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June 04, 2018, 03:06:32 AM
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I see the website is currently fixing bitcoin instead of bitcoin money and it seems that ver roger is trying to make people think that bitcoin is bitcoin cash so change it that way but in my opinion it is not good and it reflects the badness of bitcoin cash
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June 04, 2018, 06:29:04 AM
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any way.. while the core defenders keep up the distraction drama of core vs cash.. pointing fingers while barry silbert grabs the branding.
No Roger Ver is the person saying "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin". I have a suggestion for you. Start calling Bitcoin Cash as Bitcoin and pray very hard that it will come true. Maybe that will make you happy.
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what people are not looking at is that while being told cash is the threat. which its not. other currencies are making a move for the top spot..
but hey. let the core devs and their fans point fingers away from the real big picture.
Bitcoin Cash is the threat? What a laugh! Hahaha.
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may all core fans enjoy your little cabin fever of an echo chamber
Echo chamber of truth, not Roger Ver's lies. Bitcoin Cash has a chance to be a good cryptocurrency if Roger Ver was not there to ruin its reputation.
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analogy of a core dev/fanboy
"everyone look at this annoying pimple on my right arm.. but dont look at the skin cancer on the left arm. and definetly dont notice the entire body"
Are you frustrated that you have failed to convince the forum in believing Roger Ver's lies?
Roger Ver is destroying Bitcoin Cash's reputation. You do not need a lying fraudster like him.

you are soo fooled by the drama.. that you have stuck yourself between kylie and khloe kardashian.. and cant see things outside of the kardashian drama.

No, you are trying to avoid the issue that you are a follower of Roger Ver and support his idea that Bitcoin "bilaterally split in two" so that you can fraudulently say that "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin".



Is that statement right to you?

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ver and theymos are financialy related by the same family agent. but pretending to hate each other and pretending they are totally different (jenner vs kardashian) but from the outside its all kardashian drama of one family.

Theymos is not going to conferences and fraudulently tell people that "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin" like Roger Ver. Do not pull Theymos down to Roger Ver's level.

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The Kardashians drama

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if though. in a few months. your core loyalty wanes and you decide you want to open your mind. to the whole big picture

check out the core devs, gmax defined what a bilateral split was and yes segwit split. from the old network(v20000000)
check the blockchain after block 478558 for about 2000 blocks (core network rejected v20000000 blocks to activate segwit)
yep core network rejected blocks and also ban hammered any nodes that tried relaying blocks of that old format

It was the miners who activated BIP91 that enabled the way to activate Segwit and not the Core developers. There was no chain split in Bitcoin. It was Bitcoin Cash that split away to become an altcoin.

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but im sure you wiill ignore the immutible network/tenicals. and instead scream 'but look at ver'
P.S ver is not even a coder. ver did not even create cash. thats how funny this drama is. ver did not create cash.

Yes, "but look at Ver" the fraud. Bitcoin Cash would be a better coin and community without him. Do you agree or not?


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June 04, 2018, 09:52:35 AM
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There was a documentary on TV in my country about Bitcoin and the millionaire people and Ver R. was speaking for a few minutes. It was enough now we call this guy a "guignol"
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June 04, 2018, 09:54:48 AM
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I see the website is currently fixing bitcoin instead of bitcoin money and it seems that ver roger is trying to make people think that bitcoin is bitcoin cash so change it that way but in my opinion it is not good and it reflects the badness of bitcoin cash

Many people are upset about this situation especially what you refer to as 'badness'

Even though the lawsuit will not go ahead Ver still can make amends and put a hand of friendship towards the community by using his bitcoincash.org domain for Bitcoin Cash and by using the bitcoin.com domain for information about Bitcoin or better still by giving the domain to the bitcoin.org team so ALL the confusion can stop once and for all.

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June 04, 2018, 09:55:12 AM
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He went so far as to claim that Bitcoin Cash outperformed Bitcoin Core (as he calls bitcoin) on all counts, except for the "longest chain with more proof of work" (due to the fact that the Bitcoin Core network is larger and, accordingly, has more processing power). Since then, the situation is heating up, and above all because Ver continues to refer to Bitcoin Cash as a bitcoin.
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June 04, 2018, 10:00:16 AM
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He went so far as to claim that Bitcoin Cash outperformed Bitcoin Core (as he calls bitcoin) on all counts, except for the "longest chain with more proof of work" (due to the fact that the Bitcoin Core network is larger and, accordingly, has more processing power). Since then, the situation is heating up, and above all because Ver continues to refer to Bitcoin Cash as a bitcoin.

That is the saddest part about the whole situation, it was Bitcoin that made Ver super rich yet he seems to have nothing good to say about Bitcoin.

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June 05, 2018, 03:06:43 AM
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 I cant believe there were people dumb enough thinking anything good will come out of it. Roger wins again. The sooner people realize how decentralisation works the better.
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June 05, 2018, 03:10:14 AM
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I hope this forces Ver to reflect back on his actions and look at how people perceive it. Say what you want about what is signed into law and all, but this IS misleading.When you are doing fraud at such big scale, it is just matter of time someone influential becomes a victim.
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June 05, 2018, 09:54:30 AM
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I hope this forces Ver to reflect back on his actions and look at how people perceive it. Say what you want about what is signed into law and all, but this IS misleading.When you are doing fraud at such big scale, it is just matter of time someone influential becomes a victim.

I hope so too but so far no word from Ver about it.

