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February 11, 2014, 02:36:21 PM
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please send some additional test-nxt to: 9998590259914237067
(need to test bigger numbers, to built up the trade and volume history for LuckyMiner asset)
100000 testNXT sent.
10M NXT sent
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February 11, 2014, 02:37:04 PM
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is utipianfuture still in charge for the issuance of assets? I know an austrian company who would like to issue assets for one of their upcoming products that needs fundraising for further developments and would like to help them using nxt ae.

Who is in charge of the AE? Do we know how it will function once it is on the live network? Will I be able to issue an asset myself? How can I let the community know bout it? Where can I upload the business plan? How can the investors make sure that I am not trying to scam them?

You can use description field when you Issue Asset to include short intro and link to the plans!
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February 11, 2014, 02:37:34 PM
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Is the problem of the blockchain which was mentioned here the reason why I have 2 aliases with the same name? This shouldn't be possible as far as I know.

I really would be extremly cool if any of the more experienced NXT users can explain me this because I seriously considering buying me in into NXT and want to know everything I can first.

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February 11, 2014, 02:38:39 PM
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It's not a bug. It's a reassignment.

Perhaps if the alias is found to exist and not have been changed (in terms of the "data" part) then it shouldn't be broadcast as a tx at all?

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February 11, 2014, 02:39:18 PM
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hello,
   which client should I use to test asset-exchange features?
I saw dotNxt/solaris at the first page, but it seems that neither of the two support AE now.

try clienxt : https://bitbucket.org/fmiboy/clienxt/downloads/clienxt_005.zip

ps: update is on the way, it will fix lag that most probably cause by peers and blocks update from ordinary version. for testnet we don't need them, so I comment that part which should fix lagging. added "update table" context menu to refresh Assets table.
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February 11, 2014, 02:39:50 PM
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is utipianfuture still in charge for the issuance of assets? I know an austrian company who would like to issue assets for one of their upcoming products that needs fundraising for further developments and would like to help them using nxt ae.

Who is in charge of the AE? Do we know how it will function once it is on the live network? Will I be able to issue an asset myself? How can I let the community know bout it? Where can I upload the business plan? How can the investors make sure that I am not trying to scam them?

You can use description field when you Issue Asset to include short intro and link to the plans!

So there will be no central organisation that will validate the asset issuance like utopianfuture was planning it?
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February 11, 2014, 02:40:53 PM
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please send some additional test-nxt to: 9998590259914237067
(need to test bigger numbers, to built up the trade and volume history for LuckyMiner asset)
100000 testNXT sent.
10M NXT sent

can I also get some more testNXT?
17102884928221738157

thanks!
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February 11, 2014, 02:45:21 PM
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I have 2 aliases with the same name

Not possible. Provide your account number please.

What is possible is to reassign an alias. say I bought the alias "google", but I assigned a wrong URI to it. Then I would assign the alias again (with 1NXT fee) and change the URI. Only the owner of an alias can reassign it.

Another possibility that could have happened to you is that you set the deadline too short. Say you set the deadline to 1 minute, and the next block gets created after 2 minutes, then your alias assignement gets cancelled because it was not included in a block before hitting deadline.
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February 11, 2014, 02:49:38 PM
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It's not a bug. It's a reassignment.

Perhaps if the alias is found to exist and not have been changed (in terms of the "data" part) then it shouldn't be broadcast as a tx at all?


This would lead to a problem...

Alice sends transactions:
Google = XXX
Google = YYY
Google = XXX

Forgers see:
Google = XXX
Google = XXX
Google = YYY

Blockchain contains:
Google = XXX
Google = YYY

Alice sees in the blockchain:
Google = XXX
Google = YYY

Now Alice would like to set Google to ZZZ but she can't coz she not sure if it's not reassigned to XXX after a while.
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February 11, 2014, 02:49:51 PM
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Is it possible to issue fees for the AE? For example if Person A wants to buy 500 Assets and Person A pays 500 NXT for them, will it be possible for me as the asset owner to issue a fee of 5 NXT for this transaction?

