STOP 'Quote post'- To Everyone Who use "Quote" Most of the time

[btccrusher]

Please stop unnecessary quote comments

Everyone on this forum should be aware of making this forum more better.
I'm overlooking some users are using unnecessary "quote" option when it's really don't need. This makes a thread looks messy and spammy to me (probably to everyone). Also, it's very irritating to read these comments with a huge "quote".
Usually, when we reply to a thread, it should mean the original post. So, there is no need to quote the original post unless it has something to mention. If need to quote a few lines, we can do that. Why should we quote a full original post? Useless and irritating. Here is a recent example of this kind of comments, and here is another one.

Need reference to good/perfect use of quote while giving comments? Here is one good example, take a look. Here is another good example.

Note: My intention is not to hurt any individual user. All reference found at random.
Hope this post reduce the number of the focused user's behavior.

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[Jet Cash]

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I agree completely, and I gave you a merit for saying it.

I shouldn't have included a quote in this post, as it is directed at the OP, but I wanted to show two examples of quote shortening. I used a meow to use the quote function to address my reply to a specific post, others prefer a snip ( [ snip ] ) or a tilde ( ~ ).

The other useful facility is the post subject entry, and very few members seem to use this. It's a handy tool to use to focus your reply.

[mdayonliner]

Here is another one. I do feel the same when I see unnecessary quoting.

Note: My intention is not to hurt any individual user. All reference found at random.

Someone should not be hurt. It's very clear that your references are reasonable.

...others prefer a snip ( [ snip ] ) or a tilde ( ~ ).

I do use (~)

[LoyceV]

Here is another one.

Question for moderators: If I report those saying "unnecessarily large quote", will they get deleted?

I've seen several "annoying" quoting styles lately:
1. Some people just add their own text as bold within the quote
2. Some people quote the whole post, add [1], [2] and more numbers to it, and handle those bullet points one by one in their reply. This is hard to read back.
3. Some people just mess up the quote entirely, especially nested quotes can be complicate to snip.

The proper way to reply to part of a quote, is to quote only relevant parts, end it with [ /quote], and start the next [ quote] under your own text.

[Moiyah]

I honestly do not read the whole thing quoted like this. It's either I backed thread or skipped it. My bad. But it's freakin' irritating. Jet Cash was right, I do the [snip] thing and I just learned that by observing how higher members quoted long posts. If we are just vigilant enough how are the other higher rank members react to a post, then we will probably learn.

The proper way to reply to part of a quote, is to quote only relevant parts, end it with [ /quote], and start the next [ quote] under your own text.

They quoted the whole thing and not just the signifant ones. Either, they are lazy to shorten it or they are not aware about this thing. 

Hope others may read this thread as this is so helpful to lessen such spam and nonsense quoted comments.

[digaran]

I agree completely, and I gave you a merit for saying it.

Can I suggest something sir Jet? why don't you start a school to teach us how to properly quote?
There are other satan's slaves in this forum who'd like to learn from you sir Cash.

~LL

[theyoungmillionaire]

Can I suggest something sir Jet? why don't you start a school to teach us how to properly quote?
There are other satan's slaves in this forum who'd like to learn from you sir Cash.

~LL

You can try https://fittotalk.com/english-talk/, a training project made by JC and his team to help people enhance their English and forum etiquette.

[mangtomas]

ahaha.. .  just calm dude. but i like the way you talk about this quote's dude. but you can't stop people who quoted. except if admin or moderator make a Law. about "quote stop" you saying.

[krishnaverma]

You are doing a good job by sharing this useful information with other members, but I doubt if the abusers of this function are reading this. I guess the abusers of particular feature should be sent an automatic notation with a long essay where they have to read everything and then also submit answers to some questions based on what they just read.

We can start with your post for abusers of quote feature.

[LTU_btc]

I don't think it's something wrong to quote full original post, especially if it's not long. If you are quoting long text, offcourse it's better to leave important parts of text only. If original post have image - better to remove it or leave link to it only. But it's really annoying when users quoting full ICO ANN posts or something similar and they just say something like "great project, sir".
It would be best to crop posts that you are quoting (example - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3405193.msg35647741#msg35647741), but it's not comvenient to do that on mobile.

