sabbers/stevenbucks the same scam artist ? 100btc bounty

[Anonymous]

sabbers/steven/stevenb ripped me off awhile ago by failing to complete a project and he kept begging for money to play casino games.
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=726.0
he owns the domain v-co.in   and other .in ones


bitlex also had a run in with him.
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483.0

stevenbucks did exactly the same thing. You may be able to change your forum name but your character is no different.
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3322.new#new


They both ripped off bitcoiners. First myself ,then Bitlex and now Nefario. The same guy also had a run in with New Liberty Standard a long time ago . Who knows how many more ?


Im starting a  bounty to have him found and publicly outed/doxed.  This person/s is a parasite on the bitcoin community.


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[Anonymous]

Don't make the guy skip town too soon. He still needs to send me two smartbooks. : P

[stevenbucks]

I did not mean to scam anyone - i told you im still willing to work on your sites a while ago. anyway my offer still stands. yes i am sabbers - im sorry what happened, but i cant changed what did happen, i can only try to fix - which i know will be hard.

if you want me to still develop your sites im fine with that - im trying to get the bitcoins to pay the people i owe back

[dishwara]

I hope u will fulfill ur promise to me & to others.
Coz some times, u cant "undo" in real life.

[stevenbucks]

if you want me to leave the bitcoin community i will - but i MUST pay back to those who i owe first- i will not run again, i really do fell sorry for what i have done and i trully want to fix it.

[kiba]

Let see if you does.

[BitLex]

I did not mean to scam anyone

then where is my money?
you still owe me 600+BTC

[Nefario]

This list is getting longer and longer,anyone else?

[stevenbucks]

forget this shit - if everyone is going to just bash me i might as well run out - i am thinking of ways to fix it but all i get is bashed - so i dont know what to do.... bye

[BitLex]

i am thinking of ways to fix it but all i get is bashed

ways to fix it?

so instead of contacting those you owe,
you vanish for weeks/months, then you create a new account and try to rip people off again.

i hardly doubt, that you (anonymously) tried to sell mobile-minutes and php-codework to me, just to pay me back,
that makes no sense at all.

give me those mobile-minutes for free,
work for me for free,
that would make sense to pay me back,
to play hide and seek doesn't.

[Mahkul]

i am thinking of ways to fix it but all i get is bashed

ways to fix it?

so instead of contacting those you owe,
you vanish for weeks/months, then you create a new account and try to rip people off again.

i hardly doubt, that you (anonymously) tried to sell mobile-minutes and php-codework to me, just to pay me back,
that makes no sense at all.

give me those mobile-minutes for free,
work for me for free,
that would make sense to pay me back,
to play hide and seek doesn't.

Exactly, if you are addicted to gambling you have a chance to work for your debts instead of paying them back in bitcoins. I would say that's more than a fair chance of "fixing it". You should be grateful that people are willing to accept your services instaed of money.

[Nefario]

Have started a thread on how to combat this problem.
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3361.0

[stevenbucks]

i am thinking of ways to fix it but all i get is bashed

ways to fix it?

so instead of contacting those you owe,
you vanish for weeks/months, then you create a new account and try to rip people off again.

i hardly doubt, that you (anonymously) tried to sell mobile-minutes and php-codework to me, just to pay me back,
that makes no sense at all.

give me those mobile-minutes for free,
work for me for free,
that would make sense to pay me back,
to play hide and seek doesn't.

You are right - can i offer you some php work or mobile minutes in exchange for what i owe you please. I am sorry i never offer these before - when i gambled everything and lost i didnt know what to do. that is why i ran away. i tried to make a new username to hide my shame but seems like im a idiot gambler and i did the same thing :-( - i just want everything fixed

[Nefario]

I was reading thr common economic protocols the other day, it mentions that the only way for a society to bring justice without using violence is to ostracise(cut off) the offending person.No one does business with them not one deals or speaks with them.

can we also get a bitcoin court?

Oh steven, you can work off your dept to me writing articles, see here, although I would prefer if you emailed or pmed me the article, I dont want to give you any kind of access.  to my server.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3354.0

[BitLex]

you scammed and lied and ripped me off,
why should i trust you now?
cuz you said "i'm sorry"? you did that before and it was a lie, why should i believe you now?

