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actually I personally look for a rise that come about by rising gradually and not suddenly like this. most likely, if it rises with a quick spike like this, a sudden crash always looms at every rate of its price. but, hopefully what I say is wrong and the price will continue to increase despite the very sharp spike. the rise of $ 1000 yesterday just made me shocked and happy, but what will last long? hopefully, always the natural and best gift that always received bitcoin.
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April 16, 2018, 01:22:32 PM |
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So what you mean is , theres this whale who controls and manipulates the bitcoins price just to make its investors confused and try to make their investment lost? I was thinking, maybe its not just a single guy but some organizations who profits from doing these. Whether its just the real rise or it is, for now, i just want to be happy for its value.
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April 16, 2018, 01:44:20 PM |
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I was thinking, maybe its not just a single guy but some organizations who profits from doing these.
It isn't one single entity manipulating the market. In order to steer the market up or down properly, whales operating on each main exchange pool their efforts together to book consistent global results. It can almost considered to be a whale cartel being responsible for the manipulation we are going through. I don't see anything wrong with it, but it's definitely not one single entity behind the scenes ruling this market with iron fist. Whether its just the real rise or it is, for now, i just want to be happy for its value.
It definitely did result in a sentiment change, which is a positive development, regardless of how sustainable or not sustainable current increase is. Even the mainstream media has lowered its negative tone. People gain confidence in markets when the price is increasing for a longer period of time, and if we manage to hold on to this growth, more people will pull the trigger and start buying, especially when fomo starts kicking in.
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April 16, 2018, 01:50:10 PM |
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It's possible sure. But we've seen a double bottom at around 6000, and furthermore the last drop to the 6000s stayed around there in the 6000s/7000s for a few weeks and volatility dropped, indicated that the price discovery for bitcoin's bottom was seemingly at an end. It's bottom was discovered so the price volatility dropped a bunch and it hung out there for a while. Now we are getting the boost off that bottom. This is likely the start of the inflection point from bear market to bull market. Not that is gonna go straight up, I expect it to take a couple of months to really put this floor behind Bitcoin and get back over $10k (though it could happen quicker). I think we've likely seen the end of challenging the floor in the 6000s. The rest of the year will probably be a gradual and rocky climb back to $20k.
Two months to reach $ 10,000 is a lot. I think in two months, the price will be around $ 15,000. At the end of the year we will have a price of 25-30K dollars. This year will be successful for bitcoin. The most difficult period we have experienced. Now you can relax and enjoy the flight to the moon.Spoken like someone untethered to reality. There will be many ups and downs during this flight to the moon. As the market is just starting to turn around the true upwards momentum is unlikely to start for a while. Sure bitcoin could hit $10k in the next few weeks, but it could easily drop to $8k again after that. The road will not be smooth. It will almost certainly take a lot more than two months to achieve a price sustainable over $15k. Many people in the market still think bitcoin will head lower. In fact if it did reach $15k in two months that would be a very strong sell signal in order to buy in a few thousand dollars lower on a drop from that quick rise. It will take months before a bullish sentiment totally takes over the market again. Probably the case with most people here. Those who are vocal anyway. Past performance has untethered people from reality. Bitcoin confounded even the most prudent estimations in 2017, left guys like me afraid for the crash that eventually came, and then the miserable hope of incredible and speedy recoveries. Worst thing is, it will probably come, and then they'll forget the pains of today. Sorry for the victim, no sympathy for the fool.
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April 16, 2018, 02:05:08 PM |
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actually I personally look for a rise that come about by rising gradually and not suddenly like this. most likely, if it rises with a quick spike like this, a sudden crash always looms at every rate of its price. but, hopefully what I say is wrong and the price will continue to increase despite the very sharp spike. the rise of $ 1000 yesterday just made me shocked and happy, but what will last long? hopefully, always the natural and best gift that always received bitcoin.
Well that's not always the case. Bitcoin spiked to $5k around September last year, and never actually looked back if you ignore what happened with the massive China ban hysteria. $8k is pretty low compared to what we've already once maintained, and much more so compared with what we've already reached, so I do hope we don't go lower anymore. That being said, I'm not the least bit convinced that we're out of the bear market, though I would love to be proven wrong.
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April 16, 2018, 02:38:19 PM |
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An increase is an increase no reason to be negative with what just happened.. Why does we keep ourselves from proving that it can’t possibly be another signs of bullish run.. I do invest in such signal and if it’s a trap then wait and hodl then life’s goes on..
Even if this rise won’t continue or may stop eventually.. It’s not the rise we are looking for?? Maybe.. But in this case it’s better than nothing..
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April 16, 2018, 07:00:48 PM |
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As we hope it to rise, always looking any rise like a saver but instead they seem like to a trap. Just look at one month ago what happened from any graphic, from 7200 to 9200 it was a wild process it just rised too fast then everybody believed it is real and jumped, left with a bag in lap ,it came back to 6ks. So calculate well it s the same guy again moving, it will rise then another rise then a big fall. if it rises too steep that means it not natural, if its not natural grace yourself ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) It really depends on what you're looking for, I agree that this is not the great rise in the price that many people are waiting I do not even need to look at the charts to know that, I do not see any reason why the price could pump so high so fast, will the price go any lower? Probably, but I do not see it going that much lower than 6000 dollars.
