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November 13, 2013, 07:58:10 PM
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Wow deisik, you surprised me. Your two most recent posts were astute. Indeed the First and Second Industrial Revolutions. And now we are in the First Computer Revolution which is maturing towards the coming Second.

Don't really care about your opinion, you just think too much of yourself really... Grin
Also, I didn't say anything new, and if you think that you did... then lol Grin

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November 13, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
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I need to be honest and point out that all the posts that I've read in this thread (up to this point) other than mine are batshit stupid nonsense.

Just need to jump in here a sec to say, if you think you are sane, and everyone else seems batshit insane to you, how can you be sure you are not the batshit insane one?  Wink

*Pssst*... Not everyone here has a lower IQ than you do. Just saying.
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November 19, 2013, 01:23:29 AM
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Central bankers now pushing Bitcoin and electronic currencies:

http://www.businessinsider.com/ben-bernanke-on-bitcoin-2013-11

Summers (candidate for Fed, Treasury official, adviser to Presidents) wants to enslave us in negative interest rates on an electronic currency:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=323988.msg3626642#msg3626642

Seems the pre-frontal cortex on Bitcoiners has shut-down due to greed:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337291.msg3632324#msg3632324

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November 20, 2013, 10:42:59 AM
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Surprised to see a comment on the Bitcoin AP thread from Edwin
Vieira PhD JD, constitutional scholar and author of a seminal book on the US
monetary system.  No doubt you remember him from Russo's documentary and countless
interviews and articles on the net.   
Here's Vieira's comment:
Edwin Vieira said..."They" do not have to regulate the BitCoin system itself. They
will regulate the users, by requiring reports on BitCoin accounts and transactions,
for the purpose of collecting various taxes, in the same manner as foreign bank
accounts must be reported, and as FDR required reports on private gold ownership as
the prelude to confiscation. "They" may not have control of the BitCoins themselves;
but they do have control over the people who use them.

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November 20, 2013, 11:04:01 AM
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Edwin Vieira said..."They" do not have to regulate the BitCoin system itself. They
will regulate the users, by requiring reports on BitCoin accounts and transactions,
for the purpose of collecting various taxes, in the same manner as foreign bank
accounts must be reported, and as FDR required reports on private gold ownership as
the prelude to confiscation. "They" may not have control of the BitCoins themselves;
but they do have control over the people who use them.

Isn't that what "they" do? What was the news here? Except your brainchild that 350,000 earliest adopters will be jailed and more than all the gains will be confiscated after the comsummative bubble... Roll Eyes I think the probability of that occurring is so low that I will gladly continue holding my bitcoins and soliciting them to others as part of a balanced portfolio.

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November 20, 2013, 01:54:28 PM
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AnonyMint I think we all get your point. I'd like to add though that there are other countries than the US. Even if capital controls do become harsher here in the EU I have a hard time seeing your doomsday scenario come true here, in the US or anywhere else. Sure we never know and having a crypto currency that could provide greater anonymity can't be a bad thing. So stop posting and get your programming game on. Smiley

Oh yeah and what's with calling them Bitcons one day and then now Bitcoins again?

PS. Seems like you put a lot of faith into what Armstrong says. I've been following him for years and although I have to say he has a pretty good track record I think he's pretty far from an all seeing eye and at times seems to be borderline mad. I'd advice you from putting all your eggs in his basket(case?)

PS2. I think your coming coin where normal cpu's can keep mining is a pretty damn good idea. I haven't spent anytime at all looking into other altcoins. Is there any coin that has this feature atm?

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November 20, 2013, 01:59:51 PM
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First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out--
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.

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November 20, 2013, 02:02:38 PM
Last edit: November 20, 2013, 03:59:19 PM by AnonyMint
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Edwin Vieira said..."They" do not have to regulate the BitCoin system itself. They
will regulate the users, by requiring reports on BitCoin accounts and transactions,
for the purpose of collecting various taxes, in the same manner as foreign bank
accounts must be reported, and as FDR required reports on private gold ownership as
the prelude to confiscation. "They" may not have control of the BitCoins themselves;
but they do have control over the people who use them.

Isn't that what "they" do? What was the news here? Except your brainchild that 350,000 earliest adopters will be jailed and more than all the gains will be confiscated after the comsummative bubble... Roll Eyes I think the probability of that occurring is so low that I will gladly continue holding my bitcoins and soliciting them to others as part of a balanced portfolio.

You are gladly soliciting a ponzi scheme which has been clearly explained to you.

So you have no excuse when the prosecutions come, because you have even stated that you willfully did so.

Having run a silverbank, you will not be able to claim you did not understand the financial vehicle you were investing in.

You know very well the difference between a tangible asset and one that is fabricated out-of-thin-air. And you know very well that the intangible asset has no value if does not have utility as a currency. And it has been explained to you that unless the usership is sufficiently widespread that everyone can use it as an every day currency, then it can't be used as currency to divest without converting to a fiat, thus it is not a currency, but rather what the UK has correctly described it to be.

No where can I see you posting a disclaimer explaining that the asset has certain dubious qualities as described.

It is clearly explained to you that the price is rising too fast for it to be widely dispersed to the masses. And thus when the early adopters want to get out, they either need to start selling now to the masses (and forsake the final gains thus allowing the masses to gain back some of the ridiculous devaluation of their relative net worth), or they will selfishly try to get out at the top and only a few will. Which will be entirely what they deserve. I will try to find a scripture for you on this.

You even have charts in your threads show that it is rising if I am not mistaken at 12X per year. This is simply unheard of in any investment. This can only be a mania.

I have no problem with people destroying themselves investing in mania, but I do believe in telling the truth so that it can only be their fault and not mine.

And under the circumstances, I think it is very unwise to be investing in a ponzi scheme without complete anonymity.

But you are entirely free to take your chances of course.

I am happy that I told what I believe to be the truth. My conscience is clear on this one.

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