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"Disclaimer: I am not an expert on cryptocurrency, but I can tell you this much; neither are most of the people at the Consensus conference at the Hilton Midtown this week.

There's another thing, the crypto gold rush is not entirely global. Not yet. Most of the serious money players and developers come from a handful of nations – the U.S., China, Russia, Japan, South Korea and Israel. European money is flowing into projects, with wealth managers putting money into crypto funds. Latin America hasn’t really discovered the blockchain, though Brazil has hopped on the bandwagon and will be the leader there.

It’s Blockchain Week in New York. Blame the traffic on the rain, and those guys with badges around their necks.

Startups are touting their next genius idea – a new real estate project, a new mining app, a new coin pegged to the euro. These are the people I met there. This is what they are dreaming about, how they hope to make it happen, and what they think about their rivals.

Names have been changed to protect the innocent.

“If Mockba goes to the party, I’m not going to the party,” one tech reporter tells me about a Russian founder I have never met. I ask him why he wouldn’t go to one of the myriad parties being thrown in Manhattan this week. He used choice words and dropped F-bombs. “I spent a half hour listening to this joker try to sell me on his project and how he was going to raise $200 million dollars.”


I get it. One Russian the other week told me he was hoping to raise a few hundred million in an initial coin offering, based on a fintech company he was only just building. Worth noting, Russian messaging app Telegram raised about a billion dollars recently from accredited investors. Telegram has been around for years and has an actual product, but makes no money.

We're at the Baccarat bar; an interview set up by a foreign PR rep for off-record sources and on-record sources who do not live here. It's Russian style, with baccrat crystal chandeliers, and a crystal candle holder on the table keeping the flame. The cocktail waitress tells me someone stole their candle holder from this very table just the other day. “We put it on her tab. She got mad and said she didn’t take it. Then we told her we had her on camera.” I look up…there are cameras everywhere.

 
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Rapper Snoop Dogg performing at the XRP Community Night on Tuesday May 15. He asked the crowd if they wanted to smoke pot with him and the crowd erupted in cheers. That was a yes.

The three people I am sitting with are basically conspiring against the global financial system and working to build a cashless society. They are raising millions for startups issuing new currencies.  There’s the Sheikh. There’s the Russian. And there’s a Japanese woman. She finds out I write for Forbes. She wants to take selfies with me. We will call her Tokyo Rose.  She's a fixer. She puts hungry startups in front of gambling Japanese. She claims she raised over $40 million in a year by herself, and that it was easier than she imagined, and that prior to discovering this new beat, she was a struggling actress in Los Angeles.

The Sheikh is leaning over the table, almost in a whisper. He has gold cufflings. I say, "so it's like black bags full of money flown around in private jets. Only you put it on this thing called a blockchain."  Yes, the Sheikh says about his particular project, "though I would never say it's exactly like that."

On Monday, the first day of the Coindesk-organized forum, there is a guy in tie-dyed standing on the street corner complaining about losing money in some a blockchain platform called NEM. He claims to have lost the equivalent of around $1.4 million in their cryptocurrrency. That's got to suck.

Three lamborghini’s pull up to the curb outside the Hilton, almost as if they were rubbing it in his face. One has Montana plates. The other one has Florida plates. The Montana one revs his engine curbside, marking his territory. It could be rented out by one of those people someone like the Tokyo Rose raised $20 million for, for some dating app for escorts or some such thing.

Inside, the line snakes, hundreds of people deep. A Hilton employee dressed in black tells me he has never seen a single event so crowded at the hotel.

At the event, a media company under your name makes you a man-magnet. It's best just to be nice. Some come up to you like they know you. They are from all over the world. They do everything, though most of the the things they do you have never heard of or understand why someone or some industry would want it. But that is why you are not a millionaire, and they are, or will be, I guess.

I meet a crypto fund manager from LA. He is just dressesd in a T-shirt and jeans and a gold chain. We talk off the record. He's advising a new Brazilian cryptocurrency exchange. I tell him Foxbit is here. He's never heard of them. Don't worry, I tell him. Neither have I. But they have over a 35% of Brazil's cryptocurrency exchange market, which, I was told by them, grew fold in about 12 months. "That's why we are going there," the LA money man says.

Another guy bum rushes me before going down an escalator. Inkd -- a news aggregator. He's telling me all about it.

During lunch, Telegram gets bashed. They're bleeding like $100 million a year.  Pavel Durov, the founder, is a great marketer. If he and Vladimir Putin got along, he would be a great advocate for Russians in new tech. But he is not, so Russians are often doomed to feign non-Russian citizenship, or are stuck in Russia, because as we know from headlines day in and day out, every Russian is "close to Putin".

For money makers, it is clear that the safe trade is the arbitrage trade: buy one bitcoin on one exchange that costs 2 points less than another, sell it on the more expensive exchange. Boom. Whole businesses are being built on capitalizing on the inefficiences in the market. The Japanese and Koreans, of course, are the masters at this.

Tuesday night was Ripple night, officially known as the XRP Community Night. Snoop Dogg is back stage waiting to come on and there is a cloud of smoke hovering around; a thick Indonesia fog.

Another California fund manager is talking to me. He's been here before and knows the drill. "Snoop will come out and give his blunt to people standing in the front row," he says. Then the conspiracy, "there's a Ripple investor who had a lot of money. He went to Mexico on vacation and he died. They claim suicide. I don't believe it," he says, telling me someone should look into it.

There is a split at Consensus and within the blockckhain/crypto crowd as a whole. It is between the IBM corporate types and the hoodie developers who live their life on their laptops and smart phones.  It is between the practical money makers, and the anarcho-libertarians.