[NoNetwork]

Well for my case, I just use the reply button on the top right, it only means that I am referring to the OP, well unless you're pertaining to a specific person then you should quote that person, but as much as possible you don't really need to have every word included as for the original post. Just phrases are quite enough but if it can't be help then include at least only the full sentence and not the whole thing.

[Kim Ji Won]

but you can't stop people who quoted. except if admin or moderator make a Law. about "quote stop" you saying.

Well, if this post will get to those people who likely quote long OP like that then this will probably make them realize what they are doing is very wrong and it is really in fact annoying. Sometimes, encountering users who quote like that and you end up scrolling for a while only to find at the end that their reply is a very short one, spam or useless.   LMAO

[Welsh]

I don't think it's something wrong to quote full original post, especially if it's not long. If you are quoting long text, offcourse it's better to leave important parts of text only.

My general rule is use the reply button without quoting anyone if you are responding to either the OP or the reply before you. If you only want to address certain parts of the previous reply/op then I may quote those parts and respond. I don't always do this, but I think it's good practice to do this.

It may not be "wrong" in the sense that it's against forum rules, but it can get annoying quickly.

[Taki]

That's the first time I hear that someone is unsatisfied with 'quote' function  Yes, many users use it clumsy and unnecessary, but what to do with that people?! Their long quote posts irritate only you and couple more people here, but I really do not see a way to do something with this! It is just impossible to teach people to use 'quote' only when it is really necessary and to take only a part of a text instead to 'quote' a whole thread.

[Welsh]

It's just forum etiquette it's not really something that can be done about it, but a friendly reminder isn't going to hurt is it?

It is just impossible to teach people to use 'quote' only when it is really necessary and to take only a part of a text instead to 'quote' a whole thread.

Why is it impossible? Your taught at a young age to highlight certain points in a text and respond to it. I don't think it's unfair to expect some sort of commitment to the forum and making your point more clear. The only reason why I can see this is a problem for people is that they are lazy, and just want to reply without really formatting it. Quoting certain sentences makes your point more clear because you are only addressing that little snippet rather than the whole text you should do it for your benefit and not just everyone else on the forum.

[Jet Cash]

That's the first time I hear that someone is unsatisfied with 'quote' function  Yes, many users use it clumsy and unnecessary, but what to do with that people?! Their long quote posts irritate only you and couple more people here, but I really do not see a way to do something with this! It is just impossible to teach people to use 'quote' only when it is really necessary and to take only a part of a text instead to 'quote' a whole thread.

It isn't just a couple - it's quite a lot of members.

What to do with them? That's easy, you put them on ignore. As a very general rule of thumb, a person who is too lazy to snip a long quote, probably doesn't have anything worthwhile to say.

[actmyname]

I think we've also avoided the topic of massive quote pyramids. If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's when people nest quotes and never remove them, making the discussion have a giant pyramid of content before one's actual reply.
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Example (with only 4 people):

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i agree because the bitcoin will rise and fall because volatility

This is ugly. We should not quote in this fashion.

[krishnaverma]

Why is it impossible? Your taught at a young age to highlight certain points in a text and respond to it.

Is this universal ? I was an above average student and I do not think that such thing was taught to us ever.

Forum etiquette are quite rare especially on a free forum accessible to everyone from different parts of the world. Again, this can be subjective, something considered cool at some place may be offensive to members from a certain place.

[Jet Cash]

something considered cool at some place may be offensive to members from a certain place.

Exactly, and oversized quotes by lazy posters, and those horrible  horizontal pyramids, are offensive to most members here.

[Chaki]

I used the quote method to answer a question inside a thread that is not related to the main topic since he ask after leaving his or her answer I think that it would be nice to use it because your answer will be off topic if you don't use the quoting way.

Second is, I used the quote info from outside source just to share as answer but never claim it's mine. or you just feel little agony every time you read thread with that kind of quote message and more likely a short conversation?? lol

[Talk merit]

Quotes are fine if they are short. It's the long ones with embedded images that are the problem. You can also use the author tag to provide attribution. for example.

