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August 03, 2011, 08:25:23 AM
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none of the mybitcoin money has moved.

trade volume is way low. It isnt dumping causing the drop.

right now it doesnt look like too many people are willing to sell much lower.

It's the bad news, 17,000 lost in that bitcoin exchange, has got to have dishearten many and then mybitcoin as well.. thats just two kicks in the nuts. We'll survive this, but we need to quit having mega bad news. same thing would happen to any stock that had news as big and as bad as we had this week.

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August 03, 2011, 09:04:52 AM
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I hope some miners quit now, because the profitability goes down  Grin
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August 03, 2011, 01:00:01 PM
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It Will just keep going down. and expectations are below 5$ by the end of the year.

REASON:!?!?!

1) we have a lot of miners.
2) we have a lot of mining hoppers that jump in for a day with massive Giga Hash and then switch down till next difficulty.
3) we have few buyers if any.
4) Many people think BTC is overpriced right now.
5) Miners/Buyers entering the market rate is still way too high .although we have low prices and low profit margin (11$ compared to 31$ in the past) .




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August 03, 2011, 01:17:56 PM
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I like how hackers, social engineers, and/or douchfags, have made the issue of over mining a non issue lol

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August 03, 2011, 01:20:10 PM
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I like how hackers, social engineers, and/or douchfags, have made the issue of over mining a non issue lol

Does that include Social porn stars ? Smiley
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August 03, 2011, 01:24:21 PM
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Does that include Social porn stars ? Smiley

Vegetta and Jessie Kang/King or whoever are back?!?

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August 03, 2011, 01:54:01 PM
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Does that include Social porn stars ? Smiley

Vegetta and Jessie Kang/King or whoever are back?!?

YEs dude! i thougth you already knew it!
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August 03, 2011, 04:56:07 PM
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17k BTC lost at the 3rd biggest exchange.

up to $1.3 million MIA with mybitcoin

gox has been acting odd, reminding us of their problems


why wouldnt it tank?

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August 03, 2011, 06:01:44 PM
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Its possible the traders are just doing this. You just have to own enough coin to drive it down and then you buy back more than you sold since you got everyone to shake. Nobody wants to be a bag holder and these traders will prey on that. Just hold your coin and keep mining. Grin
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August 03, 2011, 06:11:56 PM
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8.7, that's quite the tank and it doesn't look to be over. I can't say I'm surprised but I do feel slightly bad for all the people who were buying at 13+ recently.
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August 03, 2011, 07:11:18 PM
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1) we have a lot of miners.
2) we have a lot of mining hoppers that jump in for a day with massive Giga Hash and then switch down till next difficulty.
Why would these have any effect at all?
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August 03, 2011, 07:18:21 PM
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Miners account for the slow systematic decline we've seen over the last few weeks.  Money supply grows daily, plus a large amount of people are guaranteed to be sellers on a daily basis.  That downwards pressure has to be met by new buyers, and that just hasn't been happening.

Also, the large orders at prices like 8,9, 10 have all been removed from the 5 exchanges I track.  There was a wall of like 3k+ bitcoin bid at MtGox that poofed, which caused this drop.  10 had an absurdly large amount of bid volume as well that canceled shortly after 11 was breached.
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August 03, 2011, 07:22:13 PM
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I think UABB has something to do with it and a new thread should be started to ferret out the why. Matthew is probably sleeping now so, by the time he wakes up, he'll never know that we were onto him because, by then, the link to that thread will well be on the second page--and hardly anybody ever goes there.

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August 03, 2011, 07:25:38 PM
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lots of miners has little effect on price.. it does have an effect on people wanting to mine and mining profitability(somewhat) and the difficulty... the main effect miners can have on price is new miners that insist on dumping every coin they mine to recoup costs and old miners sitting on war chests cashing out.  The actual number of miners is meaningless.

 
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we have a lot of mining hoppers that jump in for a day with massive Giga Hash and then switch down till next difficulty.


are you talking namecoin? otherwise you dont know how hopping works. The only time we take a break from bitcoin mining is when it is more profitable to mine namecoins which only happens a couple of days every few months, and from what I can see, it is an extreme minority of us that even bother hopping off bitcoin to namecoin. Most just say screw it and keep mining bitcoins.

Hoppers have exactly zero effect on price.

 Money supply does grow daily but dont make the common mistake in thinking the growth rate changes.. for the most part it is at 300 new coins every hour.. doesnt matter how many miners there are.. it is 300 coins every hour.

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August 03, 2011, 07:26:07 PM
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hahahaha, I can tell you exactly why and how it's happening.

give me a moment to let me find a thread I started a couple weeks ago.
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August 03, 2011, 07:31:43 PM
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here you go angelus.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=30995.0
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August 03, 2011, 07:34:38 PM
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August 03, 2011, 07:38:33 PM
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The explanation is simplier as anyone is guessing here. Price is based on supply and demand.

While every week 50.400 bitcoins are generated you need ca. 605.000$ coming into the market to keep the price stable at 12$.

If this does NOT happen, (which boviously doesnt) the price falls!


I am sure the price will continue to fall!

your number assumes that all miners immediately sell off their earnings.
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August 03, 2011, 07:41:10 PM
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If you look at the last 2-3 weeks of charts it would heavily indicate that a good portion do sell off their earnings immediately.  While certainly not all, it doesn't take much to drive price down, and until today, it's only been a slow slide.
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August 03, 2011, 07:50:43 PM
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Made my first bitcoin trades during the last week or so , Had £340.00 in MyBitcoin as I was juggling money around while i was setting up an offline wallet(lesson learned) , then I made my second mistake by not moving the rest of the bitcoins I had made (priced between £8.26 to £7.98 each) out and into the britcoin exchange to cash out immediately , spent all day chasing the price down today, finally sold them as low as £6.88 each losing a further £120.00 or so on the exchange rate , (lesson learned).  Grin

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