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February 05, 2014, 04:48:56 PM
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Your IP 'll not be hidden. If you are journalist in Sochi who is using public jabber with OTR, you 'll be arrested for spreading true stories anyway Smiley
I'll use twitter. It is HTTPS. If I'm paranoid that it knows my IP - I'll use Tor.

You just dont understand what it means - secure IM.

You just don't understand that people love money and will use free alternatives for simple messaging.

SO... u think twitter is secure? have you read all that things about NSA obama and all that friends?

i think intel is talking about IM
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February 05, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
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Final state can't be predicted. But u can't get different results if u have no truly random events. Transaction processing is completely deterministic, we just have to make sure we don't include RANDOMIZE opcode.

I guess that the block hash itself could be used as a "random" piece of data if required - am still not convinced of how this is going to work but obviously it is early days yet (looking forward to reading more about the technical details).

With CIYAM anyone can create 100% generated C++ web applications in literally minutes.

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February 05, 2014, 04:53:05 PM
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Hi guys,

Just saw this one the nextcoin forums. Has this been seen yet?
Can anyone give him an answer? Seems like a "hidden" cost for most users.

https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,3755.0.html

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Is there any way to reduce or outright throttle bandwidth usage of the NXT client?

I've been running NXT client on Windows since mid Dec, upgrading to newest version when new ones are out.  The client uses between 150KB/s to 500KB/s.  This works out to 390GB to 1.2TB(!) per month.  My ISP charges dearly for exceeding 300GB/mo.  I first found this out because in Jan I unexpectedly hit 500GB of usage - thanks largely to NXT client.  In the first 10 hours of the new month, NXT client (now version 0.5.11) has already racked up 18GB of transfers.

I have high confidence in this next-gen currency, and want to participate in the network. And I don't want to lose NXT due to transparent forging penalties if I don't participate. But I can't pay Comcast another $50-200+ a month to be able to run such a bandwidth hungry app.

Please let me know any way to reduce the NXT client bandwidth consumption, and/or to set explicit throttle limits on it.  My apologies if this should be common knowledge, but I've already searched these forums and general internet for throttling or bandwidth related docs or posts and found nothing.  Thanks.


silence.... Roll Eyes

were is the great messias now?

BTW coudnt you wait to expose this till I was done selling, now everyone will start selling damn

and there is more... just wait...

 Roll Eyes ?

Let sum up what we have finished here:

- Decentralized Alias System / DNS: yes but not Complete
- Basic DDoS Protection: Complete?
- Decentralized Asset Exchange / Colored Coins:NO
- Transparent Mining:NO
- Arbitrary Messaging: Complete but absolete
- Instant Transactions:NO
- Decentralized Marketplace / Auction:NO
- Distributed Storage:NO
- Multi-signatures:NO
- Blockchain Shrinking:NO
- Two-phase Payments:NO
- Voting System:NO
- Reputation System:NO
- Decentralized Mixing Service:NO
- Distributed Computing:NO
- Smart Contracts:NO
- Hardware Wallets:NO
- Advanced DDoS Protection Project Kharo:NO
- white paper: NO
- Client:NO

What do we have:

bloated Blockchain that uses GB's of traffic that no one can afford!
hot air
unclaimed coins
12 laughing rich initial founders.
rats leaving the sinking ship already


So first, u pump up nxt on jan 1st:

"Hi
As an professional investor I am looking to throw 7 figures into crypto, did months on research and came to the conclusion that NXT is the best way to go. NXT has all advantage of being the first and does have more features than eMunie, og. that name alone , the major thing about emunie as they sell themselves as decentralized but the creator is running it like a tyrannical dictator , there is a whole construction setup around him but he has the last word in all decisions. Also they can “print” eMunie when they decide to.
But hey everyone should look for these things by themselves just telling, yours eMule"

and now you want to dump nxt...

Congratulations on winning this month's "Douchebag Dumper Of The Month" award!

Thanks for the FUD... now beat it jackass and go back and post on Quark's thread!

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February 05, 2014, 04:53:20 PM
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I'll use twitter. It is HTTPS. If I'm paranoid that it knows my IP - I'll use Tor.
SO... u think twitter is secure? have you read all that things about NSA obama and all that friends?

There is a sentence about Tor which is older, more reviewed and have bigger community. And it is free and open-source.

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February 05, 2014, 04:54:00 PM
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Time to move to smaller fees. What MIN fee should we set? Remember that lower values make it cheaper to bloat the blockchain.
- 0.1 NXT , not lower

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February 05, 2014, 04:57:52 PM
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nxtchg made a pool if he has sto stay or live and now also if everyone want he to stay he will leave and close his exchange?

