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January 11, 2014, 08:37:22 PM
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There's a piece i'm missing in NXT. With many of the other coins, you see shops and services popping up that take some particular altcoin as a payment, but not with NXT - why not? Only one shop so far.

Two. Only tees for now, but by next week there will be the Blockchain jewelery for your ladies ears, fingers or neck!
http://flakes.bigcartel.com/
On PM basis for now on NXT but them devs are fast !

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January 11, 2014, 08:51:58 PM
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NXTarea.com went public!


My new site NXTarea.com is now open for everyone! Smiley

We have an online wallet and a big link list. I redirected CoinArea.net to the new site as well. The faucet was dry for several days already and nobody is willing to donate. That's why the faucet goes offline and won't come back. Use wesley's one. Wink

Currently I am developing a few small games and a place to promote NXT businesses. Let me know if you have nice ideas. Smiley

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January 11, 2014, 09:00:21 PM
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FOUND MY LOST PASSWORD!!!!

I had an account with 1M NXT in it that I had thought that I had lost forever.  The password that I had saved in NOTEPAD did not seem to unlock the account after I had created it (and coins had been sent to it).  Turns out that my cut-n-paste from NOTEPAD was adding two end of line characters to the middle of the password when I setup the account!

I have NOTEPAD -> FORMAT -> Work Wrap on.  It appears that sometime when copying from Notepad, COPY-N-PASTE is adding 2 E-O-L characters in the middle of the string where the next breaks in the display, even though the characters are not there in the notepad file.

For proof of what I am saying, I will post the account, Saved off Password and NXT Password in a few hours after my transfer (out of that account) ages a bit.


Note, this is not a problem with NXT.....It is a problem with using NOTEPAD to store passwords.
My Proof....BTW, the only deposit to the account was from the genesis block.


NOTEPAD CONTAINED THESE LINES:  (The password line is one line and is wrapped to next line because of length.  If it shows as 2 lines here, it is one line in Notepad)
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Account:7577840883495855927
Account Password:98yr38hD*J#)r039jr(JD(#)dju#)Ar9j34j9a)d9j)(J)Jr3)(J(r9fpoj3pojpj90j99uu(U90UUjOpj45390f99f94j4p4546sdr


But, the passphrase got no coins....(Not account 7577840883495855927)


The problem was that COPY-N-PASTE had added two line control characters from where the Word Wrap was splitting to the next line in the display.  {This is intermittent; does not always happen.}

NXT Account = Copy all three lines to passphrase....First line has an ENTER and the second line is just an ENTER.
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98yr38hD*J#)r039jr(JD(#)dju#)Ar9j34j9a)d9j)

(J)Jr3)(J(r9fpoj3pojpj90j99uu(U90UUjOpj45390f99f94j4p4546sdr



HOW I DISCOVERED THIS: I tried to log into my different account this morning and it logged to different account.  I pasted the buffer into a new Notepad and noticed line controls had been added to middle of passphrase. I closed notepad (that contains my passphrase) and tried again.  It worked fine the second time.  That is when I reasoned that CUT-N-PASTE must have added the E-O-L characters.

HOW DID I GET BACK TO ACCOUNT NUMBER:  Basically put two ENTER before the last character in passphrase; and log into NRS.  If not passphrase, put two enters before the last 2 characters.  Then before last three.  Eventually, I recovered the passphrase.  Note, where the E-O-L characters were added depends on the dimensions of the window when you copied it from Notepad.


My motivation in bringing this to the community is that there are postings where people are positive of their passphrase, but it opens a different account now.  This could be a similar issue and the coins could be recoverable.


Again, this is a personal issue with storing passphrases.  It is not a NXT defect (except that control characters appear to be allowed in passphrases).


EDIT: Apparently others have noticed this bug as well. Do a search and you can find it.  Example, http://bavih.blogspot.com/2008/07/notepad-bug.html

Congrat man, 1 million NXt is a lot of money now. You could have sold some if you have had that much NXT earlier.

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January 11, 2014, 09:01:17 PM
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There's a piece i'm missing in NXT. With many of the other coins, you see shops and services popping up that take some particular altcoin as a payment, but not with NXT - why not? Only one shop so far.

Two. Only tees for now, but by next week there will be the Blockchain jewelery for your ladies ears, fingers or neck!
http://flakes.bigcartel.com/
On PM basis for now on NXT but them devs are fast !

Why don't you make some NXT custom tees and sell us NXT-ers ?

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January 11, 2014, 09:02:00 PM
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With this info in the Whitepaper, are there any other points that need to be covered?

More info will be published later.
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January 11, 2014, 09:04:22 PM
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NXTarea.com went public!


My new site NXTarea.com is now open for everyone! Smiley

We have an online wallet and a big link list. I redirected CoinArea.net to the new site as well. The faucet was dry for several days already and nobody is willing to donate. That's why the faucet goes offline and won't come back. Use wesley's one. Wink

Currently I am developing a few small games and a place to promote NXT businesses. Let me know if you have nice ideas. Smiley

Love the site. Look clean and modern. Do you have a plan to monetize it ? You could have a chunk coming from affiliate links in the future.

