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April 16, 2018, 09:45:31 PM
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Wanna see people's predictions for the next bull run.

When will it begin, how high will it go, and when will it end resulting in the next major crash?

Bull run here I'm talking about when the price is at an ATH and starts pumping in dramatic fashion, and the bull run ends when it experiences a major lasting crash. For example, last bull run basically started May 1st when bitcoin started pumping from around $1300/1400 and started shooting up hundreds of dollars. And it ended mid-December, the previous crashes last year were shorter corrections during the bull run.


So basically once it breaks $20k and at some time after starts going crazy with a new hype phase, when do you think that'll begin, how high will it go, and when will it end to start the next major crash?


My prediction:

$20k+     -> $70k
Dec 2018 -> Aug 2019
In my opinion the next bull run is going to start will start until the middle of the next year and I think will goes something close to 40,000 to 50,000 dollars and then it will crash to a price close to 20,000 dollars so in my opinion this is the perfect time to begin to buy bitcoin before the next bull run the best thing is that you have a lot of time before that happens.
Now bitcoin price has taken the step and it is expected that it will now continue increasing tell the end of the year 2018, it is expected that at the end of 2018 the bitcoin price will be trading above 50000$ and therefore we can expect that bitcoin price will continue increasing its price through the whole year.
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April 16, 2018, 10:05:15 PM
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Well... To be honest, i think that it is not going to happen anytime soon, we are just seeing a "trailer" of what the bull run is gonna be.

I think that if we are gonna see another x2 in a short term, it will be after August, or September.. That is my final bet.

Or maybe on December, like last year.



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April 16, 2018, 11:56:22 PM
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Well... To be honest, i think that it is not going to happen anytime soon, we are just seeing a "trailer" of what the bull run is gonna be.

I think that if we are gonna see another x2 in a short term, it will be after August, or September.. That is my final bet.

Or maybe on December, like last year.

In last quarter might see it, for now many still in doubt that bitcoin can do it now that's why when it arise even a little they sell it already, those who will put more patience aiming for bull run needs to wait a little longer.


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April 18, 2018, 06:42:53 PM
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I expected that you would say exactly that. The Mt. Gox debacle is also history now. The price had gone down more than 5 times back in the day, so why not talk about that as well? And let's hope it is actually history by now. Other than that, I for one don't see much sense in so wild speculations. If it gives you some comfort, then more power to you, of course, but don't forget that before we reach 70k tomorrow or even 70M in a couple years for that matter, we still should break plenty of resistance which sits at or around some measly 10k right now.

So basically you just don't want other people to talk about predictions. Why even bother reading and commenting on posts about predictions? You don't like them, just ignore them. Most people like predicting things so its a fun thing discuss. As I didn't make a prediction thread about how far the price is going to go down....because that JUST happened. There's nothing to predict there. People were predicting how far it would go down the past few months. And now that is history too, so there is nothing to predict in that regards. Seriously, if you don't like reading about people talking about the future of bitcoin's price, just don't bother reading it. There's no reason to comment just to complain about how you don't like predictions.

It is not a prediction, it is a wild speculation bordering on wishful thinking as I already said. And yes, I don't want people to talk about that like that as there are a lot of newbies around here who can take these talks seriously and then suffer severe losses just because someone was kinda predicting Bitcoin prices of 70k at bitcointalk. You may indeed say that everyone for himself after all but that you should have said in the OP as a sort of disclaimer. And while I basically agree with this last point, it is not what Bitcoin needs right now. It doesn't need more losers.


