Process on tracking down a scammer on this forum

[Jeffrey]

Hi guys,

I'm in the process of finding and suing Shylok, real name Aihab Abogalil, from Greece and/or Israel.
Maybe he's active on more names, so here is the story, if you recognize parts of it, be careful.

- He offered to sell me 300 BlockErupter and USB hubs
- At that time i hadn't heard of Escrow yet so I agreed to buy from him
- First he wanted Western Union and pushed me transfering money on a sunday, which I didn't do
- His promise was he had guys at his warehouse who could ship for him, even on sunday evening
- It started to feel dodgy so we agreed on me paying half in BTC, him shipping a part, me paying the rest, him shipping the rest. This was my mistake for being too greedy to get the Erupters, I should've stopped it here
- He sent me a copy of his ID (see below) and a mail from an official DELL employee account (or at least thats what it looks like)
- 4 BTC were paid, he stayed in touch a little coming up with weird excuses for not shipping
- Excuses were he was out of fiat money to pay for shipping, no time, etc
- After a few days he stopped replying
- I made him a deadline to ship something or send the BTC back but no reply
- A little later I got a mail from his hotmail account, where a "friend" of his told he was out of the country because a family relative died
- I said I would give him a week to sort things
- After not hearing anything again I made him another deadline, which just passed

I've edited this and other posts in this thread to remove some personal information from both him and me.

Buyers: please be aware and don't be as stupid as I was
Scammers: be warned, not everybody will just accept being scammed...

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[vandeam]

Please..

https://www.facebook.com/junkkie

i'm israeli... if u need any help PM me

[vandeam]

TSR at Dell and Vice President at S.C.C - SATAN COMPUTERS CORP.
Past: 013 Netvision
Went to streets of hell
1998 to present
Lives in Athens, Greece
From Haifa, Israel
Followed by 3 people

[Jeffrey]

Nice find, thanks!

Perhaps you can help me out in a bit, I''ll contact you

[Jeffrey]

On his facebook are messages of him buying a new computer, a new phone, a new Versace suit. Guess how he got that money huh... And he has blocked me now, so seems it's really this guy.

[Martijnvdc]

I'm willing to help you out.
I'll even do it for free!

[vandeam]

i'v done some research and..

he also hangs out at this bar

https://www.facebook.com/athenssportsbar
3a Veikou, koukaki, 11742 Athens, Greece


as you can see here:
https://www.facebook.com/events/127121574111301/permalink/127941260695999/

and here
https://www.facebook.com/events/221300641328475/permalink/221571737968032/

he is listed on the "maybe" arrival list.

hope this helps

[Jeffrey]

Seems he's not new to scamming people

http://www.epicnpc.com/threads/368406-Beware-that-paladin!

[Martijnvdc]

So what's your plan on making him pay for the scam?

[Lauda]

Is it allowed to post his real details here in the public?
Anyways PM'd.

[Jeffrey]

I'm already taking legal steps with the police and Dutch ambassy in Greece and his employer. I'm not posting more details here in public as I'm sure he'll read this at some point.

[BitcoinFr34k]

What kind of information are you looking for? It looks like you have pretty much everything you need.

[BitcoinFr34k]

REMOVED AT THE REQUEST OF OP.

[Lauda]

It's still not accurate enough even if that was from his house.

[BitcoinFr34k]

It's still not accurate enough even if that was from his house.

How is it not accurate? I posted the address with it (edited in the post). If you contact the authorities,give his name and location they will find him for sure.
I didn't set the marker in Bing Maps. Facebook linked it there. If he used WiFi to post it, it'll certainly be his address.

[Lauda]

It's still not accurate enough even if that was from his house.

How is it not accurate? I posted the address with it (edited in the post). If you contact the authorities,give his name and location they will find him for sure.
I didn't set the marker in Bing Maps. Facebook linked it there. If he used WiFi to post it, it'll certainly be his address.

It points to the middle of a street. He could be up to (i'm just putting random numbers here) 500m, 1000m or more away. Unless the police does something, this area isn't that much helpful. One would have to cover many houses and buildings and thousands of people.

[BitcoinFr34k]

It's still not accurate enough even if that was from his house.