Could anyone translate this in Russian?

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Moжнo ли нaзнaчaть cбopы в AE? Haпpимep, ecли A xoчeт кyпить 500 aкций, и A плaтит 500 NXT зa ниx, мoгy ли я, кaк "xoзяин" aкций, нaзнaчить cбop в 5 NXT зa этy cдeлкy?
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February 11, 2014, 02:51:09 PM
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Can I get some NXT, please?

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February 11, 2014, 02:52:01 PM
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is utipianfuture still in charge for the issuance of assets? I know an austrian company who would like to issue assets for one of their upcoming products that needs fundraising for further developments and would like to help them using nxt ae.

Who is in charge of the AE? Do we know how it will function once it is on the live network? Will I be able to issue an asset myself? How can I let the community know bout it? Where can I upload the business plan? How can the investors make sure that I am not trying to scam them?

You can use description field when you Issue Asset to include short intro and link to the plans!

So there will be no central organisation that will validate the asset issuance like utopianfuture was planning it?

That's too bad, we really need something like this. Also, cross chain transactions or whatever it's called needs to be implemented as soon as possible.
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February 11, 2014, 02:52:35 PM
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UPDATE: ClieNXT GUI

version 0.0.5 [code name] AE testnet

* this version solely works with testnet server http://holms.cloudapp.net:6874/
* Asset Exchange window has major features

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https://bitbucket.org/fmiboy/clienxt/downloads/clienxt_005.zip


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Usage
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* Windows users unzip the archive and run Clienxt.jar file
* Linux users unzip the archive and run in terminal ./clienxt.run &
* Mac users unzip the archive and run in terminal ./clienxt.run & (not tested, working on creating *.app file or *.pkg installer)

* Languages English, Russian only Asset Exchange window translations are missing.

NB: don't use your own accounts on "testnet"

click Unlock button to open new or existing accounts on "testnet" (unlock and watch if you have more accounts)
go to Asset Exchange window and start Trading

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All available Assets


Issue Asset (fill all fields and Issue Asset, min. fee 1000)


Transfer Asset (select account that is added in Unlock window, it will detect all available Assets with their amount, fill rest fields and Transfer Asset)


My orders (all Ask and Bid orders for selected account)


Context menu (select any Asset and right click)


View Open orders (for selected Asset)


Place Order (ask or bid order for selected Asset, enter price 100 that will be considered 1, minimum price is 100)


Cancel Order (in My orders, you can select your order and right click to cancel order)


Cancel order window (requires only secret Phrase of account that placed same order)


Trade history (history of all trades for selected Asset)



Please report bugs or feature request here: https://bitbucket.org/fmiboy/clienxt/issues?status=new&status=open
Once client is tested, we can use it tomorrow without an issue!
Translators are very much welcome! The more languages we have the more people test Asset Exchange tomorrow.

Translators can find word list in Bundle.Properties (everything right side of "=" needs translation) here: https://bitbucket.org/fmiboy/clienxt/src/0a35a05b7786b2c3cf1e69ca16c0bbd48d8f953c/src/clienxt/Bundle.properties?at=master

If you like my work, donate nxt 13792774143018875909 and thank you very much for all supports.

About messages,  I try to send message with 0 NXT fee or 1 NXT fee. But I can't send them. (No response when clicking send.)

When attaching a message to a transfer, I got such info:
[2014-02-11 15:50:17.866]Sent NXT :{"bytes":"0000684e6800a0057c407d3d74f8627325e19c52b1225b9fd0a64cd398a4a01ec3dfec822c44b32 82cc875ffe41e30a9102700000100000000000000000000002d55d01706f5a033bf3492a77a84ca 858a16cad0096290036092659aaae87702346ca361f19cdf6f4f465975521102627b515c02c2779 6d3009bde70ef0bdf3a","transaction":"5483911402105252468"}
[2014-02-11 15:50:17.903]Sent Msg :{"errorCode":4,"errorDescription":"Incorrect \"message\""}
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February 11, 2014, 02:54:01 PM
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Is it possible to issue fees for the AE? For example if Person A wants to buy 500 Assets and Person A pays 500 NXT for them, will it be possible for me as the asset owner to issue a fee of 5 NXT for this transaction?

