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June 08, 2016, 07:07:57 PM
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I thought by now the situation would have improved. The Brent crude prices are hovering around $50 per barrel for the past few weeks, and the Venezuelan government must be getting quite good amounts of Forex now. Seems like the governing elite is diverting the money to tax havens, and planning to escape from the country.

Do keep in mind that there will be a lot of propaganda around this. The west will want to hold Venezuela up as an example of a failed socialist state (which is ironic because the west loves socialism). Like all propaganda they will point to the instances of radical mayhem and infer that this is happening throughout the country. Most likely the worst is in the major cities while the small towns out in the country are probably living life as usual (with some more efforts than usual).

It is a good example of what will come and helps to demonstrate how to prepare. But if you watch that video of the Venezualan pageant women, it shows a bustling city without panic on the streets.

Such panic is a symptom of a bigger problem much in how Ferguson in the US is a symptom of our impending economic crisis. It hits some before it hits others. It's just more sensationalizing to report on those that it hits first.

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June 08, 2016, 07:52:18 PM
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I thought by now the situation would have improved. The Brent crude prices are hovering around $50 per barrel for the past few weeks, and the Venezuelan government must be getting quite good amounts of Forex now. Seems like the governing elite is diverting the money to tax havens, and planning to escape from the country.

Do keep in mind that there will be a lot of propaganda around this. The west will want to hold Venezuela up as an example of a failed socialist state

My thoughts exactly. I suspect also that there is a lot of resources and intelligence that has gone on behind the scenes to destabilise Venezeula (what with them holding the 2nd largest reserves of crude in the world right on the doorestep of the US, that great guzzler of the black gold).


(which is ironic because the west loves socialism).
You've lost me there though  Huh
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I thought by now the situation would have improved. The Brent crude prices are hovering around $50 per barrel for the past few weeks, and the Venezuelan government must be getting quite good amounts of Forex now. Seems like the governing elite is diverting the money to tax havens, and planning to escape from the country.

Do keep in mind that there will be a lot of propaganda around this. The west will want to hold Venezuela up as an example of a failed socialist state

My thoughts exactly. I suspect also that there is a lot of resources and intelligence that has gone on behind the scenes to destabilise Venezeula (what with them holding the 2nd largest reserves of crude in the world right on the doorestep of the US, that great guzzler of the black gold).


(which is ironic because the west loves socialism).


You've lost me there though  Huh


That is why socialism is a failure. No conspiracy. That exchange between you two is proof enough. Bad management of resources. Lack of vision. No nimble economical flexibility (centralized by bureaucrats who will never be on long lines to get food for their families and their connected friends), etc, etc.

People love to control other people. If small towns out in the country are probably living life as usual were too unimportant for the bureaucrats, they had to fend for themselves from the beginning. Now, because they knew how to grow their own food, because they could not afford cars, expensive flat TV etc. They are suffering less that people in Caracas who have been fed a whole slew of lies by their corrupted socialist propagandists.

Surprisingly, a lie is not a good source of protein and carbs. That is why they are starving now.







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June 10, 2016, 02:40:20 AM
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(which is ironic because the west loves socialism).
You've lost me there though  Huh

See:
Socialist health care, socialist retirement funding, socialist housing, wage controls, Obama, Hillary, Bernie, etc.

Progressive = socialist
Environmentalist = socialist
US liberal = socialist

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June 15, 2016, 11:33:49 PM
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Venezuela Sends In The Army To Deal With Desperate People Chanting, “We Want Food!”, One Killed…








Venezuela’s military has taken control of security in the coastal city of Cumaná after the latest bout of looting and food riots that led to the arrest of 400 people, many of them minors.

Violence engulfed the Caribbean city on Tuesday as looters swarmed over 60 shops after a rally of protesters demanding food got out of control.

Milagros Paz, an opposition legislator from the area, told reporters on Wednesday that one person died and 25 people were injured in the clashes. Unconfirmed social media reports have claimed there were several deaths.

Sucre’s governor, however, said that none of the alleged deaths were related to the unrest, at the same time as he announced a ban on the use of motorcycles in the city for the next three days.

“There were only 400 people arrested and the deaths were not linked to the looting,” Luis Acuña, from the ruling Socialist Party, told Globovisión. The governor blamed the violence on vandals paid to wreak havoc by right-wing politicians.

