[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process

[matt4054]

he is waiting till the price is below 100 dollars, maybe than he can afford to buy our coins back

<100 on Gox... so you're talking about a blackhole-to-blackhole transfer right?

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[dnaleor]

I really hope I get my BTC ("only" 400 mBTC) back before BTC jumps to 10000 USD.

I was just "meh" when BTC was 100 USD
I was pissed at 1000 USD  
I do not want to imagine the situation when BTC hits 10000 USD  

You shouldn't have a problem finding a good brewery where you are 

that is true

[Regenmacher]

updates ?

[V2Rocket]

updates ?

No.  Got a bank to run.

http://s23.postimg.org/72c3c5qpn/goatse.png

Mods!  This image is not photoshopped.  It is the actual Neo ad, from a link posted in this thread.  Any resemblance to the goatse meme is purely coincidental (unless Danny is trolling us).  Do not delete!

[Sledge]

I've been watching the MtGox story unfold on Twitter (@twobitidiot seems to have the story and is waiting for his lawyer to give him the OK to post it).

Something about it reminds me of our situation with Ukyo. @MarkFolan1 tweeted this:

"If the #bitcoin "theft" is'n't on the blockchain then #mtgox still have them but can't access them!"

Now doesn't that sound familiar to people who follow this thread?

[kano]

I've been watching the MtGox story unfold on Twitter (@twobitidiot seems to have the story and is waiting for his lawyer to give him the OK to post it).

Something about it reminds me of our situation with Ukyo. @MarkFolan1 tweeted this:

"If the #bitcoin "theft" is'n't on the blockchain then #mtgox still have them but can't access them!"

Now doesn't that sound familiar to people who follow this thread?

It's unrelated.

[DeadwoodDan]

It's probably an unrelated crime, but the coverup scheme is the exact same: just keep quiet, occasionally alluding to legal reasons for not disclosing anything, while other people hint and imply that some sort of government intervention or seizure may or may not have occurred.  Is it true? Who can tell? Certainly not the bagholders.  What is truth anyway?  THIS IS BITCOIN

[Regenmacher]

For those who do not know me, I am Danny Brewster of Neo & Bee (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=289730.0;topicseen) Neo & Bee has agreed to take an active role in ensuring this situation gets resolved.

I have a full understanding of the situation (...) . The biggest question is going to be “why or how has this happened?” I will be providing the answer in full (...)

To this end, we would like to ask that everyone continues to be patient while the final preparations are put in place that will allow for users to enable recovery of their funds, (...)

[matt4054]

Hello Danny,

Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.

(...)

You can have my word that everything conceivably possible, to resolve these problems are being done to the best of our abilities.

We don't know each other, but given your promise in your OP, the money that is involved here, and the total lack of progress recently, I hereby publicly - and copy by PM to you - urge you to either distance yourself entirely from Ukyo and amend your OP accordingly, or bear the responsibility for him. That means negative feedback will be given, associated to your account and will not be removed until the issue is resolved on your side.

My patience is at an end, and I encourage every victim here following this topic to send the same PM and to do the same negative feedback if no statement is made within a reasonable period of time. So please, Danny, if you are a victim of Ukyo yourself, please explain and distance yourself from him to avoid negative feedback.

Please understand my position, even MtGox was eventually forced to release the awful truth.

Thanks for your attention.

Regards,

Matt

[stereotype]

Ukyo truly is a sucker trying to be funny and smart but no one gives a fuck, give back our money and GTFO.

Ukyo was quite active on IRC yesterday. I think I missed the first part but this is what I got:

Code: (#bitfunder)

<[\\\]> des`: progress for whom? ;-)
<Ukyo> heh
<Ukyo> making progress all around
<Syloq> heh
<Ukyo> just wish there wasnt so much red tape
...
<Syloq> Ukyo, updates?
<Ukyo> heh
* Syloq asks expecting an ans...holy crap
<Syloq> I need my thousands of satoshi!
<Ukyo> thats what... 1 gox token?
<Ukyo> :P
<ThickAsThieves> was Bitfunder the first malleability victim?
<Ukyo> er
<Ukyo> bitfunder never touched bitcoins
<ThickAsThieves> oh you know what i mean!
<ThickAsThieves> weex
...
<the20year2> i didn't think it was amalleability issue, but a sql one
<the20year2> HTML/code wasn't disabled on support tickets for bitfunder/weex
<Ukyo> defenitely not the issue
<Ukyo> never had an issue of sql injection

Red tape-AKA-getting my bitcoin out of Gox.

