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February 19, 2014, 07:42:06 PM
Last edit: February 19, 2014, 08:10:55 PM by practicaldreamer
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You know what is cool? We are both on bitcointalk.

Yes - agreed. Hope springs eternal.

it means you may not be that evil (as long as you do not defend the NSA for all of its goodness).

I'm not evil Wilikon. Flawed ? Yes, definitely - historically women have been my weakness - but are they really a weakness at all, or a biological imperative (thats my excuse anyway) ? I don't know. I also have a penchant for classic British engineering - the like of which are long past. And kebabs. And gadgets.

But you have my word that I will never defend the actions of the NSA  Wink

[You do realise that the NSA have got Maduro's every movement tracked don't you ?  Just waiting for him to visit a dogging website - and then it will be all over the pages of the Politics and Society section of Bitcointalk/the New York Post/the Sun etc etc.]



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February 19, 2014, 08:40:26 PM
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You know what is cool? We are both on bitcointalk.

Yes - agreed. Hope springs eternal.

it means you may not be that evil (as long as you do not defend the NSA for all of its goodness).

I'm not evil Wilikon. Flawed ? Yes, definitely - historically women have been my weakness - but are they really a weakness at all, or a biological imperative (thats my excuse anyway) ? I don't know. I also have a penchant for classic British engineering - the like of which are long past. And kebabs. And gadgets.

But you have my word that I will never defend the actions of the NSA  Wink

[You do realise that the NSA have got Maduro's every movement tracked don't you ?  Just waiting for him to visit a dogging website - and then it will be all over the pages of the Politics and Society section of Bitcointalk/the New York Post/the Sun etc etc.]





I did not believe you were evil. I was just kidding. Millions of years of Evolution (if you believe the theory) made you love women. Your weakness could be if you lied to them to get them into your bed. Not the same thing as "loving women too much". But that's beyond our little thread.

My favorite Classic British Engineering creations: SSL mixing consoles , PMC and B&W studio monitors... :-)
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February 20, 2014, 04:21:08 AM
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Opposition supporter Genesis Carmona is evacuated on a motorcycle after being shot in the head during a protest against Nicolas Maduro's government in Valencia, some 100 miles (160 km) from Caracas, February 18, 2014.(Reuters / Mauricio Centeno-Notitarde )


A popular beauty queen became the fifth of six Venezuelans to die in the country’s ongoing unrest after she was shot in the head during a demonstration for imprisoned opposition leader Leopoldo Lopez.

The rallies claimed the lives of three people who were shot in Caracas, and another person who was run over by a car in the coastal town of Carupano. Genesis Carmona, a 22-year-old college student and model, succumbed on Wednesday to injuries sustained the day prior. A former beauty queen who was named Miss Tourism Carabobo 2013, Carmona was shot during a pro-Lopez demonstration in the central city of Valencia.

“How long are we going to live like this? How long do we have to tolerate pressure, with them killing us?” said one of Carmona’s relatives who wished to remain anonymous. “She only needed one more semester to graduate.”

Carmona’s Twitter feed shows that she often retweeted messages by influential members of the opposition and pointed her followers to a link that would help them get online in the event that the government cut internet access.

“Stay with the one who tells the best stories. One day they will be yours,” read one message she posted.

President Maduro, who was elected less than one year ago in what opponents said was a tainted election, acknowledged Carmona’s death on Wednesday, saying he regretted that “this young lady with the world at her feet was a victim of violence.”

http://rt.com/news/venezuela-beauty-queen-opposition-leader-820/
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February 20, 2014, 05:19:44 PM
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Just to keep things balanced here, a few links :-

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id--ZFtjR5c

  http://drdawgsblawg.ca/2014/02/constructing-venezuela-protests-a-photo-gallery.shtml

   http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/

  I don't know if anyone will take the above on board - after all, there's none so blind as those that don't want to see  Wink
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February 20, 2014, 05:36:20 PM
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Just to keep things balanced here, a few links :-

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id--ZFtjR5c

  http://drdawgsblawg.ca/2014/02/constructing-venezuela-protests-a-photo-gallery.shtml

   http://rt.com/news/golinger-documents-venezuela-destabilization-299/

  I don't know if anyone will take the above on board - after all, there's none so blind as those that don't want to see  Wink

It will be up to the people reading this thread to make up their own mind indeed.
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February 21, 2014, 01:47:58 AM
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While protests sweep the streets of Venezuela, the nation's government is quietly tightening its grip on the Internet.

