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May 01, 2018, 07:48:30 PM
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OK so I did a real moronic mistake.  I was apparently in a rush or so.  I dont remember what I did with the passphrase for my wallet.  I have been able to gain access to a file and was able to open it.  It has all of my sending and receiving addresses, seed, type of wallet, xprv and xpub.  Its not going on 2 months and I would really like to be able to gain access to this.  Im not a NOOB with anything.  I got BTC-Recover and I have been watching the videos as well as still researching everything.  Does ANYONE at all KNOW how to do this?  It isnt really a lot of money.  I just dont want to lose a small $100 bucks
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May 01, 2018, 07:55:11 PM
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Which file is that? And if that's your wallet, how did you open it without the password?

Anyways, the seed is everything you need to know. Just go to 'File' -> 'New/Restore' -> 'Standard Wallet' -> 'I already have a seed' -> Write your seed & Next -> Write a new password or let it blank & Next -> Done.

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May 01, 2018, 08:21:55 PM
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I have been able to gain access to a file and was able to open it.  It has all of my sending and receiving addresses, seed, type of wallet, xprv and xpub. 

You are able to recover your funds with either your seed or your xpriv key.
Simply follow TryNinja's steps to import the seed into a new electrum wallet.

Keep in mind that it is NOT advised to store such sensitive information (seed, xpriv) on your PC.
If you have them unencrypted it might be more convinient (and not much less secure) to simply use electrum without a password.

You should either store such information only 1) properly encrypted or 2) offline (e.g. written on paper, offline pc, ...).

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May 01, 2018, 09:24:17 PM
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OK so I did a real moronic mistake.  I was apparently in a rush or so.  I dont remember what I did with the passphrase for my wallet.  I have been able to gain access to a file and was able to open it.  It has all of my sending and receiving addresses, seed, type of wallet, xprv and xpub.  Its not going on 2 months and I would really like to be able to gain access to this.  Im not a NOOB with anything.  I got BTC-Recover and I have been watching the videos as well as still researching everything.  Does ANYONE at all KNOW how to do this?  It isnt really a lot of money.  I just dont want to lose a small $100 bucks
If you do still have the access into the wallet itself you can anytime to get the xprv and the seed itself.The steps on how to restore is being mentioned already above which is correct.
Suggestions on storing your seed or key shouldnt really be on cloud.Just like mine i do store it or wrote in on a paper and made a copy itself on a usb stick 3 pcs. Might just like a basic storage but a good practice on securing things up.
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May 02, 2018, 01:43:10 AM
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OK so I did a real moronic mistake.  I was apparently in a rush or so.  I dont remember what I did with the passphrase for my wallet.  I have been able to gain access to a file and was able to open it.  It has all of my sending and receiving addresses, seed, type of wallet, xprv and xpub.  Its not going on 2 months and I would really like to be able to gain access to this.  Im not a NOOB with anything.  I got BTC-Recover and I have been watching the videos as well as still researching everything.  Does ANYONE at all KNOW how to do this?  It isnt really a lot of money.  I just dont want to lose a small $100 bucks
If you have your seed you are okey.
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May 02, 2018, 03:46:30 AM
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I have been able to gain access to a file and was able to open it.  It has all of my sending and receiving addresses, seed, type of wallet, xprv and xpub.
does your seed look something like this:
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"seed": "stem produce gather bachelor wealth deal electric olympic iron pencil measure daughter"

or something like this:
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"seed": "raUdcXYAsPA/YySQi7i8zS/z5TqXNpOWBknGvuzVs1N9iCfW7QIn6am29p+MHFEO4CxWtSggSmmVG/OEl+YT6x+2tY1itGyB9oCoGF8y/1dJ9FBeh+/Fz68MrcwWQ3MU"

If it looks like the first one (ie. unencrypted -> random words), then you can simply restore you wallet using the method listed by TryNinja up thread... and typing in the seed words when prompted... you don't need to worry about having your original password, you can just set a new one.

However, if it looks like the second one (ie. encrypted -> mix of random characters), then what you have is a password protected, unencrypted wallet file. So, even though the file itself is not encrypted, because you have a password, the sensitive data (like your seed and private keys) is stored encrypted.

In this case, if you don't have a record of your seed words written down somewhere, your only option is to attempt to crack the password using something like btcrecover... which won't work unless you have a fairly good idea what your password was... or it was a very simple password (ie. 8 characters or less)


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May 02, 2018, 03:24:16 PM
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Okay after much-needed sleep and rest of my body and resting my mind I have come back to read your responses.  My seed is numbers and letters in hex format.  My xprv key starts with blor and it extends length wise longer than any normal xprv that I have ever seen before.
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May 02, 2018, 04:09:37 PM
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Does your seed look like the example HCP gave? That's not hex. That's base64. It's got mixed case + certain special characters. Is that what it looks like?

Alternatively if it's hex then it would be just numbers 0-9 and single case letters a-f. Is that what you are seeing?

