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April 18, 2018, 05:53:35 PM
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Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

Sure man, that's why there are countless churches of atheism where we go to every Sunday to worship and read from the atheist bible Cheesy Hey let me call up my buddies from Atheists Anonymous and ask them, how believing in one deity less than the average Christian makes us a religion lol
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April 18, 2018, 06:44:49 PM
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Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

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So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

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April 19, 2018, 03:03:47 AM
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Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

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So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

I think he is saying that atheists are religiously pointing out the logical fallacies in ALL religions.

That is why he is calling it a religion.  In his world view being dedicated to something makes you religious.

His IQ is around 80-85 in my estimation.  He is convinced that the world is 6000 years old so I would not worry that he calls atheism a religion.

The guy is reading from one book; and he did not read it all the way to the end.  If he did, he would be an atheist.



You still don't know how to do an Internet search to see that many people explain how atheism is a religion, right?

You still haven't figured out how to use a good dictionary or encyclopedia to find out that the definition of atheism shows that it is a religion according to the definition of religion, right?

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April 19, 2018, 03:05:57 AM
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Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

Cool

So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

Finally you are getting the point. People have religions. Therefore people are bad. Even Coincube has shown you that in the Health and Religion thread.

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April 19, 2018, 05:52:34 AM
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Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?
Atheism is not a religion, but a world view that denies religion as a belief in the supernatural.
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April 19, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
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The damage that religion has done to the world from holding back science due to it proving religion wrong and the countless wars in my opinion makes it so that atheism really is no form of religion.


We all have different views regarding Atheism. But for me it's neither a belief or religion, but more like a perspective. Atheism is more likely directed to having lack of belief in Gods. We should just respect each other's beliefs and don't let these differences tear us apart.

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April 19, 2018, 09:55:22 AM
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Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

Atheist cannot be classified as another religion. They are contradict. Religion has something on common which is belief for God while atheist is the opposite. And atheist should not be recognize. They are against God. How can you trust people with no God. They can be harmful and fearful. They do not care what ever they do.Atheist must encounter God so that their belief  and mndset will ..change.

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April 19, 2018, 02:35:28 PM
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Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

Atheist cannot be classified as another religion. They are contradict. Religion has something on common which is belief for God while atheist is the opposite. And atheist should not be recognize. They are against God. How can you trust people with no God. They can be harmful and fearful. They do not care what ever they do.Atheist must encounter God so that their belief  and mndset will ..change.

If they contradicted entirely, the dictionary definitions would not show that they are similar in some ways - atheism and religion. The way the definitions explain them shows that atheism is a religion.

Google "atheism religion" to see how many people explain why atheism is a religion, and how many others try to show that it is not.

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April 19, 2018, 02:38:20 PM
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Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?
Atheism is not a religion, but a world view that denies religion as a belief in the supernatural.

Yet nobody knows how nature came into existence naturally. Some say that they do, but they don't have near enough evidence to show that they might be correct. What this really means is, all of nature is supernatural... at least as far as we can tell.

Since we don't know that all of nature is NOT supernatural at its core, the atheistic belief that nature is not supernatural, is part of what classifies atheism as a religion.

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April 19, 2018, 03:10:03 PM
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The atheist is a "believer in what you see," or just believe in what "science proves" to be real, to be in the visible world. People are based on this basis to "assimilate" materialistic people, the Communists are atheistic. From these characteristics we immediately recognize their manifestations: Can not accept all false The theory "that science does not prove existed", not just "mythological details" in religious myths.
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The atheist is a "believer in what you see," or just believe in what "science proves" to be real, to be in the visible world. People are based on this basis to "assimilate" materialistic people, the Communists are atheistic. From these characteristics we immediately recognize their manifestations: Can not accept all false The theory "that science does not prove existed", not just "mythological details" in religious myths.

However, unless you do the scientific examinations yourself, you are simply accepting the word of other people. Such acceptance sounds more like religion to me than it sounds like science.

After all, the scientific study of religion seems to attempt to bring religion into conformity with other sciences. It is not looked at for its autonomy. So, it just might be general science that is the real religion.

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because they don't believe in any deity, being in a religion means believing or having faith in a certain deity
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April 19, 2018, 03:29:29 PM
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because they don't believe in any deity, being in a religion means believing or having faith in a certain deity

Buddhism is classified as a religion. But it doesn't officially have any deity, even though some Buddhists attempt to believe that the Buddha is a deity.

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April 19, 2018, 05:44:00 PM
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Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

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So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

Finally you are getting the point. People have religions. Therefore people are bad. Even Coincube has shown you that in the Health and Religion thread.

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''People have religions. Therefore people are bad'' Sometimes I don't know if you are trolling or you simply don't even understand what you are saying. You are calling yourself a bad person lol.

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April 19, 2018, 06:30:09 PM
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Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?


I believe that it isn't considered as religion because religion is known to be our guide closer to God and it makes our faith stronger. Athiesm is actually being against religion because they don't believe in the exist. They are known to be anti religion so they are another group but they aren't considered as religion because it actually contradicts so in differs from religion.

