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It's not just confusing, it's total bullshit. Graviton made for the community more than most of us. If someone doesn't like fees, then remember how much money did you make on Dgex or outside it but because there was such thing as Dgex. If there was no Dgex and nextcoin.org we'd still have Nxt around 0.000001 Btc and one thread here on bitcointalk.
When one do not charge you to get in and later do not allow you to get out for free than it is called a scam. Very simple. On a funny note, check nxt:rawdog Peace! First of all he notified in advance about fees. He was going to add them after Dec 20. Second, any exchage can change fee based on current situation. Btc-e, MtGox, Dgex, whatever. If you don't like it, don't deal with them.
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January 08, 2014, 12:44:34 AM |
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We should also connect with the Dark Wallet team - investigate in parallel CoinJoin option!
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January 08, 2014, 12:46:18 AM |
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It's good to see some reasonable behavior in here for a change!
So how much money you wanna rip off this great community and altcoin? 800k NXT not enough, I guess. Fuck off, bastard!It's not just confusing, it's total bullshit. Graviton made for the community more than most of us. If someone doesn't like fees, then remember how much money did you make on Dgex or outside it but because there was such thing as Dgex. If there was no Dgex and nextcoin.org we'd still have Nxt around 0.000001 Btc and one thread here on bitcointalk.
When one do not charge you to get in and later do not allow you to get out for free than it is called a scam. Very simple. On a funny note, check nxt:rawdog Peace! First of all he notified in advance about fees. There was no info on DGEX website. I don't give a shit if he posted it elsewhere. I use his website and I expect info there.27.12.2013: Server migration over, smooth sailing! 16.12.2013: Fee structure change, instant BTC withdrawals available! 08.12.2013: Email server changed, problems should be gone 02.12.2013: NEXT Forum at Nextcoin.org launched! 28.11.2013: Launch of NXT trading. Welcome!
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BitcoinForumator
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January 08, 2014, 12:49:11 AM |
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nxt:rawdog?
Huh? what? where?
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klee
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January 08, 2014, 12:49:30 AM |
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nexern
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January 08, 2014, 12:57:44 AM |
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We should also connect with the Dark Wallet team - investigate in parallel CoinJoin option!
not easy, nxt infrastructure differs heavily from common codebase within crypto-country. has some short-timed disadvantages but later much more adventages, speed will increase. chiga, chiga, megalo karpusi isterotera.
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January 08, 2014, 01:00:43 AM |
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January 08, 2014, 01:01:00 AM |
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It's good to see some reasonable behavior in here for a change! Just for the record before I delete the unauthorized advertisement on nextcoin.org, such an obvious agenda for downplaying competition on their own yard - and trying to score the points home for that is, well, almost tragicomic; Disclaimer: I am not - in any way - affiliated with Ripple or Peercover. This guide is for informational purposes only. There are a number of reasons you may want to consider:
According to DGEX's website, NXT withdrawals are currently delayed from their normal schedule. NXT withdrawals are 0.9%. BTC withdrawals are 1.4% - 2.8% depending on your desired speed. Nxtchg, another NXT exchange, is handling trades manually. Peercover offers free, automated trading. Peercover deposits/withdrawals, in my experience, have executed within just a few hours (more info on this later in the guide). We need to create a market in the most advantageous environment! Now which one sounds better to you: trading in an environment with or without fees? Manually operated or automated? Calling all rational investors! These are factual statements. Are you trying to prevent freedom of speech? I think that does it for now... thanks nxtgt for visiting our DGEX sponsored forum and good luck for your business! Un.be.lievable
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January 08, 2014, 01:02:55 AM |
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Have you guys seen the price? Volume is good. Are we seeing big stakeholders unloading?
BTC isn't faring too well either.
