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April 29, 2013, 11:07:52 PM
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EXACTLY.

Example, this page has the most potential of any on Devtome Smiley
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cat_meme_page

You do not take into account that all low-hanging fruit themes are very saturated... There is a bajillion of sites with jokes and memes, and there very few reasons for visitors to come specifically to Devtome for this kind of content.

On the other hand, highbrowed content won't automatically get pageviews either.

So, some component is missing... Basically, content must be in demand.

In any case, it makes sense to formulate goals and to measure success against these goals. If it is pageviews, we need to measure them for different articles...

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April 29, 2013, 11:08:30 PM
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What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...
love my little syntax page Cheesy

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April 29, 2013, 11:10:18 PM
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EXACTLY.

Example, this page has the most potential of any on Devtome Smiley
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=cat_meme_page

You do not take into account that all low-hanging fruit themes are very saturated... There is a bajillion of sites with jokes and memes, and there very few reasons for visitors to come specifically to Devtome for this kind of content.

On the other hand, highbrowed content won't automatically get pageviews either.

So, some component is missing... Basically, content must be in demand.

In any case, it makes sense to formulate goals and to measure success against these goals. If it is pageviews, we need to measure them for different articles...

There is nothing missing...

What happens is...
Easy to understand, or funny brings the quick unique traffic.
Block text, Philosophy, ideaology gets leftover traffic, and long term traffic.

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April 29, 2013, 11:11:00 PM
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What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...
love my little syntax page Cheesy

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax

Thanks Smiley

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April 29, 2013, 11:18:05 PM
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What is Syntax? I can't find a link that says that...
love my little syntax page Cheesy

http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=wiki:syntax

Does the wiki have plugins for other markups?  I for one would like to see markdown supported.

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April 29, 2013, 11:22:39 PM
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a question, i probably didn't understand something: i see a lot of "1" shares in the receiver files, but shouldn't all these be 3 or 4 because of the signing bonus? when will that be paid?

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April 29, 2013, 11:40:18 PM
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a question, i probably didn't understand something: i see a lot of "1" shares in the receiver files, but shouldn't all these be 3 or 4 because of the signing bonus? when will that be paid?

I too would like to know this. I am assuming it is because the script only accounts for word and picture counts and not something issued by someone else.

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April 29, 2013, 11:41:11 PM
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Also, can someone link to the daily script run page?

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April 29, 2013, 11:46:05 PM
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Also, can someone link to the daily script run page?
http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=daily_script_results

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April 30, 2013, 12:03:17 AM
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There is nothing missing...

What happens is...
Easy to understand, or funny brings the quick unique traffic.
Block text, Philosophy, ideaology gets leftover traffic, and long term traffic.

You should think in terms of traffic sources. Basically, we have:

1. search engines
2. (external) links
3. returning visitors (e.g. bookmarks)
4. viral

You seem to assume that all new content gets some visitors, but it is simply not true. Suppose you post something "easy to understand or funny". Unless it is absolutely outstanding, you will have no viral traffic. If you do not have a fanbase, you have no returning visitors. Also no links and no traffic from search engines because it is (likely) not unique

So you end up with approximately no traffic.

Scientific topics and such might get something from search engines, and if they are of a high quality they might grow some links.

However, things are different if somebody posts something truly outstanding and unique: that page will have a lot of viral traffic, and virally growing links to it.

It is also possible to leverage existing fan base... For example, if you happen to have some twitter following, you can post links to your articles on devtome and they'll get some pageviews...

So it is much more complex than cats vs. philosophy.

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April 30, 2013, 12:08:38 AM
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There is nothing missing...

What happens is...
Easy to understand, or funny brings the quick unique traffic.
Block text, Philosophy, ideaology gets leftover traffic, and long term traffic.

You should think in terms of traffic sources. Basically, we have:

1. search engines
2. (external) links
3. returning visitors (e.g. bookmarks)
4. viral

You seem to assume that all new content gets some visitors, but it is simply not true. Suppose you post something "easy to understand or funny". Unless it is absolutely outstanding, you will have no viral traffic. If you do not have a fanbase, you have no returning visitors. Also no links and no traffic from search engines because it is (likely) not unique

So you end up with approximately no traffic.

Scientific topics and such might get something from search engines, and if they are of a high quality they might grow some links.