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April 16, 2018, 07:13:05 PM |
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Why does we keep ourselves from proving that it can’t possibly be another signs of bullish run.. I do invest in such signal and if it’s a trap then wait and hodl then life’s goes on..
The main thing here is that no one knows what is happening right now -- people just play the guessing game and more than that can't be done. The only thing that would make sense, is that the end of the tax season means that we may be up for another increase soon, or we have that increase priced in already due to the recent spike up. Good thing however is that the long term looks bright, so if we happen to go down again, at least make sure you use the lower price in your advantage to keep accumulating well below the $10,000 levels -- these levels won't be present for ever, so consider it to be a spring sale. Don't let yourself be that loser always regretting that you haven't bought when you still had the chance.
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April 18, 2018, 10:21:55 AM |
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As we hope it to rise, always looking any rise like a saver but instead they seem like to a trap. Just look at one month ago what happened from any graphic, from 7200 to 9200 it was a wild process it just rised too fast then everybody believed it is real and jumped, left with a bag in lap ,it came back to 6ks. So calculate well it s the same guy again moving, it will rise then another rise then a big fall. if it rises too steep that means it not natural, if its not natural grace yourself ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Yeah definitely this is not the price we were looking for, but we can wait for some more time and I am sure that the price will hit 20000 dollars in the future, and those investors who have lost their money due to low price will be able to recover their lost money. I am also waiting for good times. It will take time but to make some money needs patience.
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April 18, 2018, 10:42:57 AM |
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As we hope it to rise, always looking any rise like a saver but instead they seem like to a trap. Just look at one month ago what happened from any graphic, from 7200 to 9200 it was a wild process it just rised too fast then everybody believed it is real and jumped, left with a bag in lap ,it came back to 6ks. So calculate well it s the same guy again moving, it will rise then another rise then a big fall. if it rises too steep that means it not natural, if its not natural grace yourself ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Indeed, this is not the pump that we are waiting for that we expect a rise up that if possible will continuously sky rocketing without exemptions but these roller coaster performance is in favor of sell high and buy it low strategy in which some traders will gain a lot of it. We just hope that soon the rise that we are really looking for will going to start on this quarter as per predictions of most of the famous experts.
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April 18, 2018, 10:44:15 AM |
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It does look like some traps, but behind that., certainly still providing good opportunities for the long term and not worrying about such considerations. Of the many people certainly have their respective views and will not judge easily because there are still many things that can affect it will be more up or as before. We are already familiar with it., of course, have prepared a certain plan in holding or more directed to trading efforts.
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April 18, 2018, 10:48:36 AM |
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In my opinion yes this is not what i was waiting. My prediction was more bigger and higher levels. But thats fine if we don't drop below 6000 usd and this is a lead indicator that shows us market is growing and rising.
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April 18, 2018, 11:17:00 AM |
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It's possible sure. But we've seen a double bottom at around 6000, and furthermore the last drop to the 6000s stayed around there in the 6000s/7000s for a few weeks and volatility dropped, indicated that the price discovery for bitcoin's bottom was seemingly at an end. It's bottom was discovered so the price volatility dropped a bunch and it hung out there for a while. Now we are getting the boost off that bottom. This is likely the start of the inflection point from bear market to bull market. Not that is gonna go straight up, I expect it to take a couple of months to really put this floor behind Bitcoin and get back over $10k (though it could happen quicker). I think we've likely seen the end of challenging the floor in the 6000s. The rest of the year will probably be a gradual and rocky climb back to $20k.
I think that the price will remain constant for some time, from constant I mean that it will increase some dollars and then will decrease with the same ratio. But till the end of the year it will jump high and as high that it will reach to 25000 dollars till the end of the year. Many people are expecting the same and are waiting anxiously for good times.
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April 18, 2018, 12:50:24 PM |
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As we hope it to rise, always looking any rise like a saver but instead they seem like to a trap. Just look at one month ago what happened from any graphic, from 7200 to 9200 it was a wild process it just rised too fast then everybody believed it is real and jumped, left with a bag in lap ,it came back to 6ks. So calculate well it s the same guy again moving, it will rise then another rise then a big fall. if it rises too steep that means it not natural, if its not natural grace yourself ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) What i think is that we have passed the worse period of this year in the last quarter but now the market is again coming on to its right path and now we will not witness any such dumps until a period of year like price dropping to $6000 from $19000 but we might witness normal dips.Earlier when price was rising i also thought that it might be a trap for a normal pump and them dump situation but everything seems under control and market is turning green as all alts and btc are rising with 10-15% surge.So just stay calm and wait for the actual pump which is going to come soon and prices will reach peak level by the last of year.