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June 10, 2018, 09:33:15 PM
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This will serve as a lesson to as many as with bad intentions, so many bitcoin enthusiasts say that Roger Ver is one of the main characters who will damage the crypto world because his greed and such misleading actions, I hope they will have success with this lawsuit as it will be a major breakthrough.

The lawsuit will not go ahead because of a lack of funding

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June 10, 2018, 11:26:12 PM
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 It's similar to the lawsuit against cigarettes for "killing people". At the end of the day, it's your choice to believe him and anyone even remotely educated on cryptocurrency would understand the difference between BTC and BCH
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June 10, 2018, 11:31:56 PM
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It's similar to the lawsuit against cigarettes for "killing people". At the end of the day, it's your choice to believe him and anyone even remotely educated on cryptocurrency would understand the difference between BTC and BCH

What you say is true but newbies are not to be blamed for the confusion the bitcoin.com domain is causing by conflating Bitcoin with the forked Bitcoin Cash

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June 14, 2018, 05:32:00 PM
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it seems roger ver is trying very hard to try to substitute bitcoin cash into bitcoin so try to buy some assets and a website called bitcoin and used to inform bitcoin cash. it's sad if new users make a mistake when buying. It would be expensive for both sides, and Ver would have to spend a fortune defending himself. Given that he has profited from the confusion, he could be liable. It is my understanding that he quickly changed his conduct and the lawsuit was canceled.
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June 14, 2018, 05:43:50 PM
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it seems roger ver is trying very hard to try to substitute bitcoin cash into bitcoin so try to buy some assets and a website called bitcoin and used to inform bitcoin cash. it's sad if new users make a mistake when buying. It would be expensive for both sides, and Ver would have to spend a fortune defending himself. Given that he has profited from the confusion, he could be liable. It is my understanding that he quickly changed his conduct and the lawsuit was canceled.

What happened was that the group taking Ver to court did not have enough funds therefore the lawsuit did not go ahead, they raised a few dollars in donations to fund the action so thanked all donors then closed down.


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June 14, 2018, 07:40:11 PM
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He went so far as to claim that Bitcoin Cash outperformed Bitcoin Core (as he calls bitcoin) on all counts, except for the "longest chain with more proof of work" (due to the fact that the Bitcoin Core network is larger and, accordingly, has more processing power). Since then, the situation is heating up, and above all because Ver continues to refer to Bitcoin Cash as a bitcoin.

I heard that Roger Ver has a criminal past that he was brought to criminal liability earlier. If this is true then I'm not very surprised by his style of work. To play on the fact that many people do not understand the difference between a real bitcoin and his fork - it's very mean.
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June 14, 2018, 08:45:50 PM
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I heard that Roger Ver has a criminal past that he was brought to criminal liability earlier. If this is true then I'm not very surprised by his style of work. To play on the fact that many people do not understand the difference between a real bitcoin and his fork - it's very mean.

Well the issues surrounding the fork and the creation of Bitcoin Cash by Ver along with the confusion caused by the information provided via his bitcoin.com domain is one thing but to drag out his criminal past is another. Yes the confusion caused by calling Bitcoin Cash the 'real' Bitcoin is not helping anyone and as you said maybe it is mean. I hope Roger will stop it for the sake of newbies at least if nothing else.

I think it is fair to be critical of anyone because of any subject including crypto and Ver but it must be within the bounds of decency. Under no circumstances should anyone keep having their one-off mistake that was made years ago to be kept being thrown in their face and keep being used as a way to undermine them.

No matter what our views (positive or negative) about Ver we should keep it limited to crypto related issues. Anybody who keeps digging out and mentioning the "criminal" past Ver has should stop it because you only bring your own reputation down when you attack his. Whatever he did it was a long time ago - forget it, move on, be polite and remain civil Smiley

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June 15, 2018, 02:04:22 AM
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yes you are right i think roger ver want to take over the name of bitcoin and put the name of bitcoin cash into bitcoin, then it'll eventually affect the general adoption of bitcoin.
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June 15, 2018, 09:08:10 AM
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yes you are right i think roger ver want to take over the name of bitcoin and put the name of bitcoin cash into bitcoin, then it'll eventually affect the general adoption of bitcoin.

As a newbie you seem to know a lot about Roger Ver and Bitcoin, where did you get your information from? This website or somewhere else?

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June 15, 2018, 09:25:39 AM
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this businessman was accused not so long ago of Bitcoin Cash's commitment. the administrator of the magazine CoinTimes sued him. the reason was that Roger is misleading the users of the site bitcoin.com, because of what newcomers can mistakenly buy Bitcoin Cash instead of official bitcoin.
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this businessman was accused not so long ago of Bitcoin Cash's commitment. the administrator of the magazine CoinTimes sued him. the reason was that Roger is misleading the users of the site bitcoin.com, because of what newcomers can mistakenly buy Bitcoin Cash instead of official bitcoin.

Where is the evidence or website link that shows "the administrator of the magazine CoinTimes sued him. the reason was that Roger is misleading the users of the site bitcoin.com, because of what newcomers can mistakenly buy Bitcoin Cash instead of official bitcoin" because I never heard of this before.

The only lawsuit I know of was discontinued because hardly anybody donated to the action. Plenty of people were backing the action saying Ver should be sued but when it came to people sending their donations to the lawsuit team they raised a few hundred dollars when they hoped to have received a few hundred thousand by then.

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