With desperate crowds of people chanting “We want food!,” protests and melees at shops have spread across Venezuela in recent weeks, fueled by severe shortages. Three people were shot dead in separate incidents last week, with a policeman and a soldier arrested in two cases.


https://news.vice.com/article/venezuela-sends-in-the-army-to-deal-with-food-shortage-protesters?utm_source=vicenewstwitter



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This is a lesson for all the oil producing nations (including Saudi Arabia and Qatar). They should have made wise investments when the oil price was high (some of them, like UAE and Norway did that in the form of sovereign wealth funds). In case of Venezuela, they squandered away all the oil money, thinking that the high oil prices will last for ever.


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June 16, 2016, 03:44:22 PM
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This is a lesson for all the oil producing nations (including Saudi Arabia and Qatar). They should have made wise investments when the oil price was high (some of them, like UAE and Norway did that in the form of sovereign wealth funds). In case of Venezuela, they squandered away all the oil money, thinking that the high oil prices will last for ever.

It's a lesson against centralization. The US did not centralize the whole economy around oil prices. The price went down and the people were like "meh, cheap gas". We did not take over the oil industry and run our economy from that income like Venezuela did.

Centralization only works if the gamble the government takes works out. Which it rarely does because politicians.

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July 30, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
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José Felix Pineda - Candidate killed as violence erupts in Venezuela vote



Caracas (AFP) - Deadly violence erupted around a controversial vote held in Venezuela on Sunday, with a candidate to the all-powerful assembly being elected shot dead in his home and troops firing weapons to clear protesters in Caracas.

The unrest highlighted the tensions over the vote called by beleaguered President Nicolas Maduro despite months of demonstrations and fierce international criticism.

He is gambling his four-year rule on the 545-member citizens' "Constituent Assembly" empowered to dissolve the opposition-controlled congress and change laws as it reforms the nation's constitution.

A candidate for the new body in Venezuela's southeastern town of Ciudad Bolivar, 39-year-old lawyer Jose Felix Pineda, was killed from multiple shots fired by assailants who broke into his home overnight, prosecutors said.

He was the second candidate to be murdered, after the July 10 death of another, Jose Luis Rivas, as he was campaigning in the northern city of Maracay.

In the west of Caracas, national guard troops fanning out to put down any disruption to the election used armored vehicles and fired shots to disperse protesters blocking roads.

Video posted on Twitter showed troops smashing down a metal gate and entering to the sounds of gunfire, and what appeared to be an armored vehicle on fire.

The opposition has called for a boycott and mass demonstrations against the election, which it calls a bid by Maduro to install a dictatorship with the backing of the military.

Four months of protests against Maduro and the new assembly have left more than 100 people dead.

Maduro kicked off voting by casting his ballot in a west Caracas polling station.

"I'm the first voter in the country. I ask God for his blessings so the people can freely exercise their democratic right to vote," the president said. He was accompanied by his wife, Cilia Flores, who is a candidate to sit on the new assembly.

Turnout will be key to determining the legitimacy of the election. But that will be difficult to ascertain as most voters will be able to vote twice, as candidates are drawn from social and industry sectors as well as geographically.

Surveys by Datanalisis, a pro-opposition polling firm, show more than 70 percent of Venezuelans opposed the idea of the new assembly -- and 80 percent reject Maduro's leadership.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/voting-starts-controversial-venezuela-election-105146151.html



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August 01, 2017, 06:09:17 PM
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TYT Explain Venezuela






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August 01, 2017, 06:12:57 PM
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So much bullshit anti-Venezula propaganda

The country is getting overthrown by the US, it's not internal politics you fucking dumb bastards.

It amazes me how people who I thought were smart just swallow the mainstream narrative without thinking

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August 01, 2017, 07:03:21 PM
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So much bullshit anti-Venezula propaganda

The country is getting overthrown by the US, it's not internal politics you fucking dumb bastards.

It amazes me how people who I thought were smart just swallow the mainstream narrative without thinking


Why would you think The Young Turks is anti-Venezuela propaganda?

Personally I believe everything is working fine in Venezuela, or at least... as predicted since November 11, 2013, 08:23:22 AM...


As Venezuela continues its descent into chaos, the world is getting a front row seat to what Socialism does to a country. In the middle of the night, two opposition leaders, Leopoldo Lopez and Antonio Ledezma, were forcibly removed from their homes.

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August 01, 2017, 08:55:24 PM
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So much bullshit anti-Venezula propaganda

The country is getting overthrown by the US, it's not internal politics you fucking dumb bastards.