[stevenbucks]

you scammed and lied and ripped me off,
why should i trust you now?
cuz you said "i'm sorry"? you did that before and it was a lie, why should i believe you now?

I know what i did and i was stupid. I know you are not going to believe me, which i cant blame you, i was gone for some months, i know you cant trust me - i lost all the trust. but im asking to work for the debt i owe to you and the rest i owe bitcoins to

[dingus]

you scammed and lied and ripped me off,
why should i trust you now?
cuz you said "i'm sorry"? you did that before and it was a lie, why should i believe you now?

I know what i did and i was stupid. I know you are not going to believe me, which i cant blame you, i was gone for some months, i know you cant trust me - i lost all the trust. but im asking to work for the debt i owe to you and the rest i owe bitcoins to

So, what is stopping you from dropping off the map again, and coming back with a new username?

[stevenbucks]

I could run off again - and do what u said, but i dont like doing what i did - i am still a person and i am ashamed for what i did - i just want to make things right

[Nefario]

I could run off again - and do what u said, but i dont like doing what i did - i am still a person and i am ashamed for what i did - i just want to make things right

If you were to dissapear for a while I think you would find that we hsve found a solution to this kind of problem by then.

[stevenbucks]

the thing is i dont want to run off - i want to fix the mess i have started. i want to make things right - i will post a thread on my goals to fix this and what i have to offer.

[kiba]

the thing is i dont want to run off - i want to fix the mess i have started. i want to make things right - i will post a thread on my goals to fix this and what i have to offer.

You going to have to work for free. No offering goods and services for btc.

[Nefario]

 this is a good experiment as to how our justice system may work. steven, if you are genuine dont feel like were being too harsh, what is happening is uncharted ground.

[Stephen Gornick]

[...] you have a chance to work for your debts instead of paying them back in bitcoins.

I cannot imagine a worse situation than having a loan that requires repayment with bitcoins.  If a month ago you borrowed for 30 days -- even at 0% interest, just to buy back those bitcoins using USD today it would cost at least 3X the amount of USD versus when the loan was made.

Anyone care to opine as to why here in the U.S. we have chapter 7 (bankruptcy) and chapter 13 (reorganization) laws?


That being said, he does offer a useful service:
Anonmous Prepaid Phone Service $30/Month for 1500 minutes/texts
  http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3321.0

[Nefario]

[...] you have a chance to work for your debts instead of paying them back in bitcoins.

I cannot imagine a worse situation than having a loan that requires repayment with bitcoins.  If a month ago you borrowed for 30 days -- even at 0% interest, just to buy back those bitcoins using USD today it would cost at least 3X the amount of USD versus when the loan was made.

Anyone care to opine as to why here in the U.S. we have chapter 7 (bankruptcy) and chapter 13 (reorganization) laws?


That being said, he does offer a useful service:
Anonmous Prepaid Phone Service $30/Month for 1500 minutes/texts
  http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3321.0

Does that mean we own him? has slavery been made on the internet?

[kiba]

No. It just mean we gotta figure out how to conduct justice 'fairly' in a world of high deflation.

[Nefario]

He's selling again http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3321.0

I think he should trade assets and services with his creditors(and no noe else) for paying off agreed amouNts of his debt. Because he will just try to cheat others(until he has proven he wont)

[stevenbucks]

He's selling again http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3321.0

I think he should trade assets and services with his creditors(and no noe else) for paying off agreed amouNts of his debt. Because he will just try to cheat others(until he has proven he wont)

Yup i read what you wrote, i will be taking my thread out in which i was selling things, until i have made things right.

[ribuck]

im asking to work for the debt i owe to you and the rest i owe bitcoins to

Enough talk.

The only sensible way forward is to:

1. Stop gambling
2. Do some work, or sell some stuff that you own
3. Start paying back people that you scammed

Once you start paying people back, you'll start to feel much better about yourself too.

[Anonymous]

im asking to work for the debt i owe to you and the rest i owe bitcoins to

Enough talk.

The only sensible way forward is to:

1. Stop gambling
2. Do some work, or sell some stuff that you own
3. Start paying back people that you scammed

Once you start paying people back, you'll start to feel much better about yourself too.

+1

Its pretty simple.

[chris200x9]

100 bitcoins please