The topic of the thread says "predictions". And that's exactly what these are. No disclaimer needed. Everyone knows what the word prediction means. Seriously stop commenting on a prediction thread just to complain that you don't like predictions. You're just wasting space.
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April 18, 2018, 06:59:04 PM
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In one of my comments I wrote that next top can be at 200k dollars. I made interesting calculation, in 2013 happened top at 1200 dollars and drop to 200 dollars, remember drop for 6 times and later rise to 20k dollars. That was 100 times rise. Now in 2018 we have drop again and this time to bottom at 5k, imagine next run and at least 20 times higher price, but I believe it will be 50 times higher and that is more then 200k.
I don't think it will happen this year, after halving in 2020 so maybe in 2021. Maybe that will happen faster, like in the end of this year or maybe next one, but I doubt it. Price will rise but only after 2021 I expect this huge bull run and price with 5 digits. With price we never know, my prediction is based on years here, watching price moving and what people talk. I believe in my prediction like 70-30.

Yup it sure was a 100x rise from the bottom of the last crash to the height of the last boom. Pretty crazy. If this crash has bottomed out it did so at roughly $6k, or as you say (more roughly) $5k. With the amount of money in the marketplace now I don't think we're gonna have a single bull run gain anywhere near 50x from the last bottom. I could see eventually $200k maybe 5+ years from now after maybe three more boom/bust cycles. I think a 10-20x from the $6k bottom is more likely, conservatively I'm predicting it to be closer to 10x. You have to remember the bottom this time at $6k is 30x higher than the last bottom at $200. So it takes 30x more money demand to move by the same percentage, and you're saying its gonna move (200k/6k=33.3x) at least a third as much as it did last time, despite it being 30x harder.
Now obviously a lot more money will flow in next time as the audience expands exponentially and institutional investors likely hop on board with many times more money, but still 10x or maybe 15x feels like a more likely situation for the next boom since its 30x harder to move the market now.

Though I wouldn't be complaining if it went a lot higher! If Bitcoin even gets close to $100k I'll have hit my life financial goals so that'd be great to happen in the next 1.5-3 years!  Grin
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April 19, 2018, 03:30:32 AM
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In one of my comments I wrote that next top can be at 200k dollars. I made interesting calculation, in 2013 happened top at 1200 dollars and drop to 200 dollars, remember drop for 6 times and later rise to 20k dollars. That was 100 times rise. Now in 2018 we have drop again and this time to bottom at 5k, imagine next run and at least 20 times higher price, but I believe it will be 50 times higher and that is more then 200k.
I don't think it will happen this year, after halving in 2020 so maybe in 2021. Maybe that will happen faster, like in the end of this year or maybe next one, but I doubt it. Price will rise but only after 2021 I expect this huge bull run and price with 5 digits. With price we never know, my prediction is based on years here, watching price moving and what people talk. I believe in my prediction like 70-30.

Yup it sure was a 100x rise from the bottom of the last crash to the height of the last boom. Pretty crazy. If this crash has bottomed out it did so at roughly $6k, or as you say (more roughly) $5k. With the amount of money in the marketplace now I don't think we're gonna have a single bull run gain anywhere near 50x from the last bottom. I could see eventually $200k maybe 5+ years from now after maybe three more boom/bust cycles. I think a 10-20x from the $6k bottom is more likely, conservatively I'm predicting it to be closer to 10x. You have to remember the bottom this time at $6k is 30x higher than the last bottom at $200. So it takes 30x more money demand to move by the same percentage, and you're saying its gonna move (200k/6k=33.3x) at least a third as much as it did last time, despite it being 30x harder.
Now obviously a lot more money will flow in next time as the audience expands exponentially and institutional investors likely hop on board with many times more money, but still 10x or maybe 15x feels like a more likely situation for the next boom since its 30x harder to move the market now.

Though I wouldn't be complaining if it went a lot higher! If Bitcoin even gets close to $100k I'll have hit my life financial goals so that'd be great to happen in the next 1.5-3 years!  Grin

Each of us have different opinion. Many times underestimated bitcoin strength, this time I made some bold predictions and we will see what will happen. Your prediction sounds more realistic then mine, and before two years I always tried to be humble as possible but after I so how quick price raised from 1k to 20k dollars I know everything is possible with bitcoin.
Time will tell who was more close with all of our predictions. I know now that with bitcoin is hard to make any realistic predictions, every time I tried that I was wrong, price surprised me with its rise. We will see what will happen, let's remember our predictions and see who was right, we can even place some little bet for that.