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January 11, 2014, 09:06:35 PM
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With this info in the Whitepaper, are there any other points that need to be covered?

More info will be published later.

Understood. How exactly each node predicts ahead more than a block at 98%, 97%... accuracy was something I couldn't quite see how to do. Maybe hallmarked nodes cooperate with each other and provide this information to all the non-hallmarked nodes?

So, do you approve of whitepaper content (other than missing info)? Do we just have to tweak it and make it all proper English, etc?

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January 11, 2014, 09:13:43 PM
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How exactly each node predicts ahead more than a block at 98%, 97%... accuracy was something I couldn't quite see how to do. Maybe hallmarked nodes cooperate with each other and provide this information to all the non-hallmarked nodes?

No. I'll add API calls for prediction soon.


So, do you approve of whitepaper content (other than missing info)? Do we just have to tweak it and make it all proper English, etc?

Community should approve.
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January 11, 2014, 09:23:56 PM
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Hey, what do you think about this...

NXT –  created by an unknown rebel,describeveloped by free people!

Do you like the world? Do you like the governments? The system? No? You are not alone! Nobody likes to be lied, nobody likes to be restricted, nobody likes to face a wall every time he starts a business, to be forced to break the law, to be pushed around, to be humiliated… But there’s going to be a change! BTC showed the way, it injected a virus in the system. Now NXT will do the rest. An unknown genius rebel, who watched the development of the “virus”, created his masterpiece, setting the beginning of the revolution! Nothing will stop the process, because nothing can stop it! It is irreversible! NXT creates an enviroment with countless opportunities, an environment in which we will build our empire of freedom!


I can totally see the words "genius" & "masterpiece" being used to describe satoshi but lets wait for some solid proof & evidence first before we use those words to describe BCnext.

Right now we have lots of hype n "sizzle" but I dont see any solid "steak" yet to show for the Nxt hype yet.

No hard feelings BCnext...

Right now, from an early adopter & Nxt investor perspective, all I see is another copy cat programmer attempting to copy satoshi's shroud of anonymity, idea of a public ledger,  etc.

Being "original" is genius.
Being "different" is NOT genius.

Keep in mind that satoshi created btc to take power away from the 1% on wall street  n give it back to the 99% on Main Street while BCnext created nxt for personal financial gains.

keep in mind that there is nothing wrong with doing some thing for personal financial gains but I would hesitate to compare or place an unproven coder on the genius level of satoshi.

I invested in nxt because it was the first copy cat coin to make an attempt to come up with its own source code instead of being lazy n copying satoshi's code.

Is it possible that BCnext is another genius like satoshi?  Of course its possible...

I hope BCnext is able to produce the code that he claims n provide proof of his genius. ..

Until there is proof... BCnext is just another wanna be copy cat...

once proof is clearly available. .. I will be the first to promote the genius of BCnext's.


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January 11, 2014, 09:27:52 PM
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NXTarea.com went public!
My new site NXTarea.com is now open for everyone! Smiley

Love the site!
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January 11, 2014, 09:30:32 PM
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Asian Prepper,

Have you tried to find bugs in the released source code?
Have you ever seen so much functionality packed into such few lines of code?

From your statements it is likely that you are not a programmer. I am a pretty experienced programmer and I can usually find bugs in other people's code pretty quickly. However, only ricot seems to have been able to find any sort of problem with the current source code. I am ignoring style issues, lack of software engineering rigor, etc. This is after all a beta test.

Also, my understanding is that BCNext has spent more money than he has made with NXT. He created something totally new (Transparent Forging), tossed in all other altcoin features, made it run on cellphones and you doubt his genius??

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January 11, 2014, 09:34:07 PM
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NXTarea.com went public!
My new site NXTarea.com is now open for everyone! Smiley

Love the site!

Nice site, congrats!

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January 11, 2014, 09:35:20 PM
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Stable release 0.5.5:

http://download.nxtcrypto.org/nxt-client-0.5.5.zip

sha256: aa20fb32fe7e6cda7debee59928d5aea8ff7c581c58a56ff68e8252eaf9368c7
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-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


btw...

gpg: Signature made Sat Jan 11 19:19:06 2014 CET using RSA key ID 3BF9ED80
gpg: Good signature from "Jean-Luc Picard (Lead Developer of The Nxt Generation) <jlp666@yandex.ru>"

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January 11, 2014, 09:41:10 PM
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acc 12344:
http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=12344

btw one czech guy registered some accounts and he is registering aliases there only with 2-3 Nxt from faucets.. it would be much faster if he created one acc and buy there 100 nxts Smiley

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January 11, 2014, 09:41:31 PM
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rickyjames,

I've got most of the whitepaper content thrown together, but it is still very rough and not really reading like a whitepaper to me.

