Merit system should be removed !

[Ayuluv2001]

Although I am new to this forum, I personally feel merit is a very good system. Not just reducing spam but it can also indirectly tells you how experience is the particular member and you can follow their post for "Golden Nuggets Airdrops"

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[PlanetZebes]

Something definitely should be done. I just read in another thread someone receiving 90 merits in one day from one guy, for short generic posts. Yet from my point of view getting just one merit, even from quality posts seems impossible. So it doesn't add up. It seems that the people receiving merits are people taking advantage of something.

[maxreish]

Theymos will not remove this merit system anymore, since it has been a great result here in the forum, It was a pleasure to read it today and reduce the no-frills word that has been a great help for this merit system, What he sees if he can do is to reduce the need for merit to make it easier to rank up, he limped out of this merit system, just as I think this merit system is designed for us as well, so as to be our basis so we should improve ourselves in this field.

[TheUltraElite]

Something definitely should be done. I just read in another thread someone receiving 90 merits in one day from one guy, for short generic posts. Yet from my point of view getting just one merit, even from quality posts seems impossible. So it doesn't add up. It seems that the people receiving merits are people taking advantage of something.

That might be a case of merit farming or it can be a legitimate merit worthy post. I cant comment more since you did not site the reference to this and I am not sure if you are making up facts from thin air considering all the whining that is happening about merit in the recent days. If it was a case of merit farming - report it and it will marked with red so as to render it incapable of joining any signature campaign or so.

I doubt if there are more than 150 posts worthy of merit. It's the other 8,000+ posts that are the problem, and the reason that a merit system has become essential.

Maybe just 10-20 posts per day are worth getting merits IMO.

[Dingdongjl]

Merit system should not! If you are here just to earn some "free" bitcoin without learning you shouldnt be here this forum is forum prioritize learning and if you dont have the patience of waiting and learning no one will stop you to leave this forum.

We all know how hard it is, but for sure it is worthy to spend time to make it.

[PlanetZebes]

Something definitely should be done. I just read in another thread someone receiving 90 merits in one day from one guy, for short generic posts. Yet from my point of view getting just one merit, even from quality posts seems impossible. So it doesn't add up. It seems that the people receiving merits are people taking advantage of something.

That might be a case of merit farming or it can be a legitimate merit worthy post. I cant comment more since you did not site the reference to this and I am not sure if you are making up facts from thin air considering all the whining that is happening about merit in the recent days. If it was a case of merit farming - report it and it will marked with red so as to render it incapable of joining any signature campaign or so.

I doubt if there are more than 150 posts worthy of merit. It's the other 8,000+ posts that are the problem, and the reason that a merit system has become essential.

Maybe just 10-20 posts per day are worth getting merits IMO.

I was definitely not making it up (yes I know, that's still not proof), but it was from another thread in the meta section. The post was short and low quality.

[gabbie2010]

Personally I fully supported the introduction of this merit system right from outset, I believed the idea has brought sanity with regards to shitposting which  floods across all sections of the forum especially one liner posters, this forum is very resourceful as far as crytocurrencies is concerned and I have learnt so many things lately from quality postings.

[GDragon]

You are against with this system because it's hard to rank up right? I feel you or rather we feel you but we are trying hard to get what we deserve instead of complaining. Believe to me, your complain is nonsense after all.

[Obeng minn]

personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts

as of its too hard for new comers too to gather merits from old members who always do trades and exchange merit only for them but the person who is new and if he dont has btc to exchange then its less chance for him even after posting quality post on bitcointalk forum

lol now dont give me merit for this i know the points which me said is true and many will agree

proof of merit abuse done on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3402060.0

I hope you are more patient, this is the rule we must take.
even though we have desires, we must see ourselves first. the extent to which we can do the job well.
then we think of reciprocity.
I personally though without rank also if we are diligent, I think will succeed.

[theyoungmillionaire]

The merit system is not a bad idea and it shouldn't be removed... However it needs to be improved as ranking up since the introduction of the merit-system seems to be 'impossible' due to the fact that even HQ posts/threads sometimes don't get any merit. Imho the requirements are too high and should be slightly lowered (at least for now) and may be adjusted over time.

Lowering requirements is a big NO and it was already discussed before.
Read most recent related topic: Why is it complicated to get merits

[petyang12]

personally me think merit system should not be there and ranks should be done via there post counts and quality of its posts

as of its too hard for new comers too to gather merits from old members who always do trades and exchange merit only for them but the person who is new and if he dont has btc to exchange then its less chance for him even after posting quality post on bitcointalk forum

lol now dont give me merit for this i know the points which me said is true and many will agree

proof of merit abuse done on this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3402060.0

I am here in bitcointalk to learn about cryptocurrency and to help in this forum. I admit that i'm still new or less experience but i'm not here just to rank up by getting merit instead make your way to become successful at what you're best at what you do.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I may be stupid, but your post doesn't really provide any reason why lowering the requirements would be 'a big NO'.

