Indian Sub New Moderator ? [Recommendations Welcome]

[Joel_Jantsen]

With the on-going discussions about Coinsecure's hack [An Indian exchange founded by Benson Samuel (Moderator of Indian Sub )],theymos stated

Note that I removed Benson Samuel as moderator, but only because I view the situation as potentially too much of a conflict of interest. I have no reason to doubt Benson Samuel's character.

{I do agree with theymos for a fact that Benson has nothing to do with the hack}

Anyway,it's time to find a new moderator for the Indian Sub I suppose.Not sure if theymos will consider the suggestions posted here but if you had to recommend someone to moderate the Indian sub,who it would be ? (Preferably an Indian of-course)

EDIT : This thread is for general recommendations and I'm not self promoting by any means. Additionally, I'm not interested in becoming a moderator since it's a job which requires time and quite an amount of effort which I can't commit to.

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[TMAN]

Not you.

Theultraelite maybe?

[botany]

I do think that the removal of Benson as a moderator would be temporary (until the exchange hack gets sorted out). If Coinsecure is repaying everybody with their own funds, then it gets sorted out.

If the Indian board does not get too many reports and Benson's absence is expected to be temporary, we can wait for a couple of weeks before we decide whether a new moderator is necessary.

[Joel_Jantsen]

I do think that the removal of Benson as a moderator would be temporary (until the exchange hack gets sorted out). If Coinsecure is repaying everybody with their own funds, then it gets sorted out.

Don't recollect theymos removing someone from the Staff position and hiring them back.

If the Indian board does not get too many reports and Benson's absence is expected to be temporary, we can wait for a couple of weeks before we decide whether a new moderator is necessary.

Nothing against Benson but Indian board does need a strong moderation. I've tried reporting threads in that SUB but takes forever for the reports to get handled.You may be right about waiting for two weeks but again it depends if theymos have removed them temporarily otherwise it wouldn't make a difference.

[hilariousetc]

I can't comment on the situation as to why Benson was removed, but he hasn't been active as a moderator here for quite a while and I suggested to theymos prior to this that the Indian board needed additional moderation. I would only take into consideration users who have been actively reporting though.

[Joel_Jantsen]

I can't comment on the situation as to why Benson was removed, but he hasn't been active as a moderator here for quite a while and I suggested to theymos prior to this that the Indian board needed additional moderation. I would only take into consideration users who have been actively reporting though.

Actively reporting as in ? Actively reporting generally in the forum or just in the Indian Sub ? 

[hilariousetc]

The Indian sub mostly. Not much point in making someone a moderator of a sub board if they haven't shown that they're actively patrolling that section and are willing to put in the work to make it a better place.

[Joel_Jantsen]

The Indian sub mostly. Not much point in making someone a moderator of a sub board if they haven't shown that they're actively patrolling that section and are willing to put in the work to make it a better place.

Do you have the access to get that Sub-wise report stats just like theymos posted here ? Or only Admins can do it ? Maybe those stats would be a nice entry point to sort from the bunch.

[hilariousetc]

Only theymos can gather that info. I'm sure he's looked into it already.

[allahabadi]

@hilariousetc and @joel I have to sadly agree to the proposition that the Indian section is in shambles and it was prior to the hacking and many of them have been grumbling over it too. It was needed that it should have a new moderator without delay; this is not something related to his role or his position of the exchange that got hacked; but definitely his position as a mod hasn't been good; so much so that some Indians have stopped going over tot hat section or even reporting things.

P.S. I dunno which of you is Indian or not; but I personally feel that it should be a high-ranking experienced Indian member.

[TheUltraElite]

Not you.

Theultraelite maybe?

Naah dude, I cant be a moderator for the following reasons:
1. I have a life outside this forum. Not possible for me to come everyday to this forum to mod a section.
2. I am extremely hammer-happy. I would get demodded in within a week even if I was made one. You can bet on that for sure.

But definitely not anybody like @allahabadi. Sorry to break it, if I did.

@joel_jantsen, I would say let the dust settle a bit and let theymos decide how to proceed based on the hack investigations.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Not you.