Could anyone translate this in Russian?

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Moжнo ли нaзнaчaть cбopы в AE? Haпpимep, ecли A xoчeт кyпить 500 aкций, и A плaтит 500 NXT зa ниx, мoгy ли я, кaк "xoзяин" aкций, нaзнaчить cбop в 5 NXT зa этy cдeлкy?

Hm... I still can't get the idea. I should take a break from coding I think...
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February 11, 2014, 02:54:17 PM
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Is it possible to issue fees for the AE? For example if Person A wants to buy 500 Assets and Person A pays 500 NXT for them, will it be possible for me as the asset owner to issue a fee of 5 NXT for this transaction?

Could anyone translate this in Russian?

It appears that he, as person-A the asset issuer, wants the ability to charge person-B for the privilege of buying any qty of the asset, even when person-A buys from an external party, person-C, simply because person-A is the asset issuer.

I cant think why that would be needed.


It's not a bug. It's a reassignment.

Perhaps if the alias is found to exist and not have been changed (in terms of the "data" part) then it shouldn't be broadcast as a tx at all?


yes, in the very least, clients should implement this
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February 11, 2014, 02:54:42 PM
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This would lead to a problem...

Aha - so maybe some "client only" stuff could perhaps help the person who ended up accidentally doing what he did (not NRS itself - of course that doesn't help him at the moment if he was actually using the NRS client).

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February 11, 2014, 02:57:39 PM
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is utipianfuture still in charge for the issuance of assets? I know an austrian company who would like to issue assets for one of their upcoming products that needs fundraising for further developments and would like to help them using nxt ae.

Who is in charge of the AE? Do we know how it will function once it is on the live network? Will I be able to issue an asset myself? How can I let the community know bout it? Where can I upload the business plan? How can the investors make sure that I am not trying to scam them?

You can use description field when you Issue Asset to include short intro and link to the plans!

So there will be no central organisation that will validate the asset issuance like utopianfuture was planning it?

That's too bad, we really need something like this. Also, cross chain transactions or whatever it's called needs to be implemented as soon as possible.

AM I right if I say, that we have abolsutely no idea how the asses issuance will work, just a few weeks prior the go live of the asses exchange functionality? You can´t be serious.
The question is very simple:

How will I be able to fund my project using Nxt AE? What is the process?

CfB: Will everyone with at least 1000 Nxt be able to release an asset or will there be a manual validation prior to the issuasnce of the asset?
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February 11, 2014, 02:58:18 PM
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Cancel order in testnet does not seem to work for me. Bid placed using ClieNXT, tried to cancel with API:

Code:
https://holms.cloudapp.net:6875/nxt?requestType=cancelBidOrder&secretPhrase=[SECRETPHRASE]&order=14239583640911742797&fee=1&deadline=1
{"transaction":"8601055425027365025"}

Transaction keeps appearing as unknown:

Code:
https://holms.cloudapp.net:6875/nxt?requestType=getTransaction&transaction=8601055425027365025
{"errorCode":5,"errorDescription":"Unknown transaction"}

Bid still in order table:

Code:
https://holms.cloudapp.net:6875/nxt?requestType=getBidOrderIds&asset=11862239544331900808&timestamp=1
{"bidOrderIds":["13707244546342930361","14239583640911742797"]}

Does testnet take this long in confirmations?
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February 11, 2014, 02:58:47 PM
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U guys should understand that all transactions should be included into the blockchain. It's the only way to share the same vision of the reality.
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February 11, 2014, 02:59:16 PM
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How will I be able to fund my project using Nxt AE? What is the process?

CfB: Will everyone with at least 1000 Nxt be able to release an asset or will there be a manual validation prior to the issuasnce of the asset?

Anyone can issue an asset....the difficult part is getting people to buy the asset you issue.

If their business plan is sound then maybe investors will buy the shares.



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