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August 30, 2017, 12:02:55 AM
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the state in Venezuela is the state that every socialist/communist countries end up in. I'm not reading western mainstream media, but that doesn't change the fact that every socialist/communist country ends up just as Venezuela is now.

But that doesn't take away the fact that the Venezuelans voted for the Socialist Party. Before Chavez became the president there, more than 70% of the Venezuelans lived in poverty. Chavez reduced it to around 30%. So obviously, a large part of the population benefited from socialism, at least initially during the regime of Hugo Chavez.
In some rare cases socialism can be very good because the leaders are generous people who care about the lives of their own people.but it's a fact that when power goes into the head of people they tend to act differently and oppress the people the seem to care about.

Could this be the same case for a King or Queen?

In some rare cases a tyrant can be very good because the leader is a generous man who cares about the lives of the people he owns. But it's a fact that when God turns against the Tyrant and people start dying  (the black death), the power goes into the hand of the people, they tend to act differently and go after the tyrant, who said  he would protect and take care of them, thanks to his tough love...


Yep, The same... with the extra bonus of not providing one example of a socialist state that was good for the people, and use that example as a perfect case.

So extremely rare, as in nonexistent...




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August 30, 2017, 01:42:39 AM
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Could this be the same case for a King or Queen?

In some rare cases a tyrant can be very good because the leader is a generous man who cares about the lives of the people he owns. But it's a fact that when God turns against the Tyrant and people start dying  (the black death), the power goes into the hand of the people, they tend to act differently and go after the tyrant, who said  he would protect and take care of them, thanks to his tough love...


Yep, The same... with the extra bonus of not providing one example of a socialist state that was good for the people, and use that example as a perfect case.

So extremely rare, as in nonexistent...

There are a few examples. Look at Saudi Arabia. When the oil prices were high, the king was giving handouts to the Saudi nationals almost every day. But now the oil prices have fallen, and the handouts have stopped. The people are not happy now.

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August 30, 2017, 03:41:06 PM
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Could this be the same case for a King or Queen?

In some rare cases a tyrant can be very good because the leader is a generous man who cares about the lives of the people he owns. But it's a fact that when God turns against the Tyrant and people start dying  (the black death), the power goes into the hand of the people, they tend to act differently and go after the tyrant, who said  he would protect and take care of them, thanks to his tough love...


Yep, The same... with the extra bonus of not providing one example of a socialist state that was good for the people, and use that example as a perfect case.

So extremely rare, as in nonexistent...

There are a few examples. Look at Saudi Arabia. When the oil prices were high, the king was giving handouts to the Saudi nationals almost every day. But now the oil prices have fallen, and the handouts have stopped. The people are not happy now.

Yes. I agree as Saudi Arabia is a kingdom. I have yet to see a socialist state though, recognized as such with no opportunity for the lame "this failed state wasn't truly socialism, but the next one will" excuse not fail. There are no rare occasions of that not happening in the past since the creation of mankind. Non existent. A socialist state always ends up in massive failure because reality is incompatible with the socialist reality.



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July 13, 2018, 07:56:04 PM
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Venezuelans are starving, but the country still sends crude to Cuba





Venezuelan oil production is dropping rapidly and the government has no money to buy food, medicines or consumer goods, but there is one item that the socialist regime of President Nicolás Maduro seems unwilling to sacrifice under any circumstances: oil subsidies to Cuba.

News reports that a shipment of 500,000 barrels of crude was on its way this week to the port of Matanzas in northwestern Cuba sparked indignation among many in Venezuela, a country suffering under the worst economic crisis of its history.

The oil that Venezuela supplies to Cuba equals about 55,000 barrels per day and costs about $1.2 billion per year, money that could help the country curb inflation, import urgently needed medicines or provide food to the 9 million Venezuelans who say they eat only once per day.