Why not, if I may ask?

[allahabadi]

Not you.

Theultraelite maybe?

Naah dude, I cant be a moderator for the following reasons:
1. I have a life outside this forum[21,000,000]. Not possible for me to come everyday to this forum to mod a section.
2. I am extremely hammer-happy. I would get demodded in within a week even if I was made one. You can bet on that for sure.

But definitely not anybody like @allahabadi. Sorry to break it, if I did.[1]

@joel_jantsen, I would say let the dust settle a bit and let theymos decide how to proceed based on the hack investigations.[2]

[1] SERIOUSLY! DID YOU EVEN THINK OF THE UNTHINKABLE? I WAS NEVER TALKING ABOUT ME.

P.S. I dunno which of you is Indian or not; but I personally feel that it should be a high-ranking experienced Indian member.

I am very much aware that Full Member ain't high-ranking nor that I am experienced, but to get a rejection even though you haven't applied is highly amusing.  It's like I'm stating that I won't ever give a loan to The UltraElite (although I'm confident that he'll never ask me for it).

[2] No; the section is in shambles and does need a new mod; not because of the hack, but because of the way it's been handled.

[21000000] Who according to you doesn't have a life outside of this forum and is suitable enough to be a moderator too?  

[apoorvlathey]

If theymos is actually looking for a moderator for the Indian Sub-board, then I would like to apply for the same.
I am an Indian and I browse through the Indian board now-and-then and report spammy posts as soon as I encounter one.

I came to know about the patrol feature today itself (by QS) and would use it irrespective of whether I get appointed as mod or not.

[hilariousetc]

I am very much aware that Full Member ain't high-ranking nor that I am experienced, but to get a rejection even though you haven't applied is highly amusing.

Xal0lex was just made a mod of the Russian board and he is only a Full Member. I think I became a mod at Full Member or at the latest Senior. I think being an established member is important but it's whether you are actually willing to put in the time and effort and to do so and in an accurate way that is the most important thing and to be an active reporter is the best way to do that currently.

Not you.

Theultraelite maybe?

Naah dude, I cant be a moderator for the following reasons:
1. I have a life outside this forum. Not possible for me to come everyday to this forum to mod a section.
2. I am extremely hammer-happy. I would get demodded in within a week even if I was made one. You can bet on that for sure.

But definitely not anybody like @allahabadi. Sorry to break it, if I did.

@joel_jantsen, I would say let the dust settle a bit and let theymos decide how to proceed based on the hack investigations.

At least you're honest.

[Joel_Jantsen]

@joel_jantsen, I would say let the dust settle a bit and let theymos decide how to proceed based on the hack investigations.

I doubt it is not just a hack but Indian forum lacks strong moderation in general.I had brought up the issue a few months back as well (unfortunately I couldn't find the thread)

If theymos is actually looking for a moderator for the Indian Sub-board, then I would like to apply for the same.
I am an Indian and I browse through the Indian board now-and-then and report spammy posts as soon as I encounter one.

The fact that you are appointing yourself doesn't seem very reliable.Don't get me wrong but you should have the other moderators/established members feel the same about you.And by established members I don't mean the accounts you suck up to. (not directed towards you but there are cases where established members will only promote accounts they're "good friends" with and not someone actually deserving )

[legendster]

If I can't recommend my own name then I'd recommend
Amitabh S

He was one of the first guys I interacted with and someone who's actually polite and incredibly knowledgeable of crypto.

-edit-

Damn I should really read up on what happened & the people involved .. just read this..

The private keys were held by CSO Amitabh Saxena and the company has filed a case against him, his response to the way in which the funds are hacked are just flimsy and i do not think Benson has anything to do with the loss and the company has ensured that they will be crediting its users, it is a really unfortunate situation and with him being removed as the moderator i hope the local board wont be a junkyard.

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If a new mod is picked, it should be someone from 2012 - 2013 era..