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April 19, 2018, 06:11:37 AM
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With the amount of money in the marketplace now I don't think we're gonna have a single bull run gain anywhere near 50x from the last bottom. I could see eventually $200k maybe 5+ years from now after maybe three more boom/bust cycles.

that is true only if you think bitcoin is going to stay stationary and have no more adoption from now on! but what you are missing is that less than 0.5% of the world are involved with bitcoin and a very small percentage are even aware of bitcoin.
we are talking about adoption here not the money that already exists in the "marketplace". and adoption is something that is growing and sometimes there is some kind of hype like last year and it shoots up and takes the price up with it like that.
this will only become bigger as times goes by, that is why the chart of it should look like an S curve.

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Though I wouldn't be complaining if it went a lot higher! If Bitcoin even gets close to $100k I'll have hit my life financial goals so that'd be great to happen in the next 1.5-3 years!  Grin

the only way for that to happen is that you hold on to whatever amount of bitcoin you have. but can you or will you do it? most people can't stand the pressure and sell.

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April 19, 2018, 04:10:04 PM
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So basically once it breaks $20k and at some time after starts going crazy with a new hype phase, when do you think that'll begin, how high will it go, and when will it end to start the next major crash?


My prediction:

$20k+     -> $70k
Dec 2018 -> Aug 2019

Hmm, I see that you are very optimistic about the future price of bitcoin, but $ 70k for 2019 seems very high, but we will see how things go, as we have many countries imposing regulations and many banks are campaigning against bitcoin so this year will be a very difficult year for bitcoin

My prediction:

$18k to  $35k
September 2018 to  December 2019

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April 19, 2018, 04:53:13 PM
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With the amount of money in the marketplace now I don't think we're gonna have a single bull run gain anywhere near 50x from the last bottom. I could see eventually $200k maybe 5+ years from now after maybe three more boom/bust cycles.

that is true only if you think bitcoin is going to stay stationary and have no more adoption from now on! but what you are missing is that less than 0.5% of the world are involved with bitcoin and a very small percentage are even aware of bitcoin.
we are talking about adoption here not the money that already exists in the "marketplace". and adoption is something that is growing and sometimes there is some kind of hype like last year and it shoots up and takes the price up with it like that.
this will only become bigger as times goes by, that is why the chart of it should look like an S curve.

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Though I wouldn't be complaining if it went a lot higher! If Bitcoin even gets close to $100k I'll have hit my life financial goals so that'd be great to happen in the next 1.5-3 years!  Grin

the only way for that to happen is that you hold on to whatever amount of bitcoin you have. but can you or will you do it? most people can't stand the pressure and sell.


Well nowhere did I say that bitcoin will stay stationary. But the booms get less and less as more money comes in. Yes very likely much more money and people will come into the bitcoin ecosystem on the next boom than in the 2017 boom, but the marketcap is many times higher than it was before, which means much more money/people coming in will have a much less percentage effect on the price. I explained this in my other comment. If the same amount of money that took Bitcoin up 100x from $200 to $20k enters the market it will only double the price - well it depends on the supply, but assuming for simplicity sake the same supply, then this is true. Of course Bitcoin will go way way higher (most likely) but it can no longer increase by 100x in a 2 or 3 years. The S-curve refers to user adoption. The thing is, once you hit 1% of user adoption, you can only 100x from there (not counting people continuing to buy more), but the ride from say .0001% to 1% was a 1000x increase. Basically the raw numbers will increase more than ever, but the percentage gains will slow down. So that's why a 10x-20x boom in the next year or two is far more likely than a 50x boom.