But Maduro has made it clear that he prefers to keep supermarkets empty rather than suspend the shipments to Cuba, said Antonio De La Cruz, executive director of the Washington-based consultancy firm Inter American Trends.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article214635335.html




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July 14, 2018, 08:51:27 AM
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Why would they be sending oil to Cuba and not getting paid for it? It doesn't make sense to me?
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July 24, 2018, 04:20:34 PM
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Socialism Always Fails. Still failing since November 11, 2013, 08:23:22 AM



CARACAS, Venezuela -- Economists say inflation in Venezuela could top an astounding 1 million percent by year's end as the country's historic crisis deepens. The International Monetary Fund predicted the decline Monday.

The once wealthy oil-producing nation of Venezuela is in the grips of a five-year crisis that leaves many of its people struggling to find food and medicine, while driving masses across the border for relief into neighboring Colombia and Brazil.

Shortages in electricity, domestic water and public transportation plague millions of Venezuelans, who also confront high crime, the IMF noted.

Socialist President Nicolas Maduro often blames Venezuela's poor economy on an economic war that he says is being waged by the U.S. and Europe.

IMF economist Alejandro Werner says that if the prediction holds, Venezuela's economy will contract by 50 percent over five years.

Werner says it would be among the world's deepest economic falls in six decades.

"The collapse in economic activity, hyperinflation, and increasing deterioration ... will lead to intensifying spillover effects on neighboring countries," Werner wrote in a blog post.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venezuelas-inflation-on-track-to-top-1-million-percent-imf-says/


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July 30, 2018, 03:16:03 PM
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Venezuelans Slaughter Donkeys For Food




A road sign warns of possible burro crossings in the Venezuelan area of Paraguana. The burros are disappearing in the area as more and more hungry Venezuelans are slaughtering them for meals.



A few years ago, there were so many donkeys, or burros, in the Venezuelan state of Falcón that they were a problem — herds everywhere, causing highway crashes and blocking airport runways.

But over the past three years, the herds have shrunk dramatically as thousands of burros have been slaughtered for their meat by Venezuelans suffering through a near-famine.

“There’s no more burros here,” said Odalys Martinez, a resident of the Paraguana Peninsula in northern Falcón.

The collapse of the Venezuelan economy is radically changing the eating habits in the oil-producing country, where large sectors of the population are being forced to pick through garbage and slaughter domestic animals to sate their hunger.

The burros’ disappearance in Falcón has set off alarms among authorities in the state, where it had prospered after it was declared a protected species and was used by residents only to carry cargo or to plow agricultural lands.

“From 2015 to today, 2018, the burros disappeared,” said opposition parliament deputy Eliézer Sirit.

His fellow deputy, Luis Stefaneli, said burro was not part of the traditional Venezuelan diet, like in China, Spain and parts of Latin America.

The clandestine slaughter of the animals also has become a sanitary and environmental problem, Stefaneli added. There are no sanitary controls, and the burro has been disappearing from its native habitats.

The burro population was so large in Paraguana just a few years ago that it created serious security problems. The airport in the Falcon state capital, Coro, assigned a vehicle to clear the animals from the runway before all landings and takeoffs, to avoid a tragedy.

And along the isthmus that links Coro with Paraguana, 17 miles long and almost four miles wide, herds of burros sleeping or resting on the road often surprised drivers.

The 54-mile highway between Coro and Punto Fijo still has road signs with images of burros that warn “Danger, Animals on the Road.” In 2001, a legislator proposed building walls along the road to keep the animals away.

“What was a highly risky road yesterday because of the number of burros, is not dangerous any more,” said Sirit. “There are no burros. We ate them all. Total extinction.”


https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article215644840.html


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July 30, 2018, 07:14:16 PM
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Why would they be sending oil to Cuba and not getting paid for it? It doesn't make sense to me?

Same reason Russia was pouring money into Cuba.

The great communist ideal must be replenished from outside in order to continue. It cannot stand on its own.

The idea being if these countries can make communism successful in one place, then they prove that it works.

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April 02, 2019, 09:18:37 PM
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Top Venezuela court tightens noose on opposition chief Guaido


Caracas (AFP) - Venezuela's Supreme Court called Monday for Juan Guaido to be stripped of his legislative immunity, tightening the noose on the opposition chief just days after authorities announced a ban on him holding public office.