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Being the moderator means someone who's the defacto leader of that community, Benson is perfect for that role because he listens, he's been busy and slightly less active here but set that aside I don't think someone can actually replace him. But a second moderator to assist him? THAT surely can happen.

[Joel_Jantsen]

If I can't recommend my own name then I'd recommend
Amitabh S

Last Active : November 12, 2017, 07:24:57 PM
Crime : Stole 438 Bitcoins from an Indian exchange being the CSO of the company.No offence but are you not aware of the on-going drama with the coinsecure's hack ? Amitabh Saxena is the prime suspect as per Benson/Mohit and everybody else in the team.Plus I would want someone to be a moderator who is not just about degrees and knowledge but also dedicates time to handle reports on bitcointalk.

Being the moderator means someone who's the defacto leader of that community, Benson is perfect for that role because he listens, he's been busy and slightly less active here but set that aside I don't think someone can actually replace him. But a second moderator to assist him? THAT surely can happen.

Not necessarily.Being a moderator should only mean someone who is an active reporter,an established member of the community  and of course takes efforts to keep the forum clean.Same person being the defacto leader of the community is just an advantage.Muhammed Zakir can replace Benson any given day! Too bad he isn't active anymore.

[apoorvlathey]

If theymos is actually looking for a moderator for the Indian Sub-board, then I would like to apply for the same.
I am an Indian and I browse through the Indian board now-and-then and report spammy posts as soon as I encounter one.

The fact that you are appointing yourself doesn't seem very reliable.
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I just wanted to put my words out, and if the admin considers me worthy he may chose me, or else I would still continue with reporting posts and move on.

If I can't recommend my own name then I'd recommend
Amitabh S

He was one of the first guys I interacted with and someone who's actually polite and incredibly knowledgeable of crypto.

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Damn I should really read up on what happened & the people involved .. just read this..

The private keys were held by CSO Amitabh Saxena and the company has filed a case against him, his response to the way in which the funds are hacked are just flimsy and i do not think Benson has anything to do with the loss and the company has ensured that they will be crediting its users, it is a really unfortunate situation and with him being removed as the moderator i hope the local board wont be a junkyard.

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Glad you edited it, I was going to comment whether you were kidding or not about suggesting Amitabh S.

[botany]

If Theymos is indeed looking for a moderator of the Indian board, I would like to throw my hat in the ring as well. I may not be an established member of the community, given that I frequent most other boards as well. I have the time and I do report posts to mods frequently.

[legendster]

I may not be an established member of the community,

Are you even Indian? Can you speak Hindi? Tamil? Bengali? or anything apart from English?

Last Active : November 12, 2017, 07:24:57 PM
Crime : Stole 438 Bitcoins from an Indian exchange being the CSO ...

Yeah, I read up on the whole drama AFTER I made this post here, my bad.

Also, I haven't interacted with Zakir a lot primarily because he was active during the time I was mostly inactive on the forum, between 2014 - 17, but from what I know he too is from down south just like Benson, while there's nothing wrong with that, wouldn't it be better to look for someone who's not from the South this time?

Names like Pinwheel, Skang, American Desi comes to mind as they were pretty active and square in the early years.

Fact is, there are not many established old timers from India who are still active anymore. And its an imperative that to be an Indian mod you HAVE to be someone from India.

[TheUltraElite]

If Theymos is indeed looking for a moderator of the Indian board, I would like to throw my hat in the ring as well. I may not be an established member of the community, given that I frequent most other boards as well. I have the time and I do report posts to mods frequently.

Theymos did not make any statement that he needs a new moderator. Joel_Jansten is simply pointing out the fact that the Indian Local board need a mod, along with the recent issues at Coinsecure and Benson being busy - not being able to moderate the section.

I doubt it is not just a hack but Indian forum lacks strong moderation in general.I had brought up the issue a few months back as well (unfortunately I couldn't find the thread)

This. He claims to have brought up this context before as well. Dont get me wrong but it seems to me now that Joel is actually trying to promote their own name for the new mod taking advantage of the situation of the Coinsecure and Benson being AWOL (??)Not that I would have any objection to it. (I dont know about others though)

EDIT : This thread is for general recommendations and I'm not self promoting by any means. Additionally, I'm not interested in becoming a moderator since it's a job which requires time and quite an amount of effort which I can't commit to.

