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February 05, 2014, 06:54:57 PM
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Well, I see potential for a lot of nodes dropping out (i.e. controlling the correct execution of the scripts) because they cannot afford executing them.

Let's get solid numbers of opcode/sec rate first.
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February 05, 2014, 06:55:51 PM
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Shouldnt this announcement be in big bold red letters all over the place? How do you expect everyone to upgrade due to a critical bug if you don't make it seem serious and disclose the matter nonchalantly.

The fact Jean-Luc urges everyone to update for a critical issue is enough to do it. Reasons might not be disclosed to avoid malicious exploits in a 0.5.11 vulnerability.

Sorry, but it is not.

If not updating has such large consequences, it needs to be coordinated at least with nxtcrypto so QBTC can put it in the front page.

People who don´t read this thread have no idea they need to update and basically no way of knowing it.

I understood buybitcoinscanada and others were questioning not only the discreet announcement, but why the details were not disclosed as well. Hence my comment.

I didn't intend to suggest that spreading the word was unnecessary, apologies if it appeared that way... I did update my spanish resources and nextcoin.org's three hours ago.
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February 05, 2014, 06:58:16 PM
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Well, I see potential for a lot of nodes dropping out (i.e. controlling the correct execution of the scripts) because they cannot afford executing them.

Let's get solid numbers of opcode/sec rate first.

Agreed.

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Just to have said it and not to forget it later: another note on that: we could limit the number of ops per block as we limit the number of transactions per block.
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February 05, 2014, 07:00:32 PM
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I understood buybitcoinscanada and others were questioning not only the discreet announcement, but why the details were not disclosed as well. Hence my comment.


Because it's dangerous to disclose these details at once. We call this zero-day exploit.
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February 05, 2014, 07:01:19 PM
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Calming down already.

I'm not the dev. They are.

This seems to be the common misconception. CfB is constantly hinting people that devs won't do all the work.

Of course, if you are not a dev, you are not a dev, but nothing keeps you from being a part of the NXT community and do what you can do to make NXT a success. Just nagging doesn't help.
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February 05, 2014, 07:01:35 PM
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If there was a guide for how to run a static-IP / VPS node, I might be willing to do it.

It's the same as running a local node. Just set ur IP in web.xml.

I've been looking all over for this little piece of information...  It is not available on the wiki, or the OP, etc.


There is something on the wiki

http://www.thenxtwiki.org/wiki/How-To:CreatePublicNode

I havent checked to see how you nav to it from the wiki frontpage though, so you may have given us a littly job to do.

It's linked off the menu on the left-hand side, through "How To Guides". You can also use the search bar; in this case, "VPS" is a particularly useful search term.

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February 05, 2014, 07:02:35 PM
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I vote for 0.1. How hard is it to implement min fee change? If it is very difficult (either program-wise or logistically) then maybe 0.01 is a better idea for now.

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February 05, 2014, 07:03:18 PM
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Might I suggest that you do not hold your breath as you wait for the apology?

I obviously can’t stay in a community where four words and a stupid smiley makes somebody wish you death and don’t even think about apologizing (don’t bother doing it now in case your consciousness suddenly wakes up, it’s too late).

And I am tired of being one guy on the other side of everybody else. A cohesive community is much more important than stupid arguments.
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Huh? Somebody gave you a death threat? That's crazy.
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he is referring to my previous PUBLIC comment to him in this thread that if he cant figure out how play nice here with everyone (what everyone else was asking of him) that he should go play in traffic as far as I was concerned.  Notice he never used the phrase "death threat", but that is exactly what he wanted you all to think and you fell for more of his drama.

Not sure what forum rules are regarding posting PM (it's a dick move at the least, unless illegal content) but he failed to include the rest of my PM since if he did it would not support his drama.  Since I was the sender of the PM then I can justify posting it here:
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But I am optimistic that instead of being a complete jackass to everyone who you think is going off in the wrong direction, that you can instead provide better guidance instead of reverting to a complete jackass. I do see 1 recent instance of that, perhaps you can keep it up?

i guess he couldnt
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February 05, 2014, 07:04:48 PM
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I vote for 0.1. How hard is it to implement min fee change? If it is very difficult (either program-wise or logistically) then maybe 0.01 is a better idea for now.