RonPaulCoin mothafuckas! Price is still too high. It needs a real dump to let community a proper redistribution and slove problem of too big power of big stockholders... (also creating problem of theoretical voting monopoly). That opens way for real democratisation of NXT. Will go back reborn and stronger. RonPaulCoin rules bro This is a new mile stone after Dogemania. Shows that loyal community and faith in cryptocurrency can create real value. But i don't know if this horde trying to mine it now while earlier they dumped it for sure death will help of damage RPC. Too big hype can kill even best idea. NXTers should learn something from this lesson. Sometimes big amount is a big problem while limited amount creates hidden value just because it's rare. Oh and it has smart, loyal community which doesn't sell it for profit or panic sell when it go down... and they do it with common altcoin... not nxt generation coin... much to learn, much loyalty, much waiting, much profit, much happiness poor doges
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January 08, 2014, 01:06:03 AM |
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It's good to see some reasonable behavior in here for a change! Just for the record before I delete the unauthorized advertisement on nextcoin.org, such an obvious agenda for downplaying competition on their own yard - and trying to score the points home for that is, well, almost tragicomic; Disclaimer: I am not - in any way - affiliated with Ripple or Peercover. This guide is for informational purposes only. There are a number of reasons you may want to consider:
According to DGEX's website, NXT withdrawals are currently delayed from their normal schedule. NXT withdrawals are 0.9%. BTC withdrawals are 1.4% - 2.8% depending on your desired speed. Nxtchg, another NXT exchange, is handling trades manually. Peercover offers free, automated trading. Peercover deposits/withdrawals, in my experience, have executed within just a few hours (more info on this later in the guide). We need to create a market in the most advantageous environment! Now which one sounds better to you: trading in an environment with or without fees? Manually operated or automated? Calling all rational investors! These are factual statements. Are you trying to prevent freedom of speech? I think that does it for now... thanks nxtgt for visiting our DGEX sponsored forum and good luck for your business! Un.be.lievable Not going to say whether I think what Gravitron said is right or wrong, but when you walk into someone's house and talk shit on their children, they're not gonna sit back and take it. Your guide would've just as educational without the pot shots at DGEX.
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bitcoinrocks
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January 08, 2014, 01:07:45 AM |
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Does it have a chart or something. It is difficult to do comparison with just a number. You gotta keep the chart upstairs.
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January 08, 2014, 01:11:21 AM |
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It's not just confusing, it's total bullshit. Graviton made for the community more than most of us. If someone doesn't like fees, then remember how much money did you make on Dgex or outside it but because there was such thing as Dgex. If there was no Dgex and nextcoin.org we'd still have Nxt around 0.000001 Btc and one thread here on bitcointalk.
When one do not charge you to get in and later do not allow you to get out for free than it is called a scam. Very simple. Should I mention it takes as long as 2+ days to get NXT out, with a 0.9 PERCENT fee? On a funny note, check nxt:rawdog Peace! I think we need less DGEX hating round here. It can't have been exactly easy keeping DGEX (mostly) up and running over the last few weeks. May I remind u guys of the heady times of the alias rush and DDoS attacks 2 weeks ago? DGEX was the only game in town, and without it NXT wuld be a lot worse off now. I stll don't like the withdrawal fee, but 0.17% trade fee isn't exactly theft. Anyone wanna tell me what Cryptsy charges for trades? At the end of it all, DGEX is a business. Graviton and company will have had to throw a lot of real money at it, they will need to see some back, otherwise no more DGEX. Which won't help NXT one bit.
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January 08, 2014, 01:17:11 AM |
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Have you guys seen the price? Volume is good. Are we seeing big stakeholders unloading?
BTC isn't faring too well either.
RonPaulCoin mothafuckas! Price is still too high. It needs a real dump to let community a proper redistribution and slove problem of too big power of big stockholders... (also creating problem of theoretical voting monopoly). That opens way for real democratisation of NXT. Will go back reborn and stronger. RonPaulCoin rules bro This is a new mile stone after Dogemania. Shows that loyal community and faith in cryptocurrency can create real value. But i don't know if this horde trying to mine it now while earlier they dumped it for sure death will help of damage RPC. Too big hype can kill even best idea. NXTers should learn something from this lesson. Sometimes big amount is a big problem while limited amount creates hidden value just because it's rare. Oh and it has smart, loyal community which doesn't sell it for profit or panic sell when it go down... and they do it with common altcoin... not nxt generation coin... much to learn, much loyalty, much waiting, much profit, much happiness poor doges big stakeholders are only getting stronger - they are buying now
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January 08, 2014, 01:19:54 AM |
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It's not just confusing, it's total bullshit. Graviton made for the community more than most of us. If someone doesn't like fees, then remember how much money did you make on Dgex or outside it but because there was such thing as Dgex. If there was no Dgex and nextcoin.org we'd still have Nxt around 0.000001 Btc and one thread here on bitcointalk.