But nice of you to put it in the Disclaimer.

Fact is, there are not many established old timers from India who are still active anymore. And its an imperative that to be an Indian mod you HAVE to be someone from India.

Question is, would they be willing to reveal their nationality at all? Privacy issues?

[Joel_Jantsen]

This. He claims to have brought up this context before as well. Dont get me wrong but it seems to me now that Joel is actually trying to promote their own name for the new mod taking advantage of the situation of the Coinsecure and Benson being AWOL (??)Not that I would have any objection to it. (I dont know about others though)

How am I taking advantage of the situation ?  FYI,theymos removed Benson explicitly stating,

Note that I removed Benson Samuel as moderator, but only because I view the situation as potentially too much of a conflict of interest. I have no reason to doubt Benson Samuel's character.

which I totally agree with.Here is my post (a year back) where you could see me whining about no strict moderation in the Indian Sub : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1940691.msg19271392#msg19271392

But nice of you to put it in the Disclaimer.

Because I knew there could be cases of an ad hominem attack.

[legendster]

Question is, would they be willing to reveal their nationality at all? Privacy issues?

If they want the job, then they must. Its a position of power, they'll essentially be the face of Bitcoin in the country, just like how Benson has been for all these years.

[allahabadi]

I am very much aware that Full Member ain't high-ranking nor that I am experienced, but to get a rejection even though you haven't applied is highly amusing.

Xal0lex was just made a mod of the Russian board and he is only a Full Member. I think I became a mod at Full Member or at the latest Senior. I think being an established member is important but it's whether you are actually willing to put in the time and effort and to do so and in an accurate way that is the most important thing and to be an active reporter is the best way to do that currently.

The only thing I wanted to do by establishing those guidelines was to remove myself from the contention in a subtle way; because I know that many people believe that commenting on such threads automatically means that you are applying for it (not that I find any problem in the fact that people are applying for it directly as @apoorvalathey did; it's fine); as is quite evident by the tete between @TheUltraElite and @joel.

P.S.: @joel if you are applying for it; I've seen your posts and activities since Nov and wasn't even aware that you are an Indian; I do feel that you will be one of the suitable candidates and you do give the forum enough time.

Question is, would they be willing to reveal their nationality at all? Privacy issues?

If they want the job, then they must. Its a position of power, they'll essentially be the face of Bitcoin in the country, just like how Benson has been for all these years.

Not their nationality; but a knowledge of the local languages and attitudes is a must, I definitely don't want someone mocking the Indians in a racist manner for reporting the posts with reverence just because we have a habit of looking up to authorities or those in a position with power.

Not their nationality; but a knowledge of the local languages and attitudes is a must, I definitely don't want someone mocking the Indians in a racist manner for reporting the posts with reverence just because we have a habit of looking up to authorities or those in a position with power.

And that itself is a racist thing to assume that only Indians have a habit of looking up to the people in power or revering them. Its common with any culture across the planet, it's human nature. Although I am sure your intentions were not racially biased when you wrote that sentence.

Although I agree to what you said, but many people like to think that it's an attribute exclusive to SE Asians on this forum.

[legendster]

Not their nationality; but a knowledge of the local languages and attitudes is a must, I definitely don't want someone mocking the Indians in a racist manner for reporting the posts with reverence just because we have a habit of looking up to authorities or those in a position with power.

And that itself is a racist thing to assume that only Indians have a habit of looking up to the people in power or revering them. Its common with any culture across the planet, it's human nature. Although I am sure your intentions were not racially biased when you wrote that sentence.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Bump

[allahabadi]

Bump

Arrey koi banado yaar isse... Kaam ka launda[1] hai...

Please make him the mod; looks like a useful individual...



[1] Thought I should give a clear translation, lest Lauda-obsessors whould take it for another shitpost about her.