Last week, the government blocked its citizens from uploading and viewing pictures on Twitter. Now officials are warning that social networks are being used by "cybercriminals" to spread misinformation and support what they call a "coup."

Citizens of the Western state of Tachira reported on Thursday that the Internet was down statewide, and other activists warned that the government is slowing down connections at night, when police forces attack protesters.

Renesys, an Internet monitoring and research firm, couldn't officially confirm the outage. But Doug Madory, one of the firm's researchers, told Mashable it had seen drops in bandwidth and increases in latency that might be caused by throttling, although he couldn't be certain of the cause.

All these disruptions seem to be part of a plan to keep the population in the dark about the protests. "There is no independent media, so the national TV doesn't show that there are demonstrations around the country," Marianne Diaz Hernandez, a Venezuelan activists who founded AccesoLibre, an Internet freedom advocacy group, told Mashable.

"There's part of the country that doesn't have any idea what's going on, and another that goes online and looks for information on social networks."

The government has the legal power to block websites it deems as a threat to national security, or sites that show independent or opposing views, according to a report by the watchdog group Freedom House. This censorship powers have been seldom used, but the government seems more willing to censor websites around big political events such as the April 2013 elections, held after the death of former president Hugo Chavez.

Venezuelan government agencies didn't respond to Mashable's requests for comment.

Diaz Hernandez is collecting reports of blocked websites through Herdict, a crowd-sourcing tool that allows users to flag websites that they cannot access. Diaz Hernandez warned that the results are not comprehensive yet, but several Venezuelan Internet users reported the blocking of Twitter, Facebook and the news site La Patilla. A graphic of the partial results of her survey can be seen here.

The government's censorship power is helped by the near-monopoly of CANTV, the state-owned Internet provider, which controls more than half broadband connections in Venezuela, according to Freedom House. By controlling the main Internet provider, the government can simply order CANTV to shut down all Internet service — as it did for 30 minutes during the April 2013 elections — or strategically block certain websites.

"The government doesn't necessarily have a kill switch," Andres Azpurua, the director of Venezuela Inteligente, a
freedom of information organization that promotes transparency, told Mashable. "But it doesn't need it."

Activists like Diaz Hernandez and Azpurua are trying to fight back, promoting the use of Virtual Private Networks (VPN) or Tor to circumvent censorship. Commercial VPN companies such as TunnelBear and Hotspot Shield have contributed by offering their software free of charge to Venezuelans.

Thanks to two laws that regulated online media, passed in 2010, the government can also request independent ISPs to block certain websites and impose high fines if they refuse.

Until recently, blocking wasn't the preferred weapon in the government's online arsenal. President Nicolas Maduro said last year that "if lies come through Twitter, we are going to strike back through Twitter."

That led to a group of paid government online commentators who spread official propaganda, harass critics on Twitter, and attempt to steer the online conversation. The government called this campaign the "Communication Guerrilla," when it launched in 2010.

Several officials have recently warned of opposition "disinformation" being spread on Twitter. Delcy Rodriguez, the country's Communications and Information Minister, tweeted that social networks are used by "violent coup leaders" to "create anguish within the population in a large scale psychological operation."

The director of CONATEL, Venezuela's National Telecommunications Commission, echoed Rodriguez in a tweet, writing: "Social networks are being invaded by cybercriminals who hijack accounts and manipulate information."

Those are the tactics activists and international experts attribute to the Maduro regime.

"Manipulation of online content by the ruling party and its supporters has compromised the atmosphere of free online debate," wrote Freedom House. "Such careful management of content has included steering conversations along pro-government lines, hacking, discrediting opposition voices via Twitter impersonations, and encouraging self-censorship."