Don't act like a kid.
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February 05, 2014, 04:58:35 PM
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My vote for 0.1 NXT.
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February 05, 2014, 04:59:53 PM
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Maybe Nxt should aim for a more conservative 100 TPS to avoid ending up looking very silly in a few months time.

100 TPS is a good number too. After we test this rate we will see if it's feasable to add one zero more.

Finally. Wink
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February 05, 2014, 05:00:29 PM
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You? Of course you should not. It's designed for people thinking about secure messaging.

For secure messages I can use OTR for free.

The entire vision behind Nxt is to have the longest feature list among all alt-coins.  

Nxt - "Everything but the kitchen sink".


I guess this is a good time to announce that I plan to sell a Nxt kitchen sink by end of '15.
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February 05, 2014, 05:01:14 PM
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Too late 4 what?

For dump. Emule's deeds don't follow his words, I bet I lose nothing if ignore his further posts.

You loose some fun. Wink
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February 05, 2014, 05:02:51 PM
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Guys & Gals,

Can we do each other a favor and ignore Emule, as a community act?  Wink

He adds nothing of value to the discussion and distracts many of us.

If you are with me on this, hit the [Ignore] button, it's there to be used!

I agree with this completely.  I like to come here n monitor new developments with nxt to make new nxt videos... i really don't have time to waste on reading a dozen pages of emule's fud.

Can all the developer's agree to just not answer these types of Newbie Nonsense n focus on informing us with nxt development or answer folk's questions about nxt.

Jackasses will always be jackasses so why waste time trying to change their minds.

Thanks for everyone's cooperation.

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February 05, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
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Release 0.5.12

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.5.12.zip

sha256: 30856c5f76b4194d40ece68d480956999ff8072b7b6a78b0be7d9da535dc969a

Change log:

Fixed a critical bug. Everybody should upgrade immediately.


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February 05, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
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Fee: 0.1 NXT
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February 05, 2014, 05:03:53 PM
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For dump. Emule's deeds don't follow his words, I bet I lose nothing if ignore his further posts.

You loose some fun. Wink

He wasn't funny enough anyway. He is far from FC who has unimaginable potential. I wish more jokers come to this thread.
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February 05, 2014, 05:05:12 PM
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Time to move to smaller fees. What MIN fee should we set? Remember that lower values make it cheaper to bloat the blockchain.

Discuss.

Don't agree. Wait until April and ask again.
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February 05, 2014, 05:05:51 PM
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You? Of course you should not. It's designed for people thinking about secure messaging.

For secure messages I can use OTR for free.

The entire vision behind Nxt is to have the longest feature list among all alt-coins.  

Nxt - "Everything but the kitchen sink".


I guess this is a good time to announce that I plan to sell a Nxt kitchen sink by end of '15.

That could be one of the features in BCNxt 'secret plans' that he has "yet to reveal".

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February 05, 2014, 05:07:34 PM
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For dump. Emule's deeds don't follow his words, I bet I lose nothing if ignore his further posts.

You loose some fun. Wink

He wasn't funny enough anyway. He is far from FC who has unimaginable potential. I wish more jokers come to this thread.

Thanks for the compliment.  How's the weather in St. Petersburg these days?

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February 05, 2014, 05:07:38 PM
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Fee should not be static. It's not good to set a static value without knowing how the market evolves.

As a quick fix i vote for 0.1 because forging needs to yield some income. This quick fix should have a set deadline. Say 1. April.
Until then, a new automatic fee adjustment system has to be agreed on.

I think it would be wise to keep block output about constant and have a maximum fee. Adjust each block based on a moving average.

I'd like an static fee. Voted on by the community via VS.

It gives everybody a baseline. Ever-changing fees? What's the point?
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February 05, 2014, 05:07:41 PM
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I'll use twitter. It is HTTPS. If I'm paranoid that it knows my IP - I'll use Tor.
SO... u think twitter is secure? have you read all that things about NSA obama and all that friends?

There is a sentence about Tor which is older, more reviewed and have bigger community. And it is free and open-source.

I actually agree with you when you think about messaging as a stand alone feature.  I look at it this way.  Secure messaging is just one tool I use when completing a fully independent Nxt transaction.  Meaning, at one point you will be able to browse products, communicate with seller, initiate purchase, put Nxt in escrow (receive item), send funds, leave feedback, all within Nxt client.  That is just one example of hundreds that could be used with Nxt secure messaging.
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February 05, 2014, 05:08:46 PM
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I would also be worried more about potential forks if the state could not be predicted in advance.

Final state can't be predicted. But u can't get different results if u have no truly random events. Transaction processing is completely deterministic, we just have to make sure we don't include RANDOMIZE opcode.

So, no timestamps and the like?
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