Guaido -- recognized as Venezuela's interim president by some 50 countries -- is locked in a power struggle with President Nicolas Maduro that has drawn in neighboring states as well as superpowers such as the US and Russia.

As the political battle plays out, the country has been hit by a series of devastating blackouts that have left millions without water, prompting the government to replace the country's energy minister and institute power rationing in a bid to address the outages.


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Maduro -- whose government has blamed "terrorists" for alleged attacks that have damaged the country's main hydroelectric power plant -- announced that he was Igor Gavidia Leon to replace retired general Luis Motta Dominguez as energy minister.

The new minister "is an electrical industry worker with 25 years of experience, an engineer who had many responsibilities," Maduro said.

- Electricity rationing -

On Sunday, Maduro announced 30 days of electricity rationing, after his government said it was shortening the workday and keeping schools closed due to blackouts.

The measures are a stark admission by the government that there is not enough electricity to go around, and that the power crisis is here to stay.

With no electricity, pumping stations can't work, so water service is limited.

Street lights and traffic lights go dark, pumps at fuel stations stand idle, and cell phone and internet service is non-existent.

But people try to find water wherever they can: from springs, leaky pipes, gutters, government-provided tankers and the little that flows through the Guiare River in Caracas.

"We fill up from a well near here but we don't know if its drinkable. But we're using it," said Erimar Vale, who lives in the capital.

Angel Velazquez said he bathed at work because he did not have water at home.


Maduro also acknowledged that many Venezuelans could not watch his broadcast because they had no electricity.


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Getting worse since November 11, 2013, 08:23:22 AM... Good luck for you all!



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April 07, 2019, 03:27:25 AM
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Getting worse since November 11, 2013, 08:23:22 AM... Good luck for you all!

Basically Maduro's term. Chávez dismantled democracy and its institutions, so he could "do things" faster, and it kinda worked so long as the oil prices were up and he was alive.

I clearly remember "the Daka incident" which this thread seems to be about. The big irony is the owners of that chain had strong ties with the government, and simply abused the system in place for their favor. While the chain basically bankrupted in Venezuela, they fled to Panama with all their ill gotten money and prospered over there.

Currently there is a similar chain of stores called Traki which seems to have strong ties with the de facto gov too, and also appear to have used their unfair advantage for huge profit importing things at more favorable exchange rates than 99% of the population could get, while selling it at even higher prices than abroad (just like Daka did). Unlike Daka which was mostly just home appliances, Traki also sells food and clothing, resembling more a "hypermarket". You might have seem them mentioned in this forum since they are supposed to accept crypto, including the infamous Petro...

These are private entities getting benefits from a socialist state that has restricted the market, which gives them a tremendous advantage for profit. Kinda like a "letter of marque" for monopolies sanctioned by the State that essentially ruins everybody else (including themselves).

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April 09, 2019, 03:42:47 PM
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.... the herds have shrunk dramatically as thousands of burros have been slaughtered for their meat by Venezuelans suffering through a near-famine.

“There’s no more burros here,” said Odalys Martinez, a resident of the Paraguana Peninsula in northern Falcón.....

Will crypto and bitcoin buy burro burgers?
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April 15, 2019, 03:51:35 PM
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.... the herds have shrunk dramatically as thousands of burros have been slaughtered for their meat by Venezuelans suffering through a near-famine.

“There’s no more burros here,” said Odalys Martinez, a resident of the Paraguana Peninsula in northern Falcón.....

Will crypto and bitcoin buy burro burgers?

I think I posted something about them being eaten earlier in the thread...

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/venezuela/article215644840.html



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April 15, 2019, 04:17:59 PM
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Short on electricity, food and water, Venezuelans return to religion






"Don't eat me Venezuela..."





The people of Venezuela’s largest slum were used to the blackouts that halt the flow of water, exhaust their supplies of expensive candles and fray their already thin patience.

But this would not be like any other lightless night in the hillside barrio. Amid the darkened alleyways, a strange, joyful sound emerged between the zinc-roofed homes. Tambourines jingled, maracas rattled, drums throbbed. Voices called all who could hear to salvation.