Was listening to Charlie Shrem on LTB last night. What struck me was how much faith and belief the upper echelons still gave Gox/Mark K, by continuing to use/deposit/trade funds there. Lots of reflection going on at the mo with some movers and shakers out there, with regards to diligent judgement of risk. Reasonable judgement has been clouded for many, and im sure much self-flagellation will play out when they question why Mark's pedestal was so stupidly high.  

Anyway, it seems inconceivable Ukyo did not have funds at Gox. So theres another excuse, right there.  

[Bitdust]

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Lots of reflection going on at the mo with some movers and shakers out there, with regards to diligent judgement of risk.
...

Subtle

[Pompobit]

Hello Danny,

Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.

(...)

You can have my word that everything conceivably possible, to resolve these problems are being done to the best of our abilities.

We don't know each other, but given your promise in your OP, the money that is involved here, and the total lack of progress recently, I hereby publicly - and copy by PM to you - urge you to either distance yourself entirely from Ukyo and amend your OP accordingly, or bear the responsibility for him. That means negative feedback will be given, associated to your account and will not be removed until the issue is resolved on your side.

My patience is at an end, and I encourage every victim here following this topic to send the same PM and to do the same negative feedback if no statement is made within a reasonable period of time. So please, Danny, if you are a victim of Ukyo yourself, please explain and distance yourself from him to avoid negative feedback.

Please understand my position, even MtGox was eventually forced to release the awful truth.

Thanks for your attention.

Regards,

Matt

I agree, Danny's intervention prevented an active action against Ukyo. Now are been months without updates on this matter, I understand he is running a company (and seems very well) that drains efforts and time, but he personally give us his word to fix the issue, and that it would have been his priority.
I don't see his word has been honoured

[Sledge]

Ukyo, did you finally disappear?

[nwfella]

Ukyo, did you finally disappear?

Oh boy :/

[SebastianJu]

He was in chat yesterday but only said that things move on but nothing ready for the public.

[Sledge]

Ukyo, did you finally disappear?

Why in the world would he disappear?  That would involve being on the move, looking over his shoulder, etc., etc.  The way things are now, all he has to do is type a few random words every couple of days, and everybody's happy.  With MtGox folding, he's not even news any more.  Give it a few more months, and everyone will stop bugging him.
This is Bitcoin

Yeah yeah...

[BitHub]

I want a japanese sorry bow from Ukyo at least.

Has his facebook been mentioned here yet? I think i've found it.

https://www.facebook.com/jon.montroll

from fortworth texas, friends with Mark Karlepes

wife is https://www.facebook.com/Sarabellum1976.

mother is - https://www.facebook.com/jennah.montroll

I have saved all the info from this facebook, friends list (pretty important), pictures from both his and his wife (incase he deletes it)

[krimsonkla]

At this point i would almost rather force him into bankruptcy than continue this charade... The MTGox BS sounds so close to what we have been dealing with but on an accelerated schedule. Makes me thinks I'm a fool for giving my continued trust.

[dnaleor]

Hello Danny,

Everyone at Neo & Bee are now involved in this resolution process.

(...)

You can have my word that everything conceivably possible, to resolve these problems are being done to the best of our abilities.

We don't know each other, but given your promise in your OP, the money that is involved here, and the total lack of progress recently, I hereby publicly - and copy by PM to you - urge you to either distance yourself entirely from Ukyo and amend your OP accordingly, or bear the responsibility for him. That means negative feedback will be given, associated to your account and will not be removed until the issue is resolved on your side.

My patience is at an end, and I encourage every victim here following this topic to send the same PM and to do the same negative feedback if no statement is made within a reasonable period of time. So please, Danny, if you are a victim of Ukyo yourself, please explain and distance yourself from him to avoid negative feedback.

Please understand my position, even MtGox was eventually forced to release the awful truth.

Thanks for your attention.

Regards,

Matt

agreed.

Basically, bad rating will maybe result in bad press for Neo, so this is our only hope, because ukyo is clearly doing very little to nothing to solve the situation. I have send the same PM

[dnaleor]

I want a japanese sorry bow from Ukyo at least.

Has his facebook been mentioned here yet? I think i've found it.

https://www.facebook.com/jon.montroll