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May 03, 2018, 07:51:29 AM
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Okay after much-needed sleep and rest of my body and resting my mind I have come back to read your responses.  My seed is numbers and letters in hex format.  My xprv key starts with blor and it extends length wise longer than any normal xprv that I have ever seen before.
Pretty sure what you have there is a password protected, unencrypted wallet file... it is basically useless to you for the purposes of wallet recovery... UNLESS you have a relatively good idea what your password was! Then "btcrecover" might be able to help. You'll just need to create a tokens file and let btcrecover do it's thing... The best tutorial is the btcrecover documentation on GitHub here: https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md#btcrecover-tutorial

Note that no-one can really provide you a tokens file... as it needs to be tailored to your specific password structure and how much you can remember of your wallet password. Like, is it just letters and numbers? did you use symbols? roughly how many characters was it? etc etc

I'm guessing that you do not have your 12 seed words written down somewhere? Huh

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May 03, 2018, 08:00:38 AM
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@HCP Pre 2.0 seeds were basically one large hex number that could be converted to and from the mnemonic. The chances are slim though because those were not bip32 and he talks about xprv and xpub. Here's what i looks like when I restore from hex:

http://termbin.com/1ti9

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May 03, 2018, 04:25:02 PM
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Does your seed look like the example HCP gave? That's not hex. That's base64. It's got mixed case + certain special characters. Is that what it looks like?

Alternatively if it's hex then it would be just numbers 0-9 and single case letters a-f. Is that what you are seeing?


After lookimg.at the file and closely looking at it, I believe it is Base 64
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May 03, 2018, 04:34:32 PM
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2Gq2ZXQa+BsDJMo32OefFTDOOOUUl+gbKP6USLStleWtjCa7wiee9qYziNBr2Od4H/

That's part of the seed if anyone knows of any tool to convert.  There is 2 more /'s and more letters and numbers.  Even the XPRV code doesn't look normal to me.  It also has /'s in it
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May 04, 2018, 01:57:03 AM
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2Gq2ZXQa+BsDJMo32OefFTDOOOUUl+gbKP6USLStleWtjCa7wiee9qYziNBr2Od4H/

That's part of the seed if anyone knows of any tool to convert.  There is 2 more /'s and more letters and numbers.  Even the XPRV code doesn't look normal to me.  It also has /'s in it

Yes, as I said earlier... it's a password protected, unencrypted wallet file.

So, while the file itself is in "cleartext" and you can read the addresses, transaction history and all the labels... the sensitive information within the file (like private keys, xprv's and/or seed) is encrypted (with AES256 if I'm not mistaken)... using your wallet password.

You should be able to open this wallet in Electrum and see all your history etc. It won't prompt for a password until you try and access the sensitive data (like try to display the seed or sign a transaction etc). Without your wallet password, this wallet file is not much use to you. You can try using btcrecover, but without a good idea of what your password was (or knowing that it was only 8-10 characters long, no special symbols etc) then your chances of being able to bruteforce the password is quite low.


For the record, an Electrum wallet can be in one of three levels of "encryption" as follows... (OP has #2)

1. Non-password protected (Entire file in cleartext, private keys/seeds etc also in clear text):

(NOTE: "xprv" starts with "xprv" and cleartext seed)


2. Password protected, unencrypted (File in cleartext, sensitive data encrypted with wallet password):

(NOTE: xprv does NOT start "xprv", encrypted seed, however xpub (non-sensitive) is still plaintext etc)


3. Password protected, encrypted (file is toally encrypted):

(NOTE: The very last character in the file is most likely a "=")

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May 07, 2018, 11:09:29 AM
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I guess I'm at a small loss then.  I have tried everything and can't seem to fix my issue.  Damn....thanks for the replies tho
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May 07, 2018, 11:26:14 AM
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I guess I'm at a small loss then.  I have tried everything and can't seem to fix my issue.

Did you try out btcrecover?

If you have any clue about your password there is a realistic chance of bruteforcing it.

Do you remember anything regarding your password(s) ?
  • Minimal/maximal length of your password ?
  • Characters you definetely used (or definetely didn't use) ?
  • Any pattern (like numbers at the end) ?
  • Special characters (do you only choose between a few of them) ?

Any information can be helpful in decreasing the search space and therefore also decreasing the required time to bruteforce a password.

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May 07, 2018, 08:48:03 PM
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I guess I'm at a small loss then.  I have tried everything and can't seem to fix my issue.

Did you try out btcrecover?

If you have any clue about your password there is a realistic chance of bruteforcing it.

Do you remember anything regarding your password(s) ?
  • Minimal/maximal length of your password ?
  • Characters you definetely used (or definetely didn't use) ?
  • Any pattern (like numbers at the end) ?
  • Special characters (do you only choose between a few of them) ?

Any information can be helpful in decreasing the search space and therefore also decreasing the required time to bruteforce a password.



If I did have any idea, it would have already been recovered.  I've got btcrecover and haven't been successful yet
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