When one do not charge you to get in and later do not allow you to get out for free than it is called a scam. Very simple. Should I mention it takes as long as 2+ days to get NXT out, with a 0.9 PERCENT fee? On a funny note, check nxt:rawdog Peace! I think we need less DGEX hating round here. It can't have been exactly easy keeping DGEX (mostly) up and running over the last few weeks. May I remind u guys of the heady times of the alias rush and DDoS attacks 2 weeks ago? DGEX was the only game in town, and without it NXT wuld be a lot worse off now. I stll don't like the withdrawal fee, but 0.17% trade fee isn't exactly theft. Anyone wanna tell me what Cryptsy charges for trades? At the end of it all, DGEX is a business. Graviton and company will have had to throw a lot of real money at it, they will need to see some back, otherwise no more DGEX. Which won't help NXT one bit. The problem is not about the fees, he can start the business and charge 5% fee if he wants. BTW 0.17% trading fee is ok. The problem is that he created a honeypot not charging fees (only to BTC withdrawals) and after he got all the money inside he changed withdrawal NXT fee from 0% to 1.4% without giving time to cashout... And it was even worse, because he did in the launch date, without previous news. That is theft 100%.
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January 08, 2014, 01:23:05 AM Last edit: January 08, 2014, 01:56:50 AM by subSTRATA |
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It's not just confusing, it's total bullshit. Graviton made for the community more than most of us. If someone doesn't like fees, then remember how much money did you make on Dgex or outside it but because there was such thing as Dgex. If there was no Dgex and nextcoin.org we'd still have Nxt around 0.000001 Btc and one thread here on bitcointalk.
When one do not charge you to get in and later do not allow you to get out for free than it is called a scam. Very simple. Should I mention it takes as long as 2+ days to get NXT out, with a 0.9 PERCENT fee? On a funny note, check nxt:rawdog Peace! I think we need less DGEX hating round here. It can't have been exactly easy keeping DGEX (mostly) up and running over the last few weeks. May I remind u guys of the heady times of the alias rush and DDoS attacks 2 weeks ago? DGEX was the only game in town, and without it NXT wuld be a lot worse off now. I stll don't like the withdrawal fee, but 0.17% trade fee isn't exactly theft. Anyone wanna tell me what Cryptsy charges for trades? At the end of it all, DGEX is a business. Graviton and company will have had to throw a lot of real money at it, they will need to see some back, otherwise no more DGEX. Which won't help NXT one bit. If dozen of exchanges doing business with almost the same cryptocoins can survive on trade fees and withdrawal fees that are slightly higher than using Bitcoin-Qt or other local wallets than DGEX, who is having a monopoly over NXT trades, can survive as well. There was a loss of what, 800k NXT? Who is to blame? DGEX. So, they fucked up but decided to bail out themselves with our money. So fucking real world, isn't it? And now, when 800k+ NXT are surely made, ridiculous withdrawal fees are still there. Basically, guy wanna rip us all off if we want to withdraw our coins and move elsewhere. The problem is not about the fees, he can start the business and charge 5% fee if he wants. BTW 0.17% trading fee is ok.
The problem is that he created a honeypot not charging fees (only to BTC withdrawals) and after he got all the money inside he changed withdrawal NXT fee from 0% to 1.4% without giving time to cashout... And it was even worse, because he did in the launch date, without previous news. That is theft 100%.
Exactly. To charge 1.4% for BTC withdrawal is insane, if I deposited 10,000 BTC and then withdrew them I'd end up with 140 BTC less. Or 280 BTC less if I used "instant" withdrawal. Stupid fuck running DGEX are you out of your mind? You should know your head can go down for much less than 140 BTC there in Panama. Stop playing with people in cryptocommunity, you have no idea who you are dealing with, retard! Someone might go mad much more than I and actualy pay to have you dead, are you aware of that??? I and others are supposed to invest in altcoin whos future is totally dependant on unthinking greedy stupid fuck. Deal of the year!
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skytaper
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January 08, 2014, 01:23:20 AM |
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NXT withdrawals were completely free of charge one month ago...
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salsacz
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January 08, 2014, 01:29:13 AM |
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dgex just sent us Nxt withdrawers: 1.8 Million Nxt
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January 08, 2014, 01:31:25 AM |
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big stakeholders are only getting stronger - they are buying now they are buying what they can't dump in the first place? riiiiiight :rolleyes:
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January 08, 2014, 01:40:56 AM |
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RON PAUL COIN !!!!
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