Buffeted by political and humanitarian crises, one of Latin America’s least religious countries is turning to faith. As the political stalemate between President Nicolás Maduro and opposition leader Juan Guaidó grinds into another month, and shortages of electricity, food and water reduce life to a daily struggle to survive, leaders across religious traditions are reporting a flood of worshippers, lapsed and new, searching for comfort and answers.

https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/Short-on-electricity-food-and-water-Venezuelans-13765134.php


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April 17, 2019, 01:05:47 PM
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Short on electricity, food and water, Venezuelans return to religion






"Don't eat me Venezuela..."





The people of Venezuela’s largest slum were used to the blackouts that halt the flow of water, exhaust their supplies of expensive candles and fray their already thin patience.

But this would not be like any other lightless night in the hillside barrio. Amid the darkened alleyways, a strange, joyful sound emerged between the zinc-roofed homes. Tambourines jingled, maracas rattled, drums throbbed. Voices called all who could hear to salvation.

Buffeted by political and humanitarian crises, one of Latin America’s least religious countries is turning to faith. As the political stalemate between President Nicolás Maduro and opposition leader Juan Guaidó grinds into another month, and shortages of electricity, food and water reduce life to a daily struggle to survive, leaders across religious traditions are reporting a flood of worshippers, lapsed and new, searching for comfort and answers.

https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/Short-on-electricity-food-and-water-Venezuelans-13765134.php


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the us marionettes will never safe venezuela they only will try to scam venezuelans as money earning cattle to enrich the central bankers in the usa

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April 17, 2019, 05:18:11 PM
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Short on electricity, food and water, Venezuelans return to religion




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"Don't eat me Venezuela..."[/center]





The people of Venezuela’s largest slum were used to the blackouts that halt the flow of water, exhaust their supplies of expensive candles and fray their already thin patience.

But this would not be like any other lightless night in the hillside barrio. Amid the darkened alleyways, a strange, joyful sound emerged between the zinc-roofed homes. Tambourines jingled, maracas rattled, drums throbbed. Voices called all who could hear to salvation.

Buffeted by political and humanitarian crises, one of Latin America’s least religious countries is turning to faith. As the political stalemate between President Nicolás Maduro and opposition leader Juan Guaidó grinds into another month, and shortages of electricity, food and water reduce life to a daily struggle to survive, leaders across religious traditions are reporting a flood of worshippers, lapsed and new, searching for comfort and answers.

https://www.thetelegraph.com/news/article/Short-on-electricity-food-and-water-Venezuelans-13765134.php


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the us marionettes will never safe venezuela they only will try to scam venezuelans as money earning cattle to enrich the central bankers in the usa

It is your way to admit marxists are too dumb to stand on their two feet since it is so easy for the US to ALWAYS manipulate them like puppets, forcing them to eat from (still functioning) garbage trucks in the end?

I agree with you.

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April 18, 2019, 07:28:32 PM
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Why would they be sending oil to Cuba and not getting paid for it? It doesn't make sense to me?

They are not sending the crude for free. Thousands of Cuban doctors are stationed across various Venezuelan state hospitals and the crude is being used to pay for their services. Without these doctors, huge number of Venezuelans will be denied quality medical care. Actually it is big business, but mostly hidden from the world media:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_medical_internationalism

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In 2007, Cuba has 42,000 workers in international collaborations in 103 different countries, of whom more than 30,000 are health personnel, including no fewer than 19,000 physicians

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Cuba's largest and most extensive medical aid effort is with Venezuela. The program grew out of the emergency assistance provided by Cuban doctors in the wake of the December 1999 mudslides in Vargas state, which killed 20,000 people. Under this bilateral effort, also known as the "oil for doctors" program, Cuba provides Venezuela with 31,000 Cuban doctors and dentists and provides training for 40,000 Venezuelan medical personnel. In exchange, Venezuela provides Cuba with 100,000 barrels of oil per day. Based on February 2010 prices, the oil is worth $7.5 million per day, or nearly $3 billion per year.

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