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March 07, 2014, 02:22:38 PM
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Newsweek with egg on it's face

http://instagram.com/p/lOkjZbwXb5

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March 07, 2014, 02:26:56 PM
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Why are ripple stamps worth something?

Basically because they decided to "pay themselves" with them in their "launch" (giving their employees an incentive to try and get people to "speculate" on them).


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Ripple™: It’s highly misleading and not what you think it is. Ripple is a centralized payment system that allows the transfer of artificially printed tokens that claims to be money, like “USD” or “BTC”. OpenCoin Inc goes to great lengths to camouflage the fact that they have total control over the Ripple network, and calls themselves a distributed payment network.

Could someone frame Nxt into the Ripple Scam stuff?

I try:
Nxt can be a decentralized Ripple.
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March 07, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
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Someone else noticed?  Grin



You are nominated for committee? Or is 48 a magic number?
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The thing that has surprised me most, the biggest insight of all, is how few people care about the technical side of Bitcoin.  Over 95% of the people there view Bitcoin as a social/political phenomenon and wouldn't care if it were powered under the hood by three witches cackling around cauldron of witches' brew.  Talking about the advantages of transparent forging over competitive mining or PoW vs. PoS or trusted gateways or pretty much anything we discuss in this forum is totally irrelevant to them and actually to the future of NXT.

If that's the case (I'm also very surprised by this), I wonder why is there so much interest in Ethereum then? Their goals are similar to NXT, the (technology) path is just different..

This is why Doge is so popular and is even surpassing Bitcoin in many ways.  Doge meets a social need to feel connected to something warm and fuzzy that Bitcoin does not.

You don't really need to impress Doge's crowd of people - miners interested in memes and pump and dumps, you want to impress people that can actually use the (yet to be implemented) features of Nxt.
Once you have people that can take advantage of the technology and use it for their projects it will naturally attract others. We're just not at this stage yet.

Great work though, the more people now about Nxt the better for its growth.
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March 07, 2014, 02:40:23 PM
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If that's the case (I'm also very surprised by this), I wonder why is there so much interest in Ethereum then? Their goals are similar to NXT, the (technology) path is just different..

Maybe it's because of the story of a teenager with pimples who challenges the financial world with some Turing Slipslop. That story is interesting.
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March 07, 2014, 02:42:55 PM
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2nd video from the 2014 Texas Bitcoin Conference:

http://prisonorfreedom.com/how-to-get-free-nextcoins-nxt-2014-texas-bitcoin-conference/

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Tai Zen

Thanks Tai,

Both videos published on wiki also:

http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/External_Videos#What_is_NXT_.28Nextcoin.29.3F_-_By_Tai_Zen_.282014_Texas_Bitcoin_Conference.29.2C_Published_on_Mar_6.2C_2014

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March 07, 2014, 02:44:30 PM
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We will only get the attention of the mass community of Bitcoiners if we come up with a marketing theme / campaign that engages people to adopt NXT.  The will not adopt NXT because it is better or technically superior.  They will only adopt NXT if it meets a need of theirs that Bitcoin does not already currently meet.


We could focus on the decentralized asset exchange. It is something for selfish, technical interested or financial people.
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March 07, 2014, 02:44:33 PM
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Well, I am back from Texas Bitcoin Conference and it was an extremely interesting experience.

Marketing NXT at TBC was a frustrating experience.   Wed night late I went around and put the NXT brochure out on literally 1600 chairs in preparation for the next day.  At noon on Thurs I went around and picked up the unused ones.  We probably only had 100 or so that were kept.  Of course the conference only had around 600 people, far less than expected.  I have made arrangements to ship the rest out to NxtMinnow for San Francisco.  

The exhibitor area was kind of a joke.   Very few tables, very few people went through it.  I was wrong to push for a separate NXT table earlier, it would have been a waste.    

I was on the cryptocoin panel discussion which I think went very well.  The video will be out in a few days and I'll post a link.  There were maybe 30 guys in the audience and on a show of hands probably only 5 had even heard of NXT.

I made a lot of good contacts, including a writer for Bitcoin Magazine with whom I had a very long talk about NXT.  He is going to write an article on us.  This is probably the number one positive thing for NXT that has come out of the conference.

The interest in Etherium in the Bitcoin community is extremely strong.  This is a trend to watch.

The thing that has surprised me most, the biggest insight of all, is how few people care about the technical side of Bitcoin.  Over 95% of the people there view Bitcoin as a social/political phenomenon and wouldn't care if it were powered under the hood by three witches cackling around cauldron of witches' brew.  Talking about the advantages of transparent forging over competitive mining or PoW vs. PoS or trusted gateways or pretty much anything we discuss in this forum is totally irrelevant to them and actually to the future of NXT.

We will only get the attention of the mass community of Bitcoiners if we come up with a marketing theme / campaign that engages people to adopt NXT.  The will not adopt NXT because it is better or technically superior.  They will only adopt NXT if it meets a need of theirs that Bitcoin does not already currently meet.  

This is why Doge is so popular and is even surpassing Bitcoin in many ways.  Doge meets a social need to feel connected to something warm and fuzzy that Bitcoin does not.

