2013-11-23 - NYTimes Blog - Study Suggests Link Between DPR and Satoshi

[Jouke]

I'm not overly impressed... Given the suspicion is that the FBI confiscated the Silk Road "hot wallets", it sounds very plausible to me that this link is simply Satoshi (or some other very early adopter) making use of the Silk Road as a mixing service

It doesn't even look like that at all, the "early adopter" coins in question are the ones sent to 12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv.

Seems weird to me to assign that particular party to Satoshi: the earliest of the connected blocks was mined a week after Bitcoin's public announcement... and it aggregated up all that coin in a single address, in a pretty decidedly non-anonymous way.

What it looks like to me is that party sent a bunch of funds to an early exchange (perhaps Britcoin, based on the date), and presumably the at that point they changed ownership.

Again, I'm confused and disappointed. Like the first from these authors this paper seems really seems second rate, not well researched— even about the operations of Bitcoin, and rather high on soundbite-grade speculation compared to substance.

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=I}ruid

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[cr1776]

This is a method of trying to discredit Bitcoon by trying to tie Satoshi to DPR. Then they can try and tarnish the whole thing by smearing him. 

[Peter Todd]

It doesn't even look like that at all, the "early adopter" coins in question are the ones sent to 12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv.

Seems weird to me to assign that particular party to Satoshi: the earliest of the connected blocks was mined a week after Bitcoin's public announcement... and it aggregated up all that coin in a single address, in a pretty decidedly non-anonymous way.

What it looks like to me is that party sent a bunch of funds to an early exchange (perhaps Britcoin, based on the date), and presumably the at that point they changed ownership.

Again, I'm confused and disappointed. Like the first from these authors this paper seems really seems second rate, not well researched— even about the operations of Bitcoin, and rather high on soundbite-grade speculation compared to substance.

http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=I}ruid

That was quick: http://dustintrammell.com/

Good work!

[gmaxwell]

That was quick: http://dustintrammell.com/

Well, not really, he's what you get when you Google for that address.  He's still a user on the forum and we've had the "zomg you're in the early transactions" discussions with him before here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=311328.msg3347186#msg3347186

[Peter Todd]

That was quick: http://dustintrammell.com/

Well, not really, he's what you get when you Google for that address.  He's still a user on the forum and we've had the "zomg you're in the early transactions" discussions with him before here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=311328.msg3347186#msg3347186

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I'm not implying the guy is Satoshi, just saying that we probably figured out who had the privkey's for that address without writing a bad paper in the process. When you look at the guys resume it's not surprising he would have heard about it early on and been interested - security consulting.

Besides, he can't be Satoshi: I'm Satoshi.

[gmaxwell]

See also: "Vigorous debate" over Shamir/Ron's supposedly DPR-linked "Founder" ends in minutes.

[Raoul Duke]

TL;DR : 13 pages of unfounded speculative Bitcoin FUD sponsored by CitiBank.

[n8rwJeTt8TrrLKPa55eU]

Ivory tower academics who don't even know how to use a search engine, living off past accomplishments and reputation, spitting out speculative theories not caring who gets smeared in the process.

If this kind of sloppy research was being released by a commercial entity, they would've lost all their subscribers long ago.  But these guys will suffer no consequences whatsoever from drawing one wrong conclusion after another.

The financial system isn't the only entrenched fat lazy dinosaur who could use some disruption.  The educational establishment in most countries needs to be absolutely rethought and overhauled bottom-up.

[Gabi]

This is a method of trying to discredit Bitcoon by trying to tie Satoshi to DPR. Then they can try and tarnish the whole thing by smearing him. 

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An absurd attempt, it shows how much desperate they are

[imfed]

I'm not implying the guy is Satoshi, just saying that we probably figured out who had the privkey's for that address without writing a bad paper in the process. When you look at the guys resume it's not surprising he would have heard about it early on and been interested - security consulting.

It's official for more than a month.

I can't blame the "scientists" for having the suspicion that Dustin Trammell is Satoshi. I thought so too, because the owner of 12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv mined a coin when the blockchain was only 10 days old, just one day after Satoshi sent his very first test transaction to Hal Finney. I blame them for connecting the owner of this address to SR though.

Facts we know for sure:
Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid was a member of 'The Cryptography Mailing List" and (one of) the first miner(s). He is the owner of 12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv and dumped his coins in June 2011 (worth $1.7m then) when Bitcoin was very volatile (after the first media attention of Silk Road and Bitcoin) on Bitcoin OTC.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=311216.0

It's not suprising that his coins went throgh SR because back then demand for Bitcoin was mainly driven by SR users. It's very likely that he sold to people who spent their coins on SR.

[dustintrammell]

Facts we know for sure:
Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid was a member of 'The Cryptography Mailing List" and (one of) the first miner(s). He is the owner of 12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv and dumped his coins in June 2011 (worth $1.7m then) when Bitcoin was very volatile (after the first media attention of Silk Road and Bitcoin) on Bitcoin OTC.

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[solex]

Great blog post to clear the fog of disinformation.

[beetcoin]

Facts we know for sure:
Dustin D. Trammell a.k.a. I)ruid was a member of 'The Cryptography Mailing List" and (one of) the first miner(s). He is the owner of 12higDjoCCNXSA95xZMWUdPvXNmkAduhWv and dumped his coins in June 2011 (worth $1.7m then) when Bitcoin was very volatile (after the first media attention of Silk Road and Bitcoin) on Bitcoin OTC.

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this is what conspiracy theorists would say: "OF COURSE IF HE IS SATOSHI HE WOULDN'T ADMIT IT!"

[sergio]

linking Satoshi to the Silk Road is a bunch of bs. This is clearly an unjustified attack on Satoshi that out of all places the people in this forum should know better.

Lets keeps facts straight:
The bankers/wallstreet/uk and us governments are against Bitcoin, especially the banking industry, they had declared the war on Bitcoin and they are loosing the war as it can be seen by the huge momentum Bitcoin has right now, this is a last resort attempt to destroy the Bitcoin, they will fail but in the process they are trying to tarnish the good name of Satoshi who highly deserves a novel price instead of having his name tarnish by accusations which have been proven to be false.

In the end by late 2014 wallstreet and bankers will join the Bitcoin revolution, and Bitcoin will have clearly won the war, by then expect Bitcoin to be over 10000 each.
 
As of now what the Banks want to do is discredit Satoshi with the goal of forcing governments to enable more regulation to the point where compliance is prohibitively expensive to comply with the goal of making Bitcoin price to collapse, it will not happen, geeks and hackers know well, and vc as long they make profits will be taking the Bitcoin train to economic freedom, eventually even Bankers will be using Bitcoin.

[jojo69]

the Israeli douchebags have retracted their claim, what a couple of retards

[LiteCoinGuy]

the Israeli douchebags have retracted their claim, what a couple of retards

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=349193.0


knew it.