We have seen this kind of battle before and we know who wins.

XRP is advertising for a borderless society. It's plastered on a cement beam by the Snoop stage at Industria on Washington Street downtown. But it's not the George Soros open borders kind. It's the tech developer kind -- the Shiekh in Dubai, the Tokyo Rose on a plane, the Russians in Palo Alto with the Americans and the Indians. And, like moving a jpg from your webrowser to your desktop, able to move money -- be it $100 or $1 million -- from a crypto bank account in Malta to one in Singapore. That's their open border.

 
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Will work for NEM.

The California fund manager was right. Snoop is smoking weed again. He gives it to the crowd. The foreigners (I only assume that) are making heavy metal signs with their hands. I don't get that one. Is that a hip hop thing now?

A New Jersey PR rep for new cryptocurrency startups reminds me to watch out for these characters. “You can’t always believe these guys,” he says, though I don’t know where he got the idea that I did, or would. More than half of the time I have no clue what they are even trying to tell me. Most of the time it is me telling them what I think their product is rather than them telling me what it is. It's the only way I can understand it.

See if you can figure this one out...

There is a company presenting at Conensus called Decenturion. They were raising money to buy land and were issuing passports. A gimmick. But there is pile of passports issued already and a crowd around the tall Ukrainian woman taking the pictures. Stupid me, I got one. I'll probably be spammed from now to eternity by a 20-something year old millionaire who will sell my Gmail account to Romanian hackers. “The crypto guys are crazy," the Jersey man says.  "Some are idiot-savants. Honestly, I think they’re on acid.”

Back on the street corner outside of the Hilton, the NEM guy who lost his shirt is either passed out, or taking a nap. He looks like a poor soul on the streets of New York; just another poor man who lost everything here. Instead of the state owing him something, he thinks some crypto start up owes him restitution. Maybe NEM does. But I cannot talk to him today. There he is, lying still on the sidewalk asleep. Someone give this guy a real coin, please. And an umbrella. It looks like a hard rain is going to fall."

 
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May 16, 2018, 02:20:44 PM
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If we are not careful enough to investigate and do our research before investing in an ICO then we are just committing a monetary suicide. Not all ICO's are made to help the community but rather most of them was made with a dream that they can be millionaires if they can sell their coins to the market. The problem is that not all coins have a project or program that will ensure the stability of the coin. So I guess instead on investing on ICO's or to any coins being sold in the consensus I suggest you place it on bitcoin.
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May 18, 2018, 02:47:17 PM
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May be you are not expert, but this post was very informative, which i really appreciate. there are any kind of ICOs. sad part is maybe not all of them are treader friendly. hope people will do much more research to find out the right kind of ICOs for them
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May 18, 2018, 05:05:01 PM
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Agreed with @Xester. Participating in ICOs are very sensible. Because traders are willing to invest there. But choosing the real and profitable ico is very technical task. So you can put your investment in btc or other altcoin.
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May 18, 2018, 11:08:22 PM
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Yes, we should not blindly invest on any coin. We should do a through research about the background of a cryptocurrency before investing on it. If we become careful, then it might help us from escaping heavy losses in future.

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May 18, 2018, 11:28:43 PM
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But choosing the real and profitable ico is very technical task. So you can put your investment in btc or other altcoin.

There is nothing technical about it. ICO's are either profitable in the end or not, and that doesn't depend on them being legit or outright scams. It's nothing more than a gamble from which you should accept its risks. There have been enough legitimate ICO projects that have failed and thus lead to major losses overall, and to add more, the far majority of these ICO's will fail eventually. From there you are indeed better off just sticking with developed and matured coins that actually serve a purpose. Betting on ICO's can work in your favor once, but eventually you'll lose more than you get back from it, which applies to gambling as well. I however think that people don't care and will blindly invest in ICO's anyway....
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May 19, 2018, 05:21:25 AM
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With this statement we can know that many conferences happening nowadays about bitcoin and this bitcoin is an emerging sector for future because of its market value also the world is getting internet facilities anywhere so we can see the digitalization of this world so most of them likes to trade in online process so it’s great to trade in on line. Yeah they motivate us for this not mean that they don’t have any reason if you invest the price will increase so it helps them because it’s like share market.
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May 19, 2018, 05:38:51 AM
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Whether we like it or not, Consensus is a successful event. However, not all attendees do not feel it like it is. Well in some way it is a push to everybody involve in blockchain. It is a much needed conference to let the world know and be aware about the easiness of using blockchain and cryptocurrency in general. Annual conferences and events are good to the blockchain and the fintech world.
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May 19, 2018, 09:18:12 AM
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If anyone wants to invest something then you have to some research about this investment. I think invest in ICO is not a great decision for investor so we are try to avoid this investment.
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May 20, 2018, 11:55:43 PM
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Investing decision is the most important thin for the investors. As we know every investment decision is associated with risk. Investment without analyzing the market and history and other investing insights can prove a cancer for the investors. Now many and many new coins are coming in the market. Before investing in other, one must think about bitcoin. Bitcoin is the oldest and stabilized coin which has very less risk than others. Investing in other coin instead of bitcoin is more risky decision   
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May 21, 2018, 04:00:19 AM
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unfortunately this is not at all a "gold rush", this current situation is more like a "fake gold fever"!
every day there are a lot of newbies running around with their money in their hands trying to invest in a lot of crap that is basically the same thing copied with a new name to create a new ICO token or rarely these days a new full cryptocurrency. they all want to get rich and they are all desperate to do it as fast as possible so they throw their money away at these scammers and lose money.

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