A group of pro-government hackers, called N33, has hijacked a number of journalists' Twitter accounts. Much like the Syrian Electronic Army, N33 is said to be government-sponsored, but the hackers have denied being paid by the regime.

http://mashable.com/2014/02/20/venezuela-social-media/
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February 21, 2014, 02:50:46 AM
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February 21, 2014, 11:20:51 PM
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Moreover, it is the very poor and those of darker skin tone who have benefited most from the improvements since the election of Hugo Chavez, and it is they - by the way, the vast majority of the Venezuelan population -- who support Chavez and his successor the most. Of course, the U.S. government and its compliant media openly side with the white, wealthy elite - such as Kenyon and Harvard trained right wing leader Leopoldo Lopez -- against Venezuela's poor in their current cheer leading for the opposition. Again, the NPR story is notable in this regard.

Without irony, the media fulminates about Venezuela's alleged lack of democracy (again, ignoring Colombia's death squad violence against its own population) to justify its open support of Venezuela's elite opposition. However, as Chilean writer Pedro Santander recently put it so well:


Regarding the supposed "democratic deficit of the Venezuelan regime", the facts speak for themselves. Since 1998 there have been four national plebiscites, four presidential elections, and eleven parliamentary, regional, and municipal elections. Venezuela is the Latin American country with the highest number of elections and it also has an automatic electoral system (much more modern than Chile's one), described by Jimmy Carter, who has observed 92 elections in all continents, as "the best system in the world".



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-kovalik/in-defense-of-venezuela_b_4824494.html
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Hmm I knew sending black tanks on light skinned people, or a silver bullet through the cranium of a (white looking) top model was a coded message... Thank you hufPo
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February 24, 2014, 10:25:49 PM
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Anti-government demonstrators put up barricades and set fire to trash in Caracas on Monday despite calls from within the opposition to rein in protests that have led to 13 deaths in Venezuela's worst unrest for a decade.

Traffic in the capital slowed to a crawl and many people stayed home as protesters burned trash and piled debris along main avenues a day after opposition leader Henrique Capriles called on them to keep demonstrations peaceful.

"We know we're bothering people but we have to wake up Venezuela!" student Pablo Herrera, 23, said next to a barricade in the affluent Los Palos Grandes district of Caracas.

Authorities in the convulsed border state of Tachira confirmed another death: a man who fell from his second-storey apartment after being hit by a bullet from a nearby protest.

The demonstrations are the biggest challenge to President Nicolas Maduro's 10-month-old government, though there is no sign they could topple him or affect the OPEC member's oil shipments. Venezuela is Latin America's biggest exporter of crude oil and has the world's largest petroleum reserves.

The government says 529 people have been charged over the unrest, with most given warnings but 45 kept behind bars. About 150 people have been injured, authorities say.

Capriles, 41, spurned an invitation to meet Maduro in the afternoon as part of a gathering of mayors and governors that some had hoped would open up communications between both sides.

"This is a dying government ... I'm not going to be like the orchestra on the Titanic," he told reporters. "Miraflores (presidential palace) is not the place to talk about peace, it's the center of operations for abuses of human rights."

Capriles and other opposition figureheads are demanding that the government release imprisoned protest leader Leopoldo Lopez and about a dozen jailed student demonstrators.

They also want Maduro to disarm pro-government gangs and address national issues ranging from crime to shortages of basic goods. Hardline student protesters, though, are demanding that Maduro step down, less than a year into his term.

"If there's one thing these violent protests have done, it's unite 'Chavismo'," Maduro told state television, using the term for government supporters coined during the 14-year rule of his predecessor, Hugo Chavez.

http://news.yahoo.com/venezuela-protests-flare-anew-government-opposition-may-meet-150706861.html;_ylt=AwrBEiHtnQtTOToAivDQtDMD
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February 28, 2014, 04:53:54 PM
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(Google translate)

Three tear gas shelling made the National Guard from the Francisco Fajardo Highway to the strip of Las Mercedes.