Why would you prefer a lower fee?
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February 05, 2014, 07:11:55 PM
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0.25   Passion_ltc
0.01   landomata
0.1   CIYAM Open
0.1   longzai1988
0.1   LiQio
0.1   pinarello
0.01   minusbalancer
0.1   TwinWinNerD
0.1   bitcoinpaul
0.1   BitcoinForumator
0.1   grex
0.01   smaragda
0.01   mthcl
0.05   Jack Needles
0.1   gimre
0.001   Intel
0.01   Hegemon
0.1   lyynx
0.1   voldemort628
0.01   Ezravdb
0.1   Noltev
0.01   fmiboy
0.1   bidjl29
0.1   abuelau
0.1   seek4dream
0.1   wesleyh
0.1   achimsmile
0.1   Sebastien256
0.01   rriky92
0.1   MyZhre
0.1   msin
0.1   Ludom
0.1   xadidos
1.0   EmoneyRu
0.1   w4llace
0.1   Mistafreeze
0.1   CryptKeeper
0.01   DrearyUrbanite
0.1   MarvellousMutant
0.1   NxtChoice
0.1   abctc
0.1   eXtatiC
0.1   sherpico77
0.1 or 0.01   opticalcarrier
0.01   ImmortAlex
0.1   EvilDave
0.1   Damelon
0.1 or 0.01   pandaisftw

Updated tally.  Tried to be thorough, but standard disclaimers apply...

Some want it the way it is:

In numbers: 1.0 Count me in on that.

There are several others.
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February 05, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
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hi all,

will the fee been adjusted for all kind of transactions?
It would be possible to reduce the fee eg. for AM and AE for testing only.
Would a selected reduction be an option?

cheers!

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February 05, 2014, 07:15:54 PM
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Calming down already.

I'm not the dev. They are.

This seems to be the common misconception. CfB is constantly hinting people that devs won't do all the work.

Of course, if you are not a dev, you are not a dev, but nothing keeps you from being a part of the NXT community and do what you can do to make NXT a success. Just nagging doesn't help.


He sponsors a lot of projects Marcus03.

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February 05, 2014, 07:17:28 PM
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Some want it the way it is:

In numbers: 1.0 Count me in on that.

There are several others.

Got you for 1.0.  Will repost after more to tally.

Can you point me to the other 1.0s?  Is a little difficult to tally when not clearly specified.

Hmm, I see. Most say just: 'why?' or the like Cheesy .... let me see. I send you PM.
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February 05, 2014, 07:27:07 PM
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Some want it the way it is:

In numbers: 1.0 Count me in on that.

There are several others.

Got you for 1.0.  Will repost after more to tally.

Can you point me to the other 1.0s?  Is a little difficult to tally when not clearly specified.

(and, I really don't *want* to be responsible for tallying these votes...  consolidating for review)

make a google docs spreadsheet, with 4 columns: 1, .1, .01, .001
then put each username in the respective column.  we all need to decided if/how community will allow 2 votes per person for different categories or let them put their 2 votes in 1 category
lock it down so only you can update it, but that anyone with direct link can view it
receive community's thanks for doing this work
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February 05, 2014, 07:44:29 PM
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1 NXT fee. I don't see any reason of lowering the fee today. Maybe then 1 NXT will be 1 USD.
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February 05, 2014, 07:46:40 PM
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Calming down already.

I'm not the dev. They are.

This seems to be the common misconception. CfB is constantly hinting people that devs won't do all the work.

Of course, if you are not a dev, you are not a dev, but nothing keeps you from being a part of the NXT community and do what you can do to make NXT a success. Just nagging doesn't help.


He sponsors a lot of projects Marcus03.

I know and that might be part of the reason I go balistic on these kind of post from him especially. It feels like he is the one to decide and critize and others who get sponsored (or not) got to do all the work.
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February 05, 2014, 07:58:42 PM
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I know and that might be part of the reason I go balistic on these kind of post from him especially. It feels like he is the one to decide and critize and others who get sponsored (or not) got to do all the work.

guys, lets all just take a step back for a second and take a deep breath.  it looks like we are well past the point where we start to fragment.  A few weeks ago we were all doing great as a team.  When did it start to change?  I went over to nextcoin to ask about something in the peerexplorer thread and got accused of hiding something for running my network of heavy-hallmarked VPSs.

Not sure what is going wrong here.. LOL is that the real experiment?  Is it really a social experiment BCNext is playing on us?  LOL
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February 05, 2014, 08:16:56 PM
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Congratulations on the new version! Cheesy
NRS (0.5.12) @ nxtio.org   -- UPDATED Wink

I vote 0.1 Fee for transactions!
and 0.01 for messages! 1 NXT for alias.


Please add in https://localhost:7875/admin.html, a option for see the hallmark of the current node. Read web.xml manually is impractical!

PD: Also would be great to add a way to know that accounts are unlocked in the node.  Wink
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February 05, 2014, 08:17:58 PM
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Not sure what is going wrong here.. LOL is that the real experiment?  Is it really a social experiment BCNext is playing on us?  LOL

Some people is simply uneasy waiting for developments. Even if we were guinea pigs, the best we can do is chill. I second your deep breath.

Once BTT stops 502ing thanks to the Maxcoin launch...
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February 05, 2014, 08:20:27 PM
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guys, lets all just take a step back for a second and take a deep breath.

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