How is it not accurate? I posted the address with it (edited in the post). If you contact the authorities,give his name and location they will find him for sure.
I didn't set the marker in Bing Maps. Facebook linked it there. If he used WiFi to post it, it'll certainly be his address.

It points to the middle of a street. He could be up to (i'm just putting random numbers here) 500m, 1000m or more away. Unless the police does something, this area isn't that much helpful. One would have to cover many houses and buildings and thousands of people.

You do know the police can search in their system at what address someone is registered right? If you give them an approximate location, they can verify if you're talking about the same person.

[Jeffrey]

Just got contacted by 2 other people he scammed.

All information will go to the Greek police and we'll take it from there. I'll include the address location and point where we got it from so the police knows it's not the exact address but it's the area.

Keep the information coming guys!

[RBCastro]

F***

CAN'T TRUST NOBODY TO BUY ASICMINERS NOW!!!

[BitcoinFr34k]

REMOVED AT THE REQUEST OF OP.

[BitcoinFr34k]

REMOVED AT THE REQUEST OF OP.

[Sindelar1938]

This has the makings of an awesome shakedown

Hope you get the bastard

[RBCastro]

Here is his bank account:

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His facebook page:

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Someone who live in Athens could call the Police to get this scammer and at least give us our money back!

[bitcoinpsftp]

I'm definitely following this thread.  This is going to be so much fun.  Yea, best of luck catching him.  He's lucky he ran into you, a nice guy who calls the police.  If he ended up scamming somebody with a different "idea" of justice... oh boy.  Because he DEFINITELY is not very careful about his personal information.


Just a thought:  What if every time he scams, he uses this name and passport picture (one he might have found somewhere online), and this is all leading to some random dude who has no idea what's going on?  I know it's unlikely since he's bragging of getting a recent new computer... but still.

[userteste]

LOL, nsa is less eficient.

[Martijnvdc]

dang...
10/10, bitcointalk... Keep it up!

[Ravocado]

Wow, this guy is seriously sharing too much personal information on the web...OP hope you'll get money back.

[Martijnvdc]

Wow, this guy is seriously sharing too much personal information on the web...OP hope you'll get money back.

You'd be amazed how many people leave so much info about themselves. People are completely careless since the rise of social media.

[RBCastro]

Wow, this guy is seriously sharing too much personal information on the web...OP hope you'll get money back.

You'd be amazed how many people leave so much info about themselves. People are completely careless since the rise of social media.

Yes, but no one leaves such informations to steal money.

[BitcoinFr34k]

Wow, this guy is seriously sharing too much personal information on the web...OP hope you'll get money back.

You'd be amazed how many people leave so much info about themselves. People are completely careless since the rise of social media.

Yes, but no one leaves such informations to steal money.

Says enough about how dumb he is.

[bitcoinpsftp]

Wow, this guy is seriously sharing too much personal information on the web...OP hope you'll get money back.

You'd be amazed how many people leave so much info about themselves. People are completely careless since the rise of social media.

Yes, but no one leaves such informations to steal money.

Says enough about how dumb he is.

Again... I'm really hoping that he is not using some poor soul's name and passport photo.  Again, doubt it because he is cheering himself on his new alienware and stuff, but still, a smart thief, when asked for his passport picture, will usually find many such pictures on a quick google search...

[BitcoinFr34k]

Wow, this guy is seriously sharing too much personal information on the web...OP hope you'll get money back.

You'd be amazed how many people leave so much info about themselves. People are completely careless since the rise of social media.

Yes, but no one leaves such informations to steal money.

Says enough about how dumb he is.

Again... I'm really hoping that he is not using some poor soul's name and passport photo.  Again, doubt it because he is cheering himself on his new alienware and stuff, but still, a smart thief, when asked for his passport picture, will usually find many such pictures on a quick google search...

There are too many things that are linked to eachother. On his ICQ page is also a picture of him, his Skype dat of birth matches and plenty of other details that are easily overlooked. This guy has scammed people on a WoW forum 2 years ago and probably thought he could get away with it again.

[RBCastro]

Wow, this guy is seriously sharing too much personal information on the web...OP hope you'll get money back.

You'd be amazed how many people leave so much info about themselves. People are completely careless since the rise of social media.

