TwinWinNerD
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April 05, 2014, 03:30:41 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. |
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Evil-Knievel
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April 05, 2014, 03:31:51 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship. That should've been found and weeded out last year.
But it is not "no password", it's more an "empty password" as so still a "password". |
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solarion
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April 05, 2014, 03:32:05 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? |
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msin
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April 05, 2014, 03:33:00 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? Because you entered a passcode that belongs to someone else. In this case, you didn't enter a password and the account # that was shown was associated with that account. When you open a Nxt wallet you have a passcode that generates your Account #. Why wouldn't you write down your Account # and verify before sending Nxt? |
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solarion
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April 05, 2014, 03:33:06 PM |
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Don't think I'm getting through to you guys. This system as it stands will not work for mass adoption. There are people far far dumber than me that will try this software.
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solarion
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April 05, 2014, 03:33:41 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? Because you entered a passcode that belongs to someone else. That will happen thousands of times over globally. Think man. There needs to be more safeguards than a simple password. |
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solarion
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April 05, 2014, 03:35:21 PM |
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happy to be on it if you're so blind that you cannot see the problem with this. If you ask 10k people to set up an account what number of them will use no password or their first name as a password? The silly software will then merrily send their coins to someone else.
Don't get emotionally involved with your coin choice.
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Daedelus
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April 05, 2014, 03:36:36 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? Because you entered a passcode that belongs to someone else. That will happen thousands of times over globally. Think man. There needs to be more safeguards than a simple password. Not if they follow the advice. |
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Evil-Knievel
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April 05, 2014, 03:36:54 PM |
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happy to be on it if you're so blind that you cannot see the problem with this.
Don't get emotionally involved with your coin choice.
The "problem" is also present in bitcoin. If you create a brainwallet with a weak "password" your coins will be gone as well. |
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msin
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April 05, 2014, 03:37:56 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? Because you entered a passcode that belongs to someone else. That will happen thousands of times over globally. Think man. There needs to be more safeguards than a simple password. For some reason you didn't record your account #. If you are sending money via Paypal to an email address, do you verify the email address before sending? When you are writing a check, do you verify the name of the person you are writing the check to before mailing it? I'm not sure why you didn't record your Account # and verify it before sending Nxt. |
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solarion
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April 05, 2014, 03:38:06 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? Because you entered a passcode that belongs to someone else. That will happen thousands of times over globally. Think man. There needs to be more safeguards than a simple password. Not if they follow the advice. People constantly ignore advice. Cholesterol is bad, but people still eat french fries. |
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solarion
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April 05, 2014, 03:39:13 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? Because you entered a passcode that belongs to someone else. That will happen thousands of times over globally. Think man. There needs to be more safeguards than a simple password. For some reason you didn't record your account #. If you are sending money via Paypal to an email address, do you verify the email address before sending? When you are writing a check, do you verify the name of the person you are writing the check to before mailing it? I'm not sure why you didn't record your Account # and verify it before sending Nxt. I DID VERIFY IT. Someone else's account number is *STILL* on my screen and it *STILL* matches the one cryptsy sent to. |
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solarion
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April 05, 2014, 03:40:36 PM |
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I give up. Cognitive dissonance is a powerful thing.
I wasn't happy with the premine scammy disbursement of this thing anyway, just wanted to give it a fair shake. I feel like I have given it that and been sorely disappointed.
Whoever got my coins, please enjoy them.
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Daedelus
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April 05, 2014, 03:41:07 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? Because you entered a passcode that belongs to someone else. That will happen thousands of times over globally. Think man. There needs to be more safeguards than a simple password. Not if they follow the advice. People constantly ignore advice. Cholesterol is bad, but people still eat french fries. And then live with the consequences. I.e your coins *will* be stolen. That's good advice |
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msin
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April 05, 2014, 03:41:19 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? Because you entered a passcode that belongs to someone else. That will happen thousands of times over globally. Think man. There needs to be more safeguards than a simple password. For some reason you didn't record your account #. If you are sending money via Paypal to an email address, do you verify the email address before sending? When you are writing a check, do you verify the name of the person you are writing the check to before mailing it? I'm not sure why you didn't record your Account # and verify it before sending Nxt. I DID VERIFY IT. Someone else's account number is *STILL* on my screen and it *STILL* matches the one cryptsy sent to. How much Nxt did you lose? |
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Eadeqa
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April 05, 2014, 03:41:51 PM |
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happy to be on it if you're so blind that you cannot see the problem with this.
Don't get emotionally involved with your coin choice.
I actually agree with you. The built-in client can be confusing for people used to bitcoin and the it's clones. People don't read the dialog box at the login. You probably just hit entered without entering any passphrase. That client (which was supposed to be temporary) lasted way too long. It's sceduled to be replaced with this one in near future http://nxtra.org/nxt-wallet/Try that one and it won't let you make that mistake easily, as it will create the pass phrase for you. |
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solarion
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April 05, 2014, 03:42:01 PM |
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1593 or 1592 less the nonsensical minimum transaction fee.
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Daedelus
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April 05, 2014, 03:42:43 PM |
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No password = no account number. How is that not simple in software?
If john smith for instance uses his name as his password(not smart) the chances that someone else has used that password increases exponentially with adoption, but the software won't warn the 37th john smith of that and will merrily send john smith(#1) all of the other john smith's coins. Correct?
This system sucks. If this basic stuff hasn't been worked out in april of 2014 then these programmers are knuckleheads and everyone should abandon ship.
Just follow the security advise on the site. It clearly says 30 digits password. Noone was able to lose his coins in a way like you. It is your fault for not double checking if you entered the right password.. Fine, I'm stupid. Can we move on now? WHY DOES THE SOFTWARE SHOW AN ACCOUNT NUMBER THAT BELONGS TO SOMEONE ELSE?!? Because you entered a passcode that belongs to someone else. That will happen thousands of times over globally. Think man. There needs to be more safeguards than a simple password. For some reason you didn't record your account #. If you are sending money via Paypal to an email address, do you verify the email address before sending? When you are writing a check, do you verify the name of the person you are writing the check to before mailing it? I'm not sure why you didn't record your Account # and verify it before sending Nxt. I DID VERIFY IT. Someone else's account number is *STILL* on my screen and it *STILL* matches the one cryptsy sent to. You either entered a 6 word pass or no password. Which is it? |
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msin
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April 05, 2014, 03:43:57 PM |
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1593 or 1592 less the nonsensical minimum transaction fee.
PM me your Nxt account # associated with YOUR password and I'll send you 1593 later, I think you should at least stick around so you can try Asset Exchange and some other really neat features being released soon. |
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Eadeqa
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April 05, 2014, 03:46:00 PM |
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I DID VERIFY IT. Someone else's account number is *STILL* on my screen and it *STILL* matches the one cryptsy sent to.
It's not someone's else account. It's an account for "null" password. If I hit enter without entering a pass phrase, I get the same account number 3791936988034107349 Nxt is a brain wallet. Private key = Sha256 (password) |
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