The information was confirmed by the mayor of Baruta Gerardo Blyde, who said he sought contact the Peace and Security Minister Miguel Rodriguez Torres, to stop the attack, but it was too late.











http://www.lapatilla.com/site/2014/02/27/gnb-bombardea-desde-la-autopista-a-manifestantes-en-las-mercedes/
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March 05, 2014, 10:19:46 PM
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The government of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro announced that it was breaking diplomatic and commercial ties with Panama on Wednesday, citing the Central American country's complicity in a "conspiracy."

In strongly worded comments during a commemoration event on the anniversary of the death of the country’s late president, Hugo Chavez, Maduro derided Panama’s leadership.

"We're not going to let anyone get away with interfering with our fatherland, you despicable lackey, president of Panama,” said Maduro.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-venezuela-chavez-panama-20140305,0,5372893.story
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March 05, 2014, 10:21:49 PM
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President Nicolás Maduro ordered a military "occupation" of the company's five stores as he continues the government's crackdown on an "economic war" it says is being waged against the country, with the help of Washington.

Washington is helping, that's so nice.  Smiley

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March 05, 2014, 11:14:35 PM
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Venezuela has been using the US as a boogyman for years.

Part of their propaganda to give more power to the centralized government.


Kinda like muslims and terrorists...every government has its boogyman. Used to build power.

The US will not be far behind Venezuela on our own socialist train wreck. But I am not so confident our citizens will revolt, new plasma TVs will allow us to watch more propaganda news while sitting on our asses complaining about things.

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March 06, 2014, 01:50:52 PM
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President Nicolás Maduro ordered a military "occupation" of the company's five stores as he continues the government's crackdown on an "economic war" it says is being waged against the country, with the help of Washington.

Washington is helping, that's so nice.  Smiley
They all want to help. US is helping in Venezuela, Russia in Ukraine.

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March 06, 2014, 10:25:22 PM
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Venezuela has been using the US as a boogyman for years.


The US is the bogeyman for most of the rest of the planet Roll Eyes - Jesus, what kind of US-centric Nietzchean Superman Land of the Free 2nd Amendment propoganda bullshit have you been watching ??

Its living beyond its means and is making the rest of the world pay - and because Venezuala doesn't want to lets its people pay the price for US profligacy, the US media demonises its leaders.

Same old same old  Roll Eyes
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March 07, 2014, 07:42:51 AM
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A Venezuelan soldier and a motorcyclist died in a confused melee sparked by the opposition’s barricading of a Caracas street, officials said on Thursday, boosting the death toll from nearly a month of violence to 20.

Demonstrators have for weeks staged rallies and set up barricades to demand the resignation of President Nicolas Maduro, leading to clashes with security forces and government supporters. [...]

Maduro on Wednesday cut ties with Panama on charges the country’s president was conspiring with the United States to intervene in Venezuela’s affairs. During a rally on Thursday he gave the Panamanian ambassador and three other diplomats in Venezuela 48 hours to leave the country.

The rally also included Hollywood actor Danny Glover, a long time supporter of Venezuela’s revival of socialism who met with Maduro as part of Wednesday’s first anniversary of Chavez’s death.

“I’m very proud to be here with you as we commemorate and celebrate a true man of the people, Hugo Chavez; his memory lives with us,” Glover told a crowd of government supporters clad in signature red T-shirts.

A Venezuelan television network on Wednesday premiered U.S. filmmaker Oliver Stone’s documentary called “My Friend Hugo.”

The protests have been a mix of peaceful demonstrations by student leaders and violent exchanges between security forces and hooded protesters hurling rocks and Molotov cocktails.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/06/uk-venezuela-protests-idUKBREA2528Q20140306

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March 07, 2014, 07:57:06 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U6OfjxTPPQ

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvSuLzm3eBk

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5DuYyPrdEE

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvaz129XkOo

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoujQt_j1vo
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March 07, 2014, 11:44:36 AM
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I feel sorry for them. They waste their energy and risk their lifes for nothing.
No matter how hard they try , nothing will happen in Venezuela too soon.
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March 09, 2014, 05:04:35 PM
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Venezuelan Nat. Guard Chases Protesters Into Building, Firing Weapon Indiscriminately

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN-nZWqiTew

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Maybe the description is wrong? Could it be the other way around? Happy Maduro supporters chased down by an evil Pro US puppet?



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