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Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

Cool

So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

Finally you are getting the point. People have religions. Therefore people are bad. Even Coincube has shown you that in the Health and Religion thread.

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''People have religions. Therefore people are bad'' Sometimes I don't know if you are trolling or you simply don't even understand what you are saying. You are calling yourself a bad person lol.

You don't even seem to want to agree with yourself. You suggested that religions-are/religion-is bad. But take a religion. What does it do? The religion itself doesn't do anything. It just sits there, like a philosophy might. Only when it gets into people does it become bad. Why then? Because people are bad. So, it is people who turn religions bad. And atheism is one of the worst, because it can't be truly followed by anyone, and most so-called atheists lie by claiming that they are atheists, and it is entirely silly for lack of positive evidence.

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Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

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So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

Finally you are getting the point. People have religions. Therefore people are bad. Even Coincube has shown you that in the Health and Religion thread.

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''People have religions. Therefore people are bad'' Sometimes I don't know if you are trolling or you simply don't even understand what you are saying. You are calling yourself a bad person lol.

You don't even seem to want to agree with yourself. You suggested that religions-are/religion-is bad. But take a religion. What does it do? The religion itself doesn't do anything. It just sits there, like a philosophy might. Only when it gets into people does it become bad. Why then? Because people are bad. So, it is people who turn religions bad. And atheism is one of the worst, because it can't be truly followed by anyone, and most so-called atheists lie by claiming that they are atheists, and it is entirely silly for lack of positive evidence.

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Actually what I'm saying is that your particular religion is bad and doesn't teach morals. The bible says '' do not kill '' to later say '' kill anyone who works on the sabbath '' and that's just one example of many, rape, slavery, it's all allowed in the bible if you follow certain ''rules''. My ''religion'' doesn't teach me what to do, unlike yours.

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My ''religion'' doesn't teach me what to do, unlike yours.

Yes it does. You did things this week. You avoided certain activities and pursued others. You followed certain behavioral constraints perhaps by habit, joy, or fear of punishment.

When doing all of these things you are operating within a framework of motivations, goals, and desires. At the bottom of that framework the foundation is your core motivations the essence of you aka your religion.

Now you may or may not know what your religion is. Many people never examine their own foundations. Many others pay lip service to an idea while in reality building their life upon an entirely different or even contradictory foundation. The reality is the foundation not the words.

Actually what I'm saying is that your particular religion is bad and doesn't teach morals.

This is a reasonable line of questioning. However, an honest examination requires you not pick out individual verses in religious text you agree or disagree with but to look at the entire arc of human history.

First you have to define morals which in itself is not a trivial matter.

Then you need to examine slavery how and why you can define it as morally wrong and how humanity developed the awareness that has mostly abolished it.

You need to examine the long terms effects of various religions on human societies over time and the true impact these have on health and progress.

You need to closely and honestly look at societies that have changed their religion and replaced it with new religions. I would suggest a look at German, Russian, and Chinese history over the last 100 years as particularly instructive.

Having looked at the world to the best of my limited ability using the above approach I strongly disagree with your quote above but that is mostly irrelevant. You need to decide for yourself.

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It is very simple. Atheism can't be classified as a religion, because it is not a religion. For example, let's take the issue of mental disease. A lot of people in the world suffer from mental disease such as schizophrenia. Do we need to create a classification for people who don't have schizophrenia? I don't think so.

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My ''religion'' doesn't teach me what to do, unlike yours.

Yes it does. You did things this week. You avoided certain activities and pursued others. You followed certain behavioral constraints perhaps by habit, joy, or fear of punishment.

When doing all of these things you are operating within a framework of motivations, goals, and desires. At the bottom of that framework the foundation is your core motivations the essence of you aka your religion.

Now you may or may not know what your religion is. Many people never examine their own foundations. Many others pay lip service to an idea while in reality building their life upon an entirely different or even contradictory foundation. The reality is the foundation not the words.

Actually what I'm saying is that your particular religion is bad and doesn't teach morals.

This is a reasonable line of questioning. However, an honest examination requires you not pick out individual verses in religious text you agree or disagree with but to look at the entire arc of human history.

First you have to define morals which in itself is not a trivial matter.

Then you need to examine slavery how and why you can define it as morally wrong and how humanity developed the awareness that has mostly abolished it.

You need to examine the long terms effects of various religions on human societies over time and the true impact these have on health and progress.

You need to closely and honestly look at societies that have changed their religion and replaced it with new religions. I would suggest a look at German, Russian, and Chinese history over the last 100 years as particularly instructive.

Having looked at the world to the best of my limited ability using the above approach I strongly disagree with your quote above but that is mostly irrelevant. You need to decide for yourself.

You remind me of those people that want to have unlimited gender identities. You are basically giving the word religion such a broad meaning that you might as well just not use it.

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