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April 18, 2013, 04:34:11 PM
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I was scammed on another forum when I tried to sell some BTC. Never again will I send first grrrrrr :| I wish I had found this forum first with all the tips and warnings.
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According to NIST and ECRYPT II, the cryptographic algorithms used in Bitcoin are expected to be strong until at least 2030. (After that, it will not be too difficult to transition to different algorithms.)
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April 18, 2013, 04:35:40 PM
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I was scammed on another forum when I tried to sell some BTC. Never again will I send first grrrrrr :| I wish I had found this forum first with all the tips and warnings.

I wonder whether contacting the police would help in most countries.
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April 18, 2013, 04:40:21 PM
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This is a great post (at least the first couple pages) for someone new to Bitcoin like myself.
I'm glad it was one of the first posts that I read on this forum.
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April 18, 2013, 04:40:44 PM
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I did not bother.. They have much more important things to do and I am pretty sure the guy who scammed me is not in Australia
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April 19, 2013, 12:23:10 AM
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I'd like to put out a 5 BTC bounty for whomever can reveal the person behind premiumBTC@gmail.com--they gave me a lovely welcome to the btc world---and I'd love to thank them for it in as public a way as possible...
The fact that he uses a GMail account should have been your first clue.


well what do you suggest we use for email. cause im using gmail and im not out to scam people. i've been using gmail since almost day one. does that make me a scammer.
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April 19, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
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Can't be too paranoid, have to convert the btc to real currency at some point afterall

Yeah I agree with you, this is a real world. it isn't Fair if we always think every new person
are the liar or scammer just like most of people in this forum... Huh

a Real businessman is a person who are willing take high risk to expand his business.

If Any One can't trusty, just consider to taking business with people from other planet.....  Grin
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April 19, 2013, 11:46:17 AM
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I'd like to put out a 5 BTC bounty for whomever can reveal the person behind premiumBTC@gmail.com--they gave me a lovely welcome to the btc world---and I'd love to thank them for it in as public a way as possible...
The fact that he uses a GMail account should have been your first clue.


If the person who use gmail its first clue for  scammer Huh can you ensured the person who using aol,hotmail,yahoomail,etc can be trusted Huh  Embarrassed

Lol
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April 19, 2013, 12:10:29 PM
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> this is the insulting robot

> stay safe - only trust robots!
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April 19, 2013, 12:38:01 PM
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Yeah, you must be careful, but with no trust at all, the bitcoin market would freeze...
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April 19, 2013, 01:28:21 PM
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While I suspect that it's good advice, "trust no one" is a tough principle to build an economy, let alone a community on.

I hope we figure out how the Bitcoin platform can engender more trust.
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April 20, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
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One problem with BTC seems to be that its striving to be two things.

A new currency not susceptible to inflation but also anonymous.

The anonymity and security portion are what increase transaction times to 1000X what most people would consider reasonable, and make the whole system so complicated that only extremely technically inclined people can use it.

That's locking out most of the population and only adding to the liquidity problem.
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April 21, 2013, 06:07:02 AM
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One problem with BTC seems to be that its striving to be two things.

A new currency not susceptible to inflation but also anonymous.

The anonymity and security portion are what increase transaction times to 1000X what most people would consider reasonable, and make the whole system so complicated that only extremely technically inclined people can use it.

That's locking out most of the population and only adding to the liquidity problem.

Thus the creation of jobs, yes, bitcoin can create financial security officer employment positions. Let's say you know some people who want to drop a few thousand into bitcoin, just to invest, get their feet wet, be a "part" of the brave new Crypto Currency world, or maybe they like to gamble, or whatever. But they need security, they need to secure their bitcoins, or their litecoins, that's where the new position of Cryptographic Asset Security Management, (CASM), professionals step in and give those investors confidence that their bitcoin and litecoin wallets are safe, secure, and backed up in a safe location. Those people need advice, training and ongoing support, all for the everyday low price of just a fraction of a bitcoin, or two.
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April 27, 2013, 06:50:32 AM
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A user on reddit trusted a random scammer and sent away about 200$ worth of BTC:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1d71ou/scam_if_you_got_this_message_do_not_send_anything/c9nlj1g

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Seriously. Don't trust the exchanges, don't trust online wallet services, don't trust your anti-virus software, and don't trust anybody online.
Yep! Few are listening though...

There may still be hope for the 1st decentralized cryptocurrency which is Bitcoin. How to approach different subjects is key to progress.
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April 27, 2013, 10:53:12 PM
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Thanks for this thread, helped me a lot. Especially the link to the "securing your wallet" wiki.
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April 28, 2013, 01:42:10 AM
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> this is the insulting robot

> stay safe - only trust robots!
lol)
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April 28, 2013, 11:50:35 PM
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A user on reddit trusted a random scammer and sent away about 200$ worth of BTC:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1d71ou/scam_if_you_got_this_message_do_not_send_anything/c9nlj1g

Quote from: dacoinminster
Seriously. Don't trust the exchanges, don't trust online wallet services, don't trust your anti-virus software, and don't trust anybody online.
Yep! Few are listening though...

Reddit'ers arent the smartest bunch, it seems.
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April 29, 2013, 12:31:26 AM
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Yes that is a good philosophy for sure.
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April 29, 2013, 01:43:35 AM
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Thanks for the tips. Always be careful.
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April 29, 2013, 12:38:29 PM
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wow that great tips to anyone on internet
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April 29, 2013, 01:55:50 PM
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wow that great tips
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