The reason why is because the account farming and shitposting problem on bitcointalk has gotten very much out of hand, and the only thing that keeps people from ranking up 100s of accounts--with shitposts, no less--and selling them, is the merit system. 

It's not supposed to be easy anymore to rank up.  It's supposed to take some time and effort to do so, and it's supposed to keep garbage shitposters from doing it at all.  You might be feeling a sting of inconvenience because of the merit system, but I'm sure Theymos foresaw that and is now indifferent to the bitching about it. 

There's no reason you could give here as to why you need to rank up any faster than you are that's going to get you much sympathy, so complaints generally fall upon deaf ears.  You can still engage in discussion here with zero problems, regardless of rank, excepting Newbie where you have posting and PM restrictions.  The only reason rank is important is for earning.  Since that's so often done via shitposting, most bitcointalk members who've been around a while do not care if earning merit is hard for you.  That's the bottom line.

[mojacho]

Just feel that many good quality posts by newbies and jr.s are miss-looked because people don't want to read opinions of low-rankers.
Date of registration or number of posts doesn't mean a person has nothing to say

[ilcapitano]

Just feel that many good quality posts by newbies and jr.s are miss-looked because people don't want to read opinions of low-rankers.
Date of registration or number of posts doesn't mean a person has nothing to say

It doesn't make sense, let's take a look at nullius case study. If you are able to contribute helpful threads, someone (not all) in the forum will like your threads. Then, some of them will give you merits.
For someone who have kept complaining about merit system, its distributional  mechanism, they should leave the forum, mainly because the forum is not a place for them, and they can not adapt to the new forum rules which related to merit system.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Some people here have to understand two things :

1. There is no exact formula on how to get merit, because everyone's perception of "quality posts" is different. 
2. You cannot just sit and think like, yeah now i'm gonna write a "quality post" only to get merit, rank up and join the bounties for more "money".

This is probably the worst strategy ever.  You just generates a useless content, discussing bull# on useless mega-threads, trying to write long, grammatically /and politically / correct posts using google translate and copy-pasting content, because you fail to come up with something good and at the end you gonna get ban/tagged for all the bull# you have done.

Pushing yourself to rank up just for the only reason you are here - the "free money" well, you gonna 99.8% fail badly.

This is not for everyone, not anymore. If you want to get something for free, you have to sit on your butt and begin to learn.
What is the name of the forum?!?!?!  Read it again loudly, it's for the father of all cryptocurrency so, stick to this topic, and away from all other shit.

Easy peasy, OK?

[krishnaverma]

Something definitely should be done. I just read in another thread someone receiving 90 merits in one day from one guy, for short generic posts. Yet from my point of view getting just one merit, even from quality posts seems impossible. So it doesn't add up. It seems that the people receiving merits are people taking advantage of something.

Abuse on such large scale will most probably get caught and dealt with. But that is also not because the form staff is looking out for this but it the members who report it. Most of the people are doing it voluntarily as a contribution to the forum or in hope of getting merits in return.

[TheUltraElite]

Just feel that many good quality posts by newbies and jr.s are miss-looked because people don't want to read opinions of low-rankers.
Date of registration or number of posts doesn't mean a person has nothing to say

I know some merit sources personally and after talking to them about their distributing methods - they are more lenient towards new members who are willing to post constructive content and not come here to shitpost to get paid.

You have stay happy with whatever merits you are getting because if Merit sources are not willing to merit you - you cant force them to do so.

Maybe take a small vacation form the forum and come back later and start posting with a fresh mind and it might have a different effect.

[hilariousetc]

Just feel that many good quality posts by newbies and jr.s are miss-looked because people don't want to read opinions of low-rankers.
Date of registration or number of posts doesn't mean a person has nothing to say

Do you think people look at your rank before they decide whether to read the post or not? Don't be silly. People care about the quality of contributions and not your rank, but if you make quality posts you will soon rise through the ranks anyway.

[lhtot8]

Do you think people look at your rank before they decide whether to read the post or not? Don't be silly. People care about the quality of contributions and not your rank, but if you make quality posts you will soon rise through the ranks anyway.

Agree with your point!
Quality is the most important thing to catch attention of readers.
If threads contain twitter link (most of them come from campaigns), etc. those sort of annoying threads will never catch readers' eyes, they will ignore such boring threads very quickly.

[BQ]

I think the merit system seems fair! Although I'm not sure about the reasoning behind the decision initially,
but basically higher rank = people can earn more from bounties, which seem to be the primary reason for many people to use the site.
Merit system = reward quality content = fill the site with quality content which might attract new users?