I am at a loss to figure out how NXT can pull off a similar viral meme feat.  But we need to figure that out, fast.



Thank you, rickyjames.

Good to know that we increase the visibility of NXT step by step.

I would like to add that we should have different marketing campaigns and different marketing means for different target groups.

Regarding the PoS over PoW: there we should focus on environment-aware groups and governments.
Regarding the players: NXTopia
Regarding the business people: Asset Exchange.

Etc. etc.

One size does not fit all.
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March 07, 2014, 02:46:18 PM
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Put DOGE on the decentralised exchange and everybody will here about NXT.

The more I think about it, the more I find this idea insanely ingenious!

This should be the very first asset on NXT AE. Cheesy
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March 07, 2014, 02:48:38 PM
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my AE beta release ADD:12081850865691547706

THANKS!
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March 07, 2014, 02:52:19 PM
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Well, I am back from Texas Bitcoin Conference and it was an extremely interesting experience.
Thank you very much!
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March 07, 2014, 03:01:43 PM
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test nxt please thank you

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My test account: 2973390967879414192
for testing Asset Exchange... Thank.

Sent some TestNxt , enjoy it Wink .
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March 07, 2014, 03:09:00 PM
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We will only get the attention of the mass community of Bitcoiners if we come up with a marketing theme / campaign that engages people to adopt NXT.  The will not adopt NXT because it is better or technically superior.  They will only adopt NXT if it meets a need of theirs that Bitcoin does not already currently meet.


We could focus on the decentralized asset exchange. It is something for selfish, technical interested or financial people.

yes, but we need to find a very useful/needed use case for average people to use AE. And it must be a very specific use case, not only some theoretical examples. The average people doesn't care that it could sell its stocks using AE if it would be a company.

The dialog should be like this:
We: With NXT and its AE you can do <some specific, really useful stuff in the daily life>, bam!
People: Really? I can do that with NXT? How can I get some NXT?

The other possibility is to find use cases for businesses that attracts their customers to use NXT.

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March 07, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
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http://87.230.14.1/nxt/nxt.cgi?action=3000&acc=10099366728382057782

NXT distributer?
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March 07, 2014, 03:15:03 PM
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We will only get the attention of the mass community of Bitcoiners if we come up with a marketing theme / campaign that engages people to adopt NXT.  The will not adopt NXT because it is better or technically superior.  They will only adopt NXT if it meets a need of theirs that Bitcoin does not already currently meet.


We could focus on the decentralized asset exchange. It is something for selfish, technical interested or financial people.

yes, but we need to find a very useful/needed use case for average people to use AE. And it must be a very specific use case, not only some theoretical examples. The average people doesn't care that it could sell its stocks using AE if it would be a company.

The dialog should be like this:
We: With NXT and its AE you can do <some specific, really useful stuff in the daily life>, bam!
People: Really? I can do that with NXT? How can I get some NXT?

The other possibility is to find use cases for businesses that attracts their customers to use NXT.

We: Yeah, mtgox. What a disaster. Come to NXT and enjoy decentralized trading.
People: Really? Woah. I'm in.

Now we have to sell this semi-decentralized gateway Grin
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March 07, 2014, 03:25:24 PM
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We will only get the attention of the mass community of Bitcoiners if we come up with a marketing theme / campaign that engages people to adopt NXT.  The will not adopt NXT because it is better or technically superior.  They will only adopt NXT if it meets a need of theirs that Bitcoin does not already currently meet.


We could focus on the decentralized asset exchange. It is something for selfish, technical interested or financial people.

The average people doesn't care that it could sell its stocks using AE...

The dialog should be like this:
We: With NXT and its AE you can do <some specific, really useful stuff in the daily life>, bam!
People: Really? I can do that with NXT? How can I get some NXT?


+1.  This.  Pay attention to this.

Somehow in my gut I feel like this NXT conversation, when it happens, will have something to do with smartphones - probably iPhones.  One of the people I talked to (a group of two guys, actually) claimed to have the only Bitcoin wallet for iPhone because the Apple Store has kicked Bitcoin out of the Apple App ecosystem.  They exploited a clever loophole - an organization can send apps to its members.  So they set up a membership plan which qualifies you to download a group Bitcoin Wallet that is not available to the general public.  Clever.  Maybe NXT could do the same and become the iPhone Cryptocurrency app.

BUT FIRST WE GOTTA GET MERCHANTS TO ACCEPT NXT.  I am going to be doing some research into this, stay tuned.

One last big lesson from Texas Bitcoin Conference - perhaps the bigget one of all.  People want to hear confident leaders on a stage.  People want to hear confident leaders  on a stage.  People want to hear confident leaders  on a stage. 

Until NXT can provide these, we are in the ditch.
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March 07, 2014, 03:29:50 PM
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...