And of course I will hold. I will hold until the price gets to the point where I am roughly hitting my lifetime financial goals and then I will start selling, leaving some for even longer term in case the price goes all the way way up into the 6 digits.
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April 20, 2018, 02:05:28 AM
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My predictions are close to yours. I think that the price can easily reach $20k by the next January - February.. And we can easily touch more than $50k in 20 months from now, probably a little bit more than that.

But yeah, i am still very optimistic about how the price is going to be developing during the next months.
$20k+     -> $70k
Dec 2018 -> Aug 2019
While I am not that optimistic I still think we're going to see a bull market but no so soon I really think that we are experiencing something very similar to the last crash of bitcoin and to me it is going to take a few years before we see the price of 20000 once again, probably until 2020 or 2021 but after we reach that price I think there is a huge potential of seeing 40000 or even 50000.

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April 20, 2018, 02:50:19 AM
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Why are people interested in predictions? Are you so addicted to hear the positive news? You have many times faced the fact that all predictions is only an attempt to guess the behavior of bitcoin and nothing more. Even if you assume that you will know the future of bitcoin you will not be able to change its future.

Because it's fun.
It's fun to imagine and it's fun to revisit to see who was eerily right and who was laughably wrong.
I particularly enjoy being proven miserably wrong. I think my prediction in 2015 for 2017's high was $263.43 as I always like to under promise and over deliver.
Strongly agree with you, predict what will happen in the future is a joke, moreover we are predict bitcoin price that we cannot just set up. Because to predict the price of bitcoin there is no exact science, which certainly if there are some regulations that come then the price will rise and otherwise. Most of us are predicting bitcoin prices in the future is using hope, because it's not the specialty science that set it.


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April 20, 2018, 02:57:48 AM
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Wanna see people's predictions for the next bull run.

When will it begin, how high will it go, and when will it end resulting in the next major crash?

Bull run here I'm talking about when the price is at an ATH and starts pumping in dramatic fashion, and the bull run ends when it experiences a major lasting crash. For example, last bull run basically started May 1st when bitcoin started pumping from around $1300/1400 and started shooting up hundreds of dollars. And it ended mid-December, the previous crashes last year were shorter corrections during the bull run.


So basically once it breaks $20k and at some time after starts going crazy with a new hype phase, when do you think that'll begin, how high will it go, and when will it end to start the next major crash?


My prediction:

$20k+     -> $70k
Dec 2018 -> Aug 2019

Your prediction of up to 70k is quite impossible for me, it is very high and could lead to abrupt fall and market crash..investors might get their hope as and would loose it in a short span of time..if it does goes up to that price value i would say that it is just definitely a hype and would break many hearts of new investor if they are not careful enough...

I think and predict that it will be more likely to reach 20k  to 25k this year by November to December..

Nevertheless I wish that your prediction will come true a higher price Value is always better than less😊
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April 20, 2018, 12:32:01 PM
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Why are people interested in predictions? Are you so addicted to hear the positive news? You have many times faced the fact that all predictions is only an attempt to guess the behavior of bitcoin and nothing more. Even if you assume that you will know the future of bitcoin you will not be able to change its future.

Because it's fun.
It's fun to imagine and it's fun to revisit to see who was eerily right and who was laughably wrong.
I particularly enjoy being proven miserably wrong. I think my prediction in 2015 for 2017's high was $263.43 as I always like to under promise and over deliver.
Strongly agree with you, predict what will happen in the future is a joke, moreover we are predict bitcoin price that we cannot just set up. Because to predict the price of bitcoin there is no exact science, which certainly if there are some regulations that come then the price will rise and otherwise. Most of us are predicting bitcoin prices in the future is using hope, because it's not the specialty science that set it.



