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November 27, 2013, 07:09:22 PM
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November 27, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
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I'm sorry for your loss, but when I did reach to read this...

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Right now I finished everything and struggling to install clean Win 7 on my laptop
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made me so Shocked

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November 27, 2013, 07:19:15 PM
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I'm sorry for your loss, but when I did reach to read this...

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Right now I finished everything and struggling to install clean Win 7 on my laptop
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made me so Shocked
I did all new wallets, change passwords etc. on another, not virused computer (my brothers) if you mean that. Format and installed clean new Win on laptop.

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November 27, 2013, 07:54:19 PM
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I would only use linux if i had to deal with such amount of crypto-money.

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Or, at least, separated Win machines under virtualbox (very easy to use).

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November 27, 2013, 08:09:59 PM
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hope they didnt got your private key, from what i have been reading, if they have your private keys, the only way to be safe is to transfer the coins to a different address with a clean key.

I would only use linux if i had to deal with such amount of crypto-money.

This.
Or, at least, separated Win machines under virtualbox (very easy to use).

yes, even a different system on virtualbox would increase security.
I also thought about it. Will do for sure. Even today.

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November 27, 2013, 09:02:07 PM
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Ah and important note.
I mentioned in my first post of this thread that I was not sure if I change passphrase for wallet then is it sent to whole network or not before synced?.

And no it is not, whoever has your wallet with your previous pass can do that  until you synced with your wallet with new password.

I think this is big disadvantage of current desktop wallets.


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November 27, 2013, 09:52:11 PM
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Sorry that this has happened to you. Although it was a mistake on your end.
Try linux next time, and less "suspicious" coins.
Yep I admitted it. But it is still no excuse for the man behind it. But you know there will be more advanced methods of wallet attacks. Right now I'm creating fortress from my PC before install anything from net.
or just have one where you keep wallets. Have 0 software aside from security (unless you can use linux).


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November 27, 2013, 09:54:51 PM
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Sorry that this has happened to you. Although it was a mistake on your end.
Try linux next time, and less "suspicious" coins.
Yep I admitted it. But it is still no excuse for the man behind it. But you know there will be more advanced methods of wallet attacks. Right now I'm creating fortress from my PC before install anything from net.
or just have one where you keep wallets. Have 0 software aside from security (unless you can use linux).
Yep at this moment I am also downloading linux iso and will install it on VM. All of that + anti-keylogger and I will feel a bit more better.

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November 27, 2013, 10:29:20 PM
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I feel very sorry for your loss!   Sad

But maybe you can take comfort in the knowledge, that your example will be a warning to all the cryptocurrency users. I will immediately secure my altcoin wallets, that's for sure!

For BTC I use an offline wallet (armory). Are there any offline wallets for altcoins as well?

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November 27, 2013, 10:32:13 PM
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Sorry to hear about that. At least you can learn from it and now know how to better secure your funds for next time. If you don't mind me asking, how much in USD did you lose total?

Also, if you're just investing in lots of coins and not planning to spend them, there is no reason to even use wallet clients (I can only speak for the couple of alts I own, not all) - I have almost all of my funds stored in paper wallets that were generated on an offline computer that never has and never will be connected to the internet (old thing that doesn't even have wireless). Even if my main computer were to be completely taken over, the most someone would be stealing would be some random family photos, maybe my Facebook password, and some pron that they could just stream for free anyway.

I only keep a tiny fraction of funds in a hot wallet for spending, but at this point I mean can you even spend megacoin and all the others anywhere anyway? So no point keeping them hot.
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November 27, 2013, 10:40:33 PM
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How is this news? A novice computer user downloads a trojan and loses all his coins. It's not the first time it's happened, and it's going to become a lot more frequent.

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November 27, 2013, 10:45:55 PM
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I feel very sorry for your loss!   Sad

But maybe you can take comfort in the knowledge, that your example will be a warning to all the cryptocurrency users. I will immediately secure my altcoin wallets, that's for sure!

For BTC I use an offline wallet (armory). Are there any offline wallets for altcoins as well?
Yes I wrote this thread also for that - to warn the others, especially new ones. I don't know about offline wallets for other altcoins.

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November 27, 2013, 10:49:46 PM
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Sorry to hear about that. At least you can learn from it and now know how to better secure your funds for next time. If you don't mind me asking, how much in USD did you lose total?

Also, if you're just investing in lots of coins and not planning to spend them, there is no reason to even use wallet clients (I can only speak for the couple of alts I own, not all) - I have almost all of my funds stored in paper wallets that were generated on an offline computer that never has and never will be connected to the internet (old thing that doesn't even have wireless). Even if my main computer were to be completely taken over, the most someone would be stealing would be some random family photos, maybe my Facebook password, and some pron that they could just stream for free anyway.

I only keep a tiny fraction of funds in a hot wallet for spending, but at this point I mean can you even spend megacoin and all the others anywhere anyway? So no point keeping them hot.
How much I lost you can count from my first post. I wrote there how many and which coins I lost, it is also visible on screenshots.
Personally I didn't invested "that much", the coins just went extremely high from day I bought and if I would lost the amount (from my bank account) that their are worth right know, then it woud hurt me very badly.
I had encrypted wallets but right now on my newly installed os I also downloaded anti-keylogger.. Just in case.

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November 28, 2013, 09:50:06 AM
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That's why i ask often to provide the checksum of the client files, read -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347391.0

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November 28, 2013, 10:17:06 AM
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Do you have a wallet password for sending transaction?

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November 28, 2013, 10:24:22 AM
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How is this news? A novice computer user downloads a trojan and loses all his coins. It's not the first time it's happened, and it's going to become a lot more frequent.

Yes but it will be a huge limitation on future growth of Crypto.  Not everyone uses linux, most assume that when you have a strong password and an anti-virus system you are safe.
People losing very large amounts of money to theives needs to stop in the crypto world.  The people doing it are modern day bank robbers.


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November 28, 2013, 10:27:18 AM
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That's why i ask often to provide the checksum of the client files, read -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347391.0
That's very good idea.

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November 28, 2013, 10:29:11 AM
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Do you have a wallet password for sending transaction?
Ofcourse, I had for every wallets and have completely new ones for new wallets.

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November 28, 2013, 10:31:01 AM
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How is this news? A novice computer user downloads a trojan and loses all his coins. It's not the first time it's happened, and it's going to become a lot more frequent.

Yes but it will be a huge limitation on future growth of Crypto.  Not everyone uses linux, most assume that when you have a strong password and an anti-virus system you are safe.
People losing very large amounts of money to theives needs to stop in the crypto world.  The people doing it are modern day bank robbers.

Right now, after everything I've been through, apart from anti-malware and anti-virus I highly suggest also anti-keylogger software.

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November 28, 2013, 10:48:09 AM
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Personally i think it was installed as a root kit, might wanna look at sophos anti rootkit too.

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