01-12 09:00:49 Difficulty is: 1159929.4972244
03-01-12 09:00:49 * Updating pools
03-01-12 09:00:49 * 13slush
03-01-12 09:00:49 * Pool update done
03-01-12 09:00:49       Type: SCORE
03-01-12 09:00:49       Hash rate: 1256.31 GH/s
03-01-12 09:00:49       Monitoring mode: SHARES
03-01-12 09:00:49       Round shares: 276815
03-01-12 09:00:49       1.6048966059598464
03-01-12 09:00:49 * 2bitcoinlc
03-01-12 09:00:50 * Pool update done
03-01-12 09:00:50       Type: PROP
03-01-12 09:00:50       Hash rate: 159.004 GH/s
03-01-12 09:00:50       Monitoring mode: SHARES
03-01-12 09:00:50       Round shares: 1875778
03-01-12 09:00:50       3.7608099708156013
03-01-12 09:00:50 * 3bithasher
03-01-12 09:00:50 * Pool update done
03-01-12 09:00:50       Type: PROP
03-01-12 09:00:50       Hash rate: 1.79 GH/s
03-01-12 09:00:50       Monitoring mode: SHARES
03-01-12 09:00:50       Round shares: 1829903
03-01-12 09:00:50       3.6688336509039883
03-01-12 09:00:50 * 4eclipsemc
03-01-12 09:00:52 * Pool update done
03-01-12 09:00:52       Type: SCORE
03-01-12 09:00:52       Hash rate: 268.39 GH/s
03-01-12 09:00:52       Monitoring mode: SHARES
03-01-12 09:00:52       Round shares: 1896190
03-01-12 09:00:52       10.993583784314438
03-01-12 09:00:52 * 7mineco
03-01-12 09:01:02 * Socket timeout
03-01-12 09:01:02 * connect timed out
03-01-12 09:01:02 * Update error or pool considered invalid (lagging or down)
03-01-12 09:01:02 * Most efficient pool is: 13slush
03-01-12 09:01:02 1.6048966059598464
03-01-12 09:01:02 * Cherry Picking!
03-01-12 09:01:02 [Miner0] Error capturing miner output stream, this is a serious error.
03-01-12 09:01:02 [Miner0] Please restart CherryPicking
03-01-12 09:01:02 ================================================================================

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January 16, 2012, 04:20:01 AM
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can someone update the bitclockers cfg please? they changed their website design and i'm not sure how to do it.
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January 17, 2012, 04:57:50 PM
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nevermind. i figured it out.
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January 21, 2012, 10:14:51 PM
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nevermind. i figured it out.

can you post your updated cfg for them
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January 23, 2012, 07:53:34 AM
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;BitClockers
Type=PROP
Host=pool.bitclockers.com
Port=8332
JSON=http://bitclockers.com/api
HashEx1="hashrate":\d+\.?\d*
HashEx2=\d+\.?\d*
SharesEx1="roundshares":\d+
SharesEx2=\d+
Div=1e3
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January 24, 2012, 02:40:48 AM
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thanks blacbe. have you had any problems connecting to bitlc.net? did they change their page layout as well because i haven't been able to connect to them for the last few days
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