However, things are different if somebody posts something truly outstanding and unique: that page will have a lot of viral traffic, and virally growing links to it.

It is also possible to leverage existing fan base... For example, if you happen to have some twitter following, you can post links to your articles on devtome and they'll get some pageviews...

So it is much more complex than cats vs. philosophy.

You are mistaken, it is not Cats Vs. Philosophy, it is Easily/Quickly Readable VS Needed.

Things that are quick and easy to read, will get more instant views than something that people will look at when they are attempting to write papers, simply because more people are looking to be entertained than educated.

I am not just making things up, this is my experience.

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April 30, 2013, 12:12:04 AM
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It is also possible to leverage existing fan base... For example, if you happen to have some twitter following, you can post links to your articles on devtome and they'll get some pageviews...


I know how this all works Smiley

I'm not guessing, I am just letting people know things.

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April 30, 2013, 12:38:14 AM
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Okay, so... I have a problem. I JUST finished writing my page on Sigmund Freud, and it says that I can't save it because of : Your change was not saved because it contains blocked text (spam). I use the word Anal and Anal Retentive... does devtome not like anal  Wink ?

EDIT: Also I use the word penis.

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April 30, 2013, 12:42:12 AM
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Okay, so... I have a problem. I JUST finished writing my page on Sigmund Freud, and it says that I can't save it because of : Your change was not saved because it contains blocked text (spam). I use the word Anal and Anal Retentive... does devtome not like anal  Wink ?

EDIT: Also I use the word penis.

That happened to me also when trying to post about: Tupac, Ska Pastora and a few other things.

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April 30, 2013, 12:43:50 AM
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Okay, so... I have a problem. I JUST finished writing my page on Sigmund Freud, and it says that I can't save it because of : Your change was not saved because it contains blocked text (spam). I use the word Anal and Anal Retentive... does devtome not like anal  Wink ?

EDIT: Also I use the word penis.

That happened to me also when trying to post about: Tupac, Ska Pastora and a few other things.

Did you ever get around it? The words are being used appropriately in accordance with the subject matter, so I don't get it.

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April 30, 2013, 12:48:46 AM
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Okay, so... I have a problem. I JUST finished writing my page on Sigmund Freud, and it says that I can't save it because of : Your change was not saved because it contains blocked text (spam). I use the word Anal and Anal Retentive... does devtome not like anal  Wink ?

EDIT: Also I use the word penis.

I replaced the six counts of penis with male extremity, and it still says I have spam.

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April 30, 2013, 12:51:48 AM
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Okay, so... I have a problem. I JUST finished writing my page on Sigmund Freud, and it says that I can't save it because of : Your change was not saved because it contains blocked text (spam). I use the word Anal and Anal Retentive... does devtome not like anal  Wink ?

EDIT: Also I use the word penis.

That happened to me also when trying to post about: Tupac, Ska Pastora and a few other things.

Did you ever get around it? The words are being used appropriately in accordance with the subject matter, so I don't get it.

Nope. Just wrote a new article instead.

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April 30, 2013, 01:24:46 AM
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Still looking for some insight to this problem. It is a very well structured page, and I spent a lot of time on it. I won't allow it to go to waste.

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April 30, 2013, 01:34:25 AM
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Still looking for some insight to this problem. It is a very well structured page, and I spent a lot of time on it. I won't allow it to go to waste.

Copy it to notepad, I will look into which setting is causing it.

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April 30, 2013, 03:57:50 AM
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a question, i probably didn't understand something: i see a lot of "1" shares in the receiver files, but shouldn't all these be 3 or 4 because of the signing bonus? when will that be paid?

I too would like to know this. I am assuming it is because the script only accounts for word and picture counts and not something issued by someone else.

The signing bonuses are in another file. I was actually meaning to talk to the daily script guy about including those. As far as I can tell, this is the most up-to-date source: https://github.com/Unthinkingbit/charity/blob/master/bounty_23.csv

I'm curious what people thought about my idea a few pages back: there should be a dedicated site with 1) a section devoted to explaining how the shares work, how valuable shares were in the past, and a section (updated daily) showing how many shares are slated to be distributed in the next round, and 2) a section listing all the bounties, a section where people can propose bounties and vote on the amount of shares each bounty is worth.

I'd propose a bounty for such a site, but I would love to work on this, so I don't want to be too biased. Smiley

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