Yes, but no one leaves such informations to steal money.

Says enough about how dumb he is.

Again... I'm really hoping that he is not using some poor soul's name and passport photo.  Again, doubt it because he is cheering himself on his new alienware and stuff, but still, a smart thief, when asked for his passport picture, will usually find many such pictures on a quick google search...

There are too many things that are linked to eachother. On his ICQ page is also a picture of him, his Skype dat of birth matches and plenty of other details that are easily overlooked. This guy has scammed people on a WoW forum 2 years ago and probably thought he could get away with it again.

On his facebook page also. If he send me my asics I'll delete all my messages. If not, i'll gonna get my money back.

[Lauda]

LOL, nsa is less eficient.

Together, we are stronger.

[NUFCrichard]

This is an awesome but scary thread.  So basically all of our personal information is available online!
I am going to have to look through my social media, though I don't plan to scam anyone either

[moderate]

This is an awesome but scary thread.  So basically all of our personal information is available online!
I am going to have to look through my social media, though I don't plan to scam anyone either

You're already doing it by promoting scam on your signature.

[Lauda]

This is an awesome but scary thread.  So basically all of our personal information is available online!
I am going to have to look through my social media, though I don't plan to scam anyone either

Actually no.
Google yourself, your emails and all of that. I'm doing this on a regular basis. If you're doing it right you're safe.

[Tad3j]

Yeah so, he also send to me the offer of buying some asic miners with the same passport on this picture ... Well he did not scam me, but I think you guys deserve to catch him.

[gloryninja]

I just saw this guy still posting crap on this forum. He is still trying to squeeze every bit of scam he can get.

[Jeffrey]

Thanks everybody for all your support in getting information and just messages saying you hope we're catching him.

I'm going to stop sharing details from here as the legal processes are starting.
All I can say here is that his boss emailed me asking me to call him, and my embassy has agreed to help me with reporting him to the greek police.

I hope he's reading this and starting to shit his pants.

Major steps in this process will be placed in future updates (as long as it's allowed by the police etc.)

[BitcoinFr34k]

Thanks everybody for all your support in getting information and just messages saying you hope we're catching him.

I'm going to stop sharing details from here as the legal processes are starting.
All I can say here is that his boss emailed me asking me to call him, and my embassy has agreed to help me with reporting him to the greek police.

I hope he's reading this and starting to shit his pants.

Major steps in this process will be placed in future updates (as long as it's allowed by the police etc.)

That's great to hear! I hope you can bring justice to this guy!
Let me know if you want me to edit my posts (and delete the private info).

EDIT:  I bet he is reading all this: Last Active: Today at 10:29:39 AM

[Jeffrey]

For legal reasons I'll be removing all personal information from this thread. Everyting is written down (and sent to the right people who will take it from here)
I've also written down the names of people who have assisted me, I'll contact you by PM in a little while.

I'll keep this topic open to post updates. First to inform people who showed interest in this process and second to (hopefully) scare away some (potential) scammers so they'll think twice before trying to rip somebody off.

[Lauda]

Looking good. Hopefully you get your coins back.

[zakorus]

hope you get your coins back. scammers piss me the hell off

[k99]

i got a PM from shylock as reply to my post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354554
maybe he can help? ;-)
he offers services to track down thieves (at least he should be capable to track down himself) ;-)

here his PM:
"hey mate , i saw you tread about the stolen btc ,
i work with some law enforcement agencies israelly and i have access to some tracking abilities that will make it very easy to track and catch your thief , even if he did it from a public wifi or something i can still track the physical address of his computer and match it with other networks , i will guarantee you that you will have your thief and i accept your offer of payment of 10 btc but i must insist on payment of half the ammount upfront to insure my work dont go for vain.
let me know if it suits you"

Moderator: could you please mark shylock as scammer?

[Jeffrey]

Thanks for your input. The list of people he scammed, or tried to scam, keeps growing and growing.
Obviously, he doesn't work with "law enforcement agencies"

I'd only like to know the date/time when he sent this PM.

[k99]

today dec. 2. 2013 02:10:29 PM

Thanks for your input. The list of people he scammed, or tried to scam, keeps growing and growing.
Obviously, he doesn't work with "law enforcement agencies"

I'd only like to know the date/time when he sent this PM.