P.S. We can even have a voting exercise among 2-3 candidates who appear to be suitable.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Arrey koi banado yaar isse... Kaam ka launda[1] hai...

Please make him the mod; looks like a useful individual...

Haha Thanks for your compliment but like I said I wouldn't even stand close to the eligible member who actually deserve to be a MOD.I mean they should be very high in numbers when it comes to submitting reports and overall report accuracy.Secondly,I'm just not interested/responsible enough to take that position.

P.S. We can even have a voting exercise among 2-3 candidates who appear to be suitable.

Theymos hasn't acknowledged the thread yet and we have no idea what he has to say about this.Maybe he has other plans for finding a suitable Mod.

[allahabadi]

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Theymos hasn't acknowledged the thread yet and we have no idea what he has to say about this.Maybe he has other plans for finding a suitable Mod.

BUMP !

[edgycorner]

Theymos onee chan, pick a moderator already .-.
That place has turned into a garbage  :'c

[escrow.ms]

I will recommend deadley or skang if they are still active.

[edgycorner]

I will recommend deadley or skang if they are still active.

+1 for skang.That guys looks honest too.
Not sure whether he will be happy about being a mod.Seems like a man busy with his life.
If he is interested in being a mod, then I vote for him too.

[Joel_Jantsen]

I will recommend deadley or skang if they are still active.

Recommendations, if not followed by supporting points to prove they're a good fit are less likely to be considerable.As far as I'm aware, I haven't seen any of those members posting actively or never came across any threads which are inclined towards the 'well-being' of the forum.

Like I previously mentioned, we need someone who is active and know the existing issues forum suffers from.But that's just me.

[edgycorner]

I will recommend deadley or skang if they are still active.

Recommendations, if not followed by supporting points to prove they're a good fit are less likely to be considerable.As far as I'm aware, I haven't seen any of those members posting actively or never came across any threads which are inclined towards the 'well-being' of the forum.

Like I previously mentioned, we need someone who is active and know the existing issues forum suffers from.But that's just me.

Skang ain't one of signature spammer.He uses the board only for serious discussions.
The active people you are talking about , are the ones who spams the local board just to complete their weekly quota.
I have seen Skang in meetups and that man has my trust.His meetups were well organised and used to provide a good platform for serious discussions.
I dont see any reason to support any of the above user's.Just because they are active(**cough cough**campaigns**cough cough**) or they are hero/legendary doesn't make them eleigible to be a "mod".And some of them have gained trust by being an ass licker.

This is tottaly my personal opinion.I am not the one who's going to choose the mod.If you are offended then you can ignore this reply :v

[Zackgeno96]

I know few seasoned members who are capable of this position but most of them are inactive or less active at the moment. Theymos should look into this and appoint the moderator at earliest, as there is lot of cleaning required at the indian board.

[allahabadi]

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And some of them have gained trust by being an ass licker.
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Sau taka Sach bola hai !! (Well said !!)

Not pointing any fingers; but many people on this forum are like that, be it the merit or the trust system.

[deadley]

I will recommend deadley or skang if they are still active.

Recommendations, if not followed by supporting points to prove they're a good fit are less likely to be considerable.As far as I'm aware, I haven't seen any of those members posting actively or never came across any threads which are inclined towards the 'well-being' of the forum.

Like I previously mentioned, we need someone who is active and know the existing issues forum suffers from.But that's just me.

Because we are not posting much doesn't means, we are not active. I spend daily some hours in forum. I also recommend Skang too, he is also good guy and was very active with Indian crypto community.

I will recommend deadley or skang if they are still active.

Thanks Pankaj.

[Crypto_Sassy]

What about this guy as a moderator.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372359

[hilariousandco]

What about this guy as a moderator.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=372359

He probably wouldn't be a bad choice for a patroller to be honest going by the amount of copy and pasters he's found and reported. Getting tired of nuking them.

[krishnaverma]

A little bit off topic, but isn't that case solved now.

I mean last time I heard, that exchange was asking for details from investors so as to pay them back. If they have processed the payments, shouldn't the initial decision be reversed ?