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February 05, 2014, 06:14:08 PM
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Shouldnt this announcement be in big bold red letters all over the place? How do you expect everyone to upgrade due to a critical bug if you don't make it seem serious and disclose the matter nonchalantly.

The fact Jean-Luc urges everyone to update for a critical issue is enough to do it. Reasons might not be disclosed to avoid malicious exploits in a 0.5.11 vulnerability.

Sorry, but it is not.

If not updating has such large consequences, it needs to be coordinated at least with nxtcrypto so QBTC can put it in the front page.

People who don´t read this thread have no idea they need to update and basically no way of knowing it.

Also: 0.1. No need to go lower at this point.  Smiley

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February 05, 2014, 06:14:22 PM
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1) As I see it, a friend of mine would say: that plays no barrel organ. If a malicious forger uses a different client, what prevents him from executing some op or some pre-defined scripts differently that they are supposed to?

This gives no advantage at all. Actually this leads to blockchain corruption. The malicious forger will create his own fork which he will be forging alone.
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February 05, 2014, 06:15:07 PM
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Fixed a critical bug. Everybody should upgrade immediately.
So my paranoia wake up.

What is the bug?! Do I need to decompile pair of sources and do diff and than do analyse just before upgrade?
Do you try to hide something from evil hackers? I think they are first who do analysis on decompiled sources...

Don't waste ur time, it will be fully disclosed anyway.

Shouldnt this announcement be in big bold red letters all over the place? How do you expect everyone to upgrade due to a critical bug if you don't make it seem serious and disclose the matter nonchalantly.

let me:

Upgrade to 5.12 NOW, please.

There, much less nonchalant....

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February 05, 2014, 06:15:17 PM
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Fixed a critical bug. Everybody should upgrade immediately.
So my paranoia wake up.

What is the bug?! Do I need to decompile pair of sources and do diff and than do analyse just before upgrade?
Do you try to hide something from evil hackers? I think they are first who do analysis on decompiled sources...

Don't waste ur time, it will be fully disclosed anyway.

Shouldnt this announcement be in big bold red letters all over the place? How do you expect everyone to upgrade due to a critical bug if you don't make it seem serious and disclose the matter nonchalantly.

Well I made it a global sticky at NXTCrypto Forums

and have asked all translators to notify as well
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February 05, 2014, 06:15:39 PM
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Life is pain. People are always comlain anyway...
Btw, I'm almost indifferent to fee amount. I'm just provide another opinion to this thread. Just to be opposite, you know Smiley Just to see something different than "Yeah! 0.01 fee! Now!"

Yeah, I'm indifferent as well, but I promise to send you .1Nxt when the time comes.
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February 05, 2014, 06:15:48 PM
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Shouldnt this announcement be in big bold red letters all over the place? How do you expect everyone to upgrade due to a critical bug if you don't make it seem serious and disclose the matter nonchalantly.

Jean-Luc said "immediatelly", why do we need big bold red letters?

Because, people. Not machines. Wink

Well, u have 2 options:

1. Do as Jean-Luc says
2. Don't do it, lose money and next time u'll do as Jean-Luc says
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February 05, 2014, 06:15:55 PM
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1) As I see it, a friend of mine would say: that plays no barrel organ. If a malicious forger uses a different client, what prevents him from executing some op or some pre-defined scripts differently that they are supposed to?

This gives no advantage at all. Actually this leads to blockchain corruption. The malicious forger will create his own fork which he will be forging alone.

How's that fork being defined? By majority vote?
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February 05, 2014, 06:16:12 PM
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Shouldnt this announcement be in big bold red letters all over the place? How do you expect everyone to upgrade due to a critical bug if you don't make it seem serious and disclose the matter nonchalantly.

Jean-Luc said "immediatelly", why do we need big bold red letters?

Because it just blends and gets washed away with the torrent of posts. Really, there should be a separate thread for important client updates and everyone should be directed to it so we have an easy way to check for important info like this without it getting buried in 5 minutes. The only reason I caught jean lucs post was because it was quoted on the most recent page and I happened to scroll down to it.

Also because the emphasis is clearly needed if its a critical bug. The average user, if they even happen to catch that post, isn't going to drop everything they are doing and upgrade their client unless it actually seems urgent. They will read that, tell themselves they'll do it a bit later, then forget. Does this bug put users money at risk?

Look at my post above.
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February 05, 2014, 06:16:54 PM
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How's that fork being defined? By majority vote?

All the other forgers will reject blocks of this malicious forger.
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February 05, 2014, 06:17:49 PM
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Shouldnt this announcement be in big bold red letters all over the place? How do you expect everyone to upgrade due to a critical bug if you don't make it seem serious and disclose the matter nonchalantly.

Jean-Luc said "immediatelly", why do we need big bold red letters?

Because, people. Not machines. Wink

Well, u have 2 options:

1. Do as Jean-Luc says
2. Don't do it, lose money and next time u'll do as Jean-Luc says

CfB, that's not what I meant.

I mean it's people. Humans. They need 'big bold red letters'.
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February 05, 2014, 06:18:30 PM
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Well I made it a global sticky at NXTCrypto Forums

and have asked all translators to notify as well

I wouldn't do it. If ppl don't take Jean-Luc words seriously they deserve to learn a lesson.

Ah, that's right.
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February 05, 2014, 06:18:54 PM
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CfB, that's not what I meant.

I mean it's people. Humans. They need 'big bold red letters'.

Look at my post above Smiley
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February 05, 2014, 06:20:49 PM
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How's that fork being defined? By majority vote?

All the other forgers will reject blocks of this malicious forger.

Hope that suffices. 51% attack possible, right? Not by stake but by number of nodes?
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February 05, 2014, 06:21:28 PM
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Update to 0.5.12, critical bug in 0.5.11

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.5.12.zip

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February 05, 2014, 06:21:44 PM
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What about exchanges? Do you contact them explicitely about something like this so they are sure to address it?

I notified BTER.
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February 05, 2014, 06:22:33 PM
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CfB, that's not what I meant.

I mean it's people. Humans. They need 'big bold red letters'.

Look at my post above Smiley

Err which one? Cheesy You made so many.
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February 05, 2014, 06:23:09 PM
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Hope that suffices. 51% attack possible, right? Not by stake but by number of nodes?

Impossible. He hurts only himself.
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February 05, 2014, 06:23:41 PM
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Well I made it a global sticky at NXTCrypto Forums

and have asked all translators to notify as well

I wouldn't do it. If ppl don't take Jean-Luc words seriously they deserve to learn a lesson.

Ah, that's right.

What? Are you kidding me?

Yes, he's just a little joker tonight.

(And he needs some psychology lessons. Wink )
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February 05, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
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What? Are you kidding me?

I didn't notice that it's one of the main Nxt forums.
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February 05, 2014, 06:27:40 PM
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Update to 0.5.12, critical bug in 0.5.11

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.5.12.zip

+1

It's so easy to be constructive...

EDIT: I actually missed the trick in this... I just was reliefed to see someone simply post in red instead of discussing why this wasn't posted in red...
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