We we all know that these predictions are pretty much useless since btc movements are almost impossible to predict. Bear and bull seasons are a cycle for crypto though it's very hard to know when and a lot of predictions from so called "experts" only managed to crush people's hopes

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April 20, 2018, 01:03:15 PM
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Predictions are stupid. No one knows what the behavior of bitcoin will be. One thing is for sure. The popularity of bitcoins will increase and it will push the price up. But large speculators will always be tempted to make money on volatility. Therefore, UPS and downs will always be. The higher the bitcoin price, the greater the amplitude of fluctuations.
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April 20, 2018, 07:35:36 PM
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Wanna see people's predictions for the next bull run.

When will it begin, how high will it go, and when will it end resulting in the next major crash?

Bull run here I'm talking about when the price is at an ATH and starts pumping in dramatic fashion, and the bull run ends when it experiences a major lasting crash. For example, last bull run basically started May 1st when bitcoin started pumping from around $1300/1400 and started shooting up hundreds of dollars. And it ended mid-December, the previous crashes last year were shorter corrections during the bull run.


So basically once it breaks $20k and at some time after starts going crazy with a new hype phase, when do you think that'll begin, how high will it go, and when will it end to start the next major crash?


My prediction:

$20k+     -> $70k
Dec 2018 -> Aug 2019

Your prediction of up to 70k is quite impossible for me, it is very high and could lead to abrupt fall and market crash..investors might get their hope as and would loose it in a short span of time..if it does goes up to that price value i would say that it is just definitely a hype and would break many hearts of new investor if they are not careful enough...

I think and predict that it will be more likely to reach 20k  to 25k this year by November to December..

Nevertheless I wish that your prediction will come true a higher price Value is always better than less😊


Well yeah of course the next bull run will lead to another crash. That's the way Bitcoin's price works. Booms and busts. Won't be any different next time.
Well we agree it'll be around $20k-$25k end of this year, but that's just leading up to the next bull run, like what happened last year before May. I'm asking how high will it go after that, once things get crazy again. Like I said, I'm thinking in the $70k range before then next big crash.
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April 20, 2018, 07:53:57 PM
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Like I said, I'm thinking in the $70k range before then next big crash.

If we take various events in consideration, then I don't have any doubts about the price to break through the $50,000 level before the block halving. It's a conservative estimate, but better that than being extremely bullish like how a lot people here tend to be. Everything that we manage to stack on top of that $50,000 level is a massive bonus for me, and so should it be for others. People calculate everything nowadays based on continuous gains, but what if we go through a flat year? It's not impossible and for that reason something I am not discarding. Markets based on supply and demand, even with how much demand there is for Bitcoin long term speaking, can't and won't increase every year. We'll see what happens....
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April 22, 2018, 12:39:34 PM
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I know that bitcoin's fluctuation is a volatile, the normal thing that happens in cryptos but bitcoin is so different because when it makes a move of coming back from dullness, it will become easily forgotten because everyone who patiently waiting receives the unforgettable reward from it. So if it is possible that bitcoin will hit 70$ thousands that is a more than enough favor to all.
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April 22, 2018, 01:03:50 PM
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My prediction is that it will be a great move even if bitcoin price crosses 10,000 dollars.I think that it would be very hard for bitcoin to cross its previous ATH price of almost 20,000 dollars.

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April 22, 2018, 01:57:49 PM
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My prediction is that it will be a great move even if bitcoin price crosses 10,000 dollars.I think that it would be very hard for bitcoin to cross its previous ATH price of almost 20,000 dollars.
It will be better if it will not arise that much for us to be able to see a much stable price than a too hype amount that results only to dump too low.

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April 22, 2018, 02:29:07 PM
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Predictions are stupid. No one knows what the behavior of bitcoin will be. One thing is for sure. The popularity of bitcoins will increase and it will push the price up. But large speculators will always be tempted to make money on volatility. Therefore, UPS and downs will always be. The higher the bitcoin price, the greater the amplitude of fluctuations.

Only if you can predict through different charts and know the macro economics and world markets it becomes easy to predict the future course which can help you to atleast know when to buy or sell and thus help you to atleast be on the right trend of the market .

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