It needs somebody elses touch and I like how you write. Could you take a stab at editing it so it reads like a whitepaper? I have some more content for NXT yields section 11, but the rest is ready for some new eyes

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January 11, 2014, 09:42:38 PM
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gpg: Good signature from "Jean-Luc Picard"


NXT server on your Raspberry Pi (deprecated) | NXT nodes update script (really deprecated)
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January 11, 2014, 09:50:07 PM
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NXTarea.com went public!


My new site NXTarea.com is now open for everyone! Smiley

We have an online wallet and a big link list. I redirected CoinArea.net to the new site as well. The faucet was dry for several days already and nobody is willing to donate. That's why the faucet goes offline and won't come back. Use wesley's one. Wink

Currently I am developing a few small games and a place to promote NXT businesses. Let me know if you have nice ideas. Smiley
Love the site. Look clean and modern. Do you have a plan to monetize it ? You could have a chunk coming from affiliate links in the future.

Yes, in the future. When the asset exchange will come online I will distribute 10% of the site to the public. At that point there won't be any income. The income will come later.

In the future there will be many games and other services. I won't monetize the link list, because that is a gift to the community. But there will be another link list for companies (monetized). Wink


NXTarea.com went public!
My new site NXTarea.com is now open for everyone! Smiley
Love the site!
Nice site, congrats!

Thank you both! Smiley

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January 11, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
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symbol is finally changed on coinmarket!

http://coinmarketcap.com/

thx bitcoinpaul I think

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From a sales/marketing perspective... I think that calling Nextcoin by "Nxt" instead of "Nextcoin" is a huge mistake.

Nothing kills adoption faster then "confusion".  Calling something "Nxt" is confusing as hell.  I know u commented on my video once n asked me to use the term Nxt instead of Nextcoin n it took several weeks before I realized what you were even talking about.

I think we should have stuck with the term "Nextcoin".

Instead of relying on fancy names to promote Nextcoin, we should be focused on making solid features on Nxt and make it as user friendly and easy to understand as possible.

This is one area that is still lacking in the crypto market despite the fact that we have dozens of different currencies.

people who are already in the crypto currency market can figure out and understand what "Nxt" is… But people new to the crypto currency market will have no clue (unless they do extensive research) to even know that Nxt is a crypto currency.

Confusion is not good for public adoption...

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symbol is finally changed on coinmarket!

http://coinmarketcap.com/

thx bitcoinpaul I think

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From a sales/marketing perspective... I think that calling Nextcoin by "Nxt" instead of "Nextcoin" is a huge mistake.

Nothing kills adoption faster then "confusion".  Calling something "Nxt" is confusing as hell.  I know u commented on my video once n asked me to use the term Nxt instead of Nextcoin n it took several weeks before I realized what you were even talking about.

I think we should have stuck with the term "Nextcoin".

Instead of relying on fancy names to promote Nextcoin, we should be focused on making solid features on Nxt and make it as user friendly and easy to understand as possible.

This is one area that is still lacking in the crypto market despite the fact that we have dozens of different currencies.

people who are already in the crypto currency market can figure out and understand what "Nxt" is… But people new to the crypto currency market will have no clue (unless they do extensive research) to even know that Nxt is a crypto currency.

Confusion is not good for public adoption...

Nextcoin would be just as confusing, because Nxt isn't a coin, or rather not just a coin. The "coin" is part of the larger system.

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symbol is finally changed on coinmarket!

http://coinmarketcap.com/

thx bitcoinpaul I think

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From a sales/marketing perspective... I think that calling Nextcoin by "Nxt" instead of "Nextcoin" is a huge mistake.

Nothing kills adoption faster then "confusion".  Calling something "Nxt" is confusing as hell.  I know u commented on my video once n asked me to use the term Nxt instead of Nextcoin n it took several weeks before I realized what you were even talking about.

I think we should have stuck with the term "Nextcoin".

Instead of relying on fancy names to promote Nextcoin, we should be focused on making solid features on Nxt and make it as user friendly and easy to understand as possible.

This is one area that is still lacking in the crypto market despite the fact that we have dozens of different currencies.

people who are already in the crypto currency market can figure out and understand what "Nxt" is… But people new to the crypto currency market will have no clue (unless they do extensive research) to even know that Nxt is a crypto currency.

Confusion is not good for public adoption...

I agree that confusion is best avoided.

NXT enables an entire digital economy and also creates ways for people to earn an income. It is much more than a coin. 4 of the top 10 (by marketcap) cryptos have no mention of "coin", so it does not seem to be such a critical issue of mass confusion.

I think if each NXT feature was marketed on its own merits, then the confusion will be minimized. No need to explain to somebody that is interested in Arbitrary Messages, all the details of Asset Exchange. Just need one hook to get somebody interested in NXT. Then there is the excellent wiki where they can find out all they need (or want) to know about NXT.

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