I still believe it is wrong to consider age, ethnicity, rank, or inside leg measurement when considering whether to award merits. Content is king, and presentation is the queen. If you marry the two, then you have a prince of a post.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Quotes are fine if they are short. It's the long ones with embedded images that are the problem. You can also use the author tag to provide attribution. for example.

Yep, yep, yep.  Early on I think I probably was just as guilty as anyone else of quoting huge blocks of text, but as of late I've realized how unnecessary that is, and in some cases counterproductive.  I've definitely learned to quote essentially the part of a post I'm replying to.  If it's a short post I'll quote the whole thing out of laziness, but I agree with OP that there are some folks who go overboard in quoting things unnecessarily, and it just looks horrible and makes for much scrolling. 

Particularly egregious is when someone quotes the OP of a signature campaign in the services section just to write a one word reply.  That drives me nuts.

[Jet Cash]

That's interesting. I gave my post it's own subject title, and when you quoted my post, it took that title for your post, and not the thread title. I didn't realise that SMF did that.

[illiki23]

Please stop unnecessary quote comments

Everyone on this forum should be aware of making this forum more better.
I'm overlooking some users are using unnecessary "quote" option when it's really don't need. This makes a thread looks messy and spammy to me (probably to everyone). Also, it's very irritating to read these comments with a huge "quote".
Usually, when we reply to a thread, it should mean the original post. So, there is no need to quote the original post unless it has something to mention. If need to quote a few lines, we can do that. Why should we quote a full original post? Useless and irritating. Here is a recent example of this kind of comments, and here is another one.

Need reference to good/perfect use of quote while giving comments? Here is one good example, take a look. Here is another good example.

Note: My intention is not to hurt any individual user. All reference found at random.
Hope this post reduce the number of the focused user's behavior.

We remove the divs with the 'quote' class when scraping user's post data and performing analytics.  It would not be a far fetch to write a browser extension which does this for viewers.   Though sometimes you might actually want to see the quote in context.

[Emilyp]

The quote stuff is really annoying. It makes a thread look very long and someone looking for quick replies will find it difficult to navigate as quoted posts is lays everywhere.

[TheUltraElite]

Is this universal ? I was an above average student and I do not think that such thing was taught to us ever.

Some things are not taught like that in school or so but become habits if you try on your own. But then again since I am a neat freak myself I do it at times to mark notes and stuff with highlighted points. Something like marking some special stuff in a wall of text.

Forum etiquette are quite rare especially on a free forum accessible to everyone from different parts of the world. Again, this can be subjective, something considered cool at some place may be offensive to members from a certain place.

Actually the reply button is used to reply to the topic on the OP. If there are multiple replies before your reply is going to come, you can use the quote function to reply to several people in a single post and prevent multiple "bump" posts one after the other.

The quote stuff is really annoying. It makes a thread look very long and someone looking for quick replies will find it difficult to navigate as quoted posts is lays everywhere.

Maybe you need to look beyond your shitposting quota of the day and learn a few things on how to talk in the thread with etiquette and then come back? Might even fetch you some merits in future.

[Welsh]

Is this universal ? I was an above average student and I do not think that such thing was taught to us ever.

Yeah I think so. Have you not ever read a book and was told to pick specific points and give your opinion on them? This is a skill which is almost always needed in university but, from my experience was taught well before this stage. It's vital when reading a large text to identify the statement and respond to it.

Maybe you've been given instructions by your boss and he's included a lot of jargon within it or has generalized and his instructions aren't role specific. You would likely want to identify which instructions apply to you and therefore you highlight these to make it more clear to yourself.

This was drilled into us right through comprehensive school. I can't answer from those who haven't been to school.

[DooMAD]

While I do agree with the general idea, I also wouldn't want it to go to the opposite extreme.  It's possible to quote too selectively, to the point where one sentence could be taken out of context and the intended meaning of the overall paragraph can be distorted or lost.  I try to keep quoted text to a sensible length, but at the same time, I don't want to ignore any overarching points being made by the person I'm responding to.