It amazes me how people who I thought were smart just swallow the mainstream narrative without thinking

sooo every socialist/communist country is getting overthrown by US? The socialism itself caused all of that trouble, not everything is US fault, not this time.
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Socialism is a utopia. There is no state in which people live well with socialism or communism. Only China has demonstrated the possibility of the existence of the Communist system, but this has not led to high levels of Chinese life. And I think that everything will be destroyed.
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So much bullshit anti-Venezula propaganda

The country is getting overthrown by the US, it's not internal politics you fucking dumb bastards.

It amazes me how people who I thought were smart just swallow the mainstream narrative without thinking

sooo every socialist/communist country is getting overthrown by US? The socialism itself caused all of that trouble, not everything is US fault, not this time.

No dummie, the state of Venezula in particular is getting overthrown by the US. If you ever read outside the Western media bubble you might realize not all the information you are force fed is correct.

Its the same with North Korea. All you clueless salivating shitheads actually think NK is a viable threat on its own, independent of Chinese support.


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August 01, 2017, 09:38:37 PM
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So much bullshit anti-Venezula propaganda

The country is getting overthrown by the US, it's not internal politics you fucking dumb bastards.

It amazes me how people who I thought were smart just swallow the mainstream narrative without thinking

sooo every socialist/communist country is getting overthrown by US? The socialism itself caused all of that trouble, not everything is US fault, not this time.

No dummie, the state of Venezula in particular is getting overthrown by the US. If you ever read outside the Western media bubble you might realize not all the information you are force fed is correct.

Its the same with North Korea. All you clueless salivating shitheads actually think NK is a viable threat on its own, independent of Chinese support.




Every country is evil beside Vené NK & Co...

Interesting viewpoint. Soon enough Maduro will sell his citizens as meat for export to NK...


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So much bullshit anti-Venezula propaganda

The country is getting overthrown by the US, it's not internal politics you fucking dumb bastards.

It amazes me how people who I thought were smart just swallow the mainstream narrative without thinking

sooo every socialist/communist country is getting overthrown by US? The socialism itself caused all of that trouble, not everything is US fault, not this time.

No dummie, the state of Venezula in particular is getting overthrown by the US. If you ever read outside the Western media bubble you might realize not all the information you are force fed is correct.

Its the same with North Korea. All you clueless salivating shitheads actually think NK is a viable threat on its own, independent of Chinese support.



I agree partly with you. The Americans needs to stay the fuck out of Venezuela, North Korea, and the other third world countries. What is going on in Venezuela right now is the internal affairs of that country. The Venezuelans don't need American support to take care of that.

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So much bullshit anti-Venezula propaganda

The country is getting overthrown by the US, it's not internal politics you fucking dumb bastards.

It amazes me how people who I thought were smart just swallow the mainstream narrative without thinking

sooo every socialist/communist country is getting overthrown by US? The socialism itself caused all of that trouble, not everything is US fault, not this time.

No dummie, the state of Venezula in particular is getting overthrown by the US. If you ever read outside the Western media bubble you might realize not all the information you are force fed is correct.

Its the same with North Korea. All you clueless salivating shitheads actually think NK is a viable threat on its own, independent of Chinese support.



I agree partly with you. The Americans needs to stay the fuck out of Venezuela, North Korea, and the other third world countries. What is going on in Venezuela right now is the internal affairs of that country. The Venezuelans don't need American support to take care of that.

the state in Venezuela is the state that every socialist/communist countries end up in. I'm not reading western mainstream media, but that doesn't change the fact that every socialist/communist country ends up just as Venezuela is now.
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August 03, 2017, 12:11:31 AM
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So much bullshit anti-Venezula propaganda

The country is getting overthrown by the US, it's not internal politics you fucking dumb bastards.

It amazes me how people who I thought were smart just swallow the mainstream narrative without thinking

sooo every socialist/communist country is getting overthrown by US? The socialism itself caused all of that trouble, not everything is US fault, not this time.

No dummie, the state of Venezula in particular is getting overthrown by the US. If you ever read outside the Western media bubble you might realize not all the information you are force fed is correct.

Its the same with North Korea. All you clueless salivating shitheads actually think NK is a viable threat on its own, independent of Chinese support.



I agree partly with you. The Americans needs to stay the fuck out of Venezuela, North Korea, and the other third world countries. What is going on in Venezuela right now is the internal affairs of that country. The Venezuelans don't need American support to take care of that.

the state in Venezuela is the state that every socialist/communist countries end up in. I'm not reading western mainstream media, but that doesn't change the fact that every socialist/communist country ends up just as Venezuela is now.

Socialists love to play the rich on the misery they create, then blame others while enjoying putas and caviar.

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