Somehow in my gut I feel like this NXT conversation, when it happens, will have something to do with smartphones - probably iPhones.  One of the people I talked to (a group of two guys, actually) claimed to have the only Bitcoin wallet for iPhone because the Apple Store has kicked Bitcoin out of the Apple App ecosystem.  They exploited a clever loophole - an organization can send apps to its members.  So they set up a membership plan which qualifies you to download a group Bitcoin Wallet that is not available to the general public.  Clever.  Maybe NXT could do the same and become the iPhone Cryptocurrency app.

BUT FIRST WE GOTTA GET MERCHANTS TO ACCEPT NXT.  I am going to be doing some research into this, stay tuned.
...

More info: http://www.coindesk.com/coc-ios-bitcoin-wallet-apple/
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March 07, 2014, 03:31:01 PM
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** Ridiculous **

All I've done is volunteer time over the last few months trying to assist Nxt.  I've had quite a bit of experience in other communities and wanted to help move Nxt forward, nothing more. During this committee election, I received a PM from someone in the community letting me know about some of the dirty tactics being used:

"Two members from CoinTropolis are ahead of me, what does that say about NXT? Are we going to let another Charity site hijack our marketing plans? Seems like a fix, and with two of them we'd be stacking NXT for giving coins to one specialized charity. "

This is such bullshit. Rather than making a big deal about it and outing the person, I'll simply work on another project.  Just to clarify a few items on my way out:

- Songs of Love was one of the first Bitcoin charities, I met them at (drum roll) a Bitcoin Conference last summer
- We are not a charity site, we simply wanted to help out while also giving exposure to Nxt
- I had a ton of experience moving Peercoin forward, it's not like I magically came out of nowhere trying to hijack anything
- A fix? We were donating time out of our day just to help

Winning at any cost? Cool.. enjoy.  I loved my time helping contribute, I appreciate all that I worked with along the way.   As an investor, I'm hoping Nxt continues moving mountains... great community with an amazing piece of tech.

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March 07, 2014, 03:32:10 PM
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We will only get the attention of the mass community of Bitcoiners if we come up with a marketing theme / campaign that engages people to adopt NXT.  The will not adopt NXT because it is better or technically superior.  They will only adopt NXT if it meets a need of theirs that Bitcoin does not already currently meet.


We could focus on the decentralized asset exchange. It is something for selfish, technical interested or financial people.

yes, but we need to find a very useful/needed use case for average people to use AE. And it must be a very specific use case, not only some theoretical examples. The average people doesn't care that it could sell its stocks using AE if it would be a company.

The dialog should be like this:
We: With NXT and its AE you can do <some specific, really useful stuff in the daily life>, bam!
People: Really? I can do that with NXT? How can I get some NXT?

The other possibility is to find use cases for businesses that attracts their customers to use NXT.

sell your house with no legal fees! solicitors take a fair cut for handling the money side! if you can just agree on a sale and then do the money stuff on the asset exchange... cut the money grabbers out. fast and anonymous(soon)

Have you sold/bought a house lately, and see the zillion pages of paper you've got to sign not just for the house but the mortgage on it?  Somehow I doubt that NXT is just magically going to make that all go away.  It is a total racket, and just having two people shaking virtual hands on a mysterious cryptosystem on the internet isn't going to replace it anytime soon.
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March 07, 2014, 03:35:29 PM
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We will only get the attention of the mass community of Bitcoiners if we come up with a marketing theme / campaign that engages people to adopt NXT.  The will not adopt NXT because it is better or technically superior.  They will only adopt NXT if it meets a need of theirs that Bitcoin does not already currently meet.


We could focus on the decentralized asset exchange. It is something for selfish, technical interested or financial people.

The average people doesn't care that it could sell its stocks using AE...

The dialog should be like this:
We: With NXT and its AE you can do <some specific, really useful stuff in the daily life>, bam!
People: Really? I can do that with NXT? How can I get some NXT?


+1.  This.  Pay attention to this.

Somehow in my gut I feel like this NXT conversation, when it happens, will have something to do with smartphones - probably iPhones.  One of the people I talked to (a group of two guys, actually) claimed to have the only Bitcoin wallet for iPhone because the Apple Store has kicked Bitcoin out of the Apple App ecosystem.  They exploited a clever loophole - an organization can send apps to its members.  So they set up a membership plan which qualifies you to download a group Bitcoin Wallet that is not available to the general public.  Clever.  Maybe NXT could do the same and become the iPhone Cryptocurrency app.

BUT FIRST WE GOTTA GET MERCHANTS TO ACCEPT NXT.  I am going to be doing some research into this, stay tuned.

One last big lesson from Texas Bitcoin Conference - perhaps the bigget one of all.  People want to hear confident leaders on a stage.  People want to hear confident leaders  on a stage.  People want to hear confident leaders  on a stage. 

Until NXT can provide these, we are in the ditch.

Man, I wish it was tomorrow, because I have a business meeting with an outside investor who wants to use an AE coin for something quite mainstream, very mobile, very smartphone and the like.
I will be setting up wesleyh's client tonight and show him the Testnet tomorrow at noon.

I cannot go into details at the moment, but I already have confirmation from l8orre that he wants to help out with this.

I am not surprised in the least that tech doesn't interest people.

I hope I will make you and a few others very happy by tomorrow afternoon Smiley

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