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April 18, 2018, 01:32:09 PM |
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It does look like some traps, but behind that., certainly still providing good opportunities for the long term and not worrying about such considerations. Of the many people certainly have their respective views and will not judge easily because there are still many things that can affect it will be more up or as before. We are already familiar with it., of course, have prepared a certain plan in holding or more directed to trading efforts.
This is most expected by many for a bull market but the expectation as always did'nt meet. Since were already seen behind the fluctuations we must understood the flows that it might trap or the rise we are looking for may continues on pump level. Yes so whatever the market will be preparation should be made for our coins and that is holding as we can.
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April 18, 2018, 03:30:16 PM |
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As we hope it to rise, always looking any rise like a saver but instead they seem like to a trap. Just look at one month ago what happened from any graphic, from 7200 to 9200 it was a wild process it just rised too fast then everybody believed it is real and jumped, left with a bag in lap ,it came back to 6ks. So calculate well it s the same guy again moving, it will rise then another rise then a big fall. if it rises too steep that means it not natural, if its not natural grace yourself ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) You just have to be used to it and don't think too much. Obviously we don't know literally the exact thing that is happening on every trend as different people have different views and perspective about buying and selling. Current price swings behaviour will surely established a noticeable rise but on the other hand, we must expect that opposite of it might happened too. At the first place, why think of that? It will just lead for too much confusion resulting in difficulty to execute a strategy. People just have to "trust the process" on the way.
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April 18, 2018, 05:44:20 PM |
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An increase is an increase no reason to be negative with what just happened.. Why does we keep ourselves from proving that it can’t possibly be another signs of bullish run.. I do invest in such signal and if it’s a trap then wait and hodl then life’s goes on..
Even if this rise won’t continue or may stop eventually.. It’s not the rise we are looking for?? Maybe.. But in this case it’s better than nothing..
An Increase is an increase, that's true for the very short term- as after the price increased you can sell your assets in a profit, but for the long term this sudden rise is not really healthy, as it doesn't attached to any reason and because of that, it will probably bounce back soon enough. And after bouncing back, the voltality rate of bitcoin will be increased with the trust rate in the asset. For the long term- I doubt if an increase without a reason which is a result of a total speculation is good, but for the short term it's good, no doubt.
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April 18, 2018, 10:43:24 PM |
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As we hope it to rise, always looking any rise like a saver but instead they seem like to a trap. Just look at one month ago what happened from any graphic, from 7200 to 9200 it was a wild process it just rised too fast then everybody believed it is real and jumped, left with a bag in lap ,it came back to 6ks. So calculate well it s the same guy again moving, it will rise then another rise then a big fall. if it rises too steep that means it not natural, if its not natural grace yourself ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) You just have to be used to it and don't think too much. Obviously we don't know literally the exact thing that is happening on every trend as different people have different views and perspective about buying and selling. Current price swings behaviour will surely established a noticeable rise but on the other hand, we must expect that opposite of it might happened too. At the first place, why think of that? It will just lead for too much confusion resulting in difficulty to execute a strategy. People often fail because they listen to the noises rather than look for a definite signal. Those who over-complicate things end up being the losers, while those who look at simple and precise strategies end up being the winners. It's helpful to look at past movements and all, but thinking that it will fall of at the exact same pattern clouds one's judgment and might lead to bad calls. That's why I don't employ the use of telegram channels that claims to give off positive 'signals'.. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) People just have to "trust the process" on the way.
Which is kinda scary since you have no control over such a thing. They can screw you up without you even knowing because you are "trusting the process" too much.
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April 18, 2018, 11:30:52 PM |
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An increase is an increase no reason to be negative with what just happened.. Why does we keep ourselves from proving that it can’t possibly be another signs of bullish run.. I do invest in such signal and if it’s a trap then wait and hodl then life’s goes on..
Even if this rise won’t continue or may stop eventually.. It’s not the rise we are looking for?? Maybe.. But in this case it’s better than nothing..
An Increase is an increase, that's true for the very short term- as after the price increased you can sell your assets in a profit, but for the long term this sudden rise is not really healthy, as it doesn't attached to any reason and because of that, it will probably bounce back soon enough. And after bouncing back, the voltality rate of bitcoin will be increased with the trust rate in the asset. For the long term- I doubt if an increase without a reason which is a result of a total speculation is good, but for the short term it's good, no doubt. I guess many are just bitter because probably they don't know the real story and about bitcoin just because they always hear bad situation about bitcoin. What's good in it is that the more the put issues on bitcoin the more people get intrigued on it and popularity arise to mass media. I'm not looking for it to rise that fast,I know time is always important so I'm always looking forward to have full and stable patience with me. I can wait for it to rise, no worries with it. It takes time to rise.
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April 18, 2018, 11:37:02 PM |
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In my opinion yes this is not what i was waiting. My prediction was more bigger and higher levels. But thats fine if we don't drop below 6000 usd and this is a lead indicator that shows us market is growing and rising.
We expect more about cryptomarket especially with bitcoin but we must also understand the time, this market will not go high within a day, it will take more time. I'm happy to see cryptos to be stable on their current price, waiting for some higher signal.
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