[Jeffrey]

Okay, thanks, good to know he's still doing this shit.

[U1TRA_L0RD]

You know Bitcoin is officially a legit currency by the U.S. Supreme Court, so he can get sued, I hope you get that bastard OP.

[Tad3j]

I think the nature law is however hard on him. The stealing is not in accepted socially so he will get what he desirves. One wy or another.

I have however discovered another forum scammer. I think that there should be some approval before buying selling on this forum.

[Jeffrey]

I think the nature law is however hard on him. The stealing is not in accepted socially so he will get what he desirves. One wy or another.

I have however discovered another forum scammer. I think that there should be some approval before buying selling on this forum.

I think that doesn't happen. The forum clearly states they won't remove posts from scammers or such and they leave it up to everybody else to use their brains.
The only thing we can do is use the trust option which is clearly visible once it's negative.

[BitcoinFr34k]

I think the nature law is however hard on him. The stealing is not in accepted socially so he will get what he desirves. One wy or another.

I have however discovered another forum scammer. I think that there should be some approval before buying selling on this forum.

I think that doesn't happen. The forum clearly states they won't remove posts from scammers or such and they leave it up to everybody else to use their brains.
The only thing we can do is use the trust option which is clearly visible once it's negative.

Any news from his boss or the embassy? I

[b!z]

TSR at Dell and Vice President at S.C.C - SATAN COMPUTERS CORP.
Past: 013 Netvision
Went to streets of hell
1998 to present
Lives in Athens, Greece
From Haifa, Israel
Followed by 3 people

For some reason, I don't think this part is real

[Jeffrey]

BIG UPDATE

Just got a call from his boss. They checked his email and verified he used his work email to scam people.
Following this he got instantly FIRED.

If you're reading this; eat that bitch, but this was only step 1.

Now into suing him to get the actual money back. Fortunately, him being fired can actually work as proof against him, since his work has verified he used his work mail to scam people.

[BitcoinFr34k]

BIG UPDATE

Just got a call from his boss. They checked his email and verified he used his work email to scam people.
Following this he got instantly FIRED.

If you're reading this; eat that bitch, but this was only step 1.

Now into suing him to get the actual money back. Fortunately, him being fired can actually work as proof against him, since his work has verified he used his work mail to scam people.

This is very good news. Congratulations on this! I hope you get your money back soon (and I hope he has to sell his Alienware computer in order to pay you back ).

Keep us updated!

[Lauda]

BIG UPDATE

Just got a call from his boss. They checked his email and verified he used his work email to scam people.
Following this he got instantly FIRED.

If you're reading this; eat that bitch, but this was only step 1.

Now into suing him to get the actual money back. Fortunately, him being fired can actually work as proof against him, since his work has verified he used his work mail to scam people.

Who helped you contact the company? 
The address is below  .

Jk aside, good work. Tell the boss to notify the IT department so that they keep the emails.

[Jeffrey]

Well in all honesty, he did himself by sending mails to me from his Dell address.

But no worries, all names are written down of people who helped me, when I get my money back I'll share

[melviniii]

Dear Jeffrey,

I am also scammed by this person, I have sent him an ultimatium to either pay me back.. Or I will go after him. Could you contact me so we could coördinate our efforts? Great work on the employer part! karma is a b....

I have much written documentation, and I could verify/proof his identity from a prior identified bitcoin transaction. This guy is careless in scamming, funny thing is.. Even if it is concidered as a financial asset, good or immaterial asset.. He has broken the law.

Im also a Dutch native but I believe the forum would not appreciate a Dutch conversation here.

You can contact me on rotterdamfinance@gmail.com

Groeten / Kind regards,

Melviniii

[Moogle]

Awesome read! Fanatsic news on him getting fired too! Antone been able to check his Facebook and see if he's been crying about it? :-P
There any updates on this matter yet. Hope it works out well for you!

[Jeffrey]

Dear Jeffrey,

I am also scammed by this person, I have sent him an ultimatium to either pay me back.. Or I will go after him. Could you contact me so we could coördinate our efforts? Great work on the employer part! karma is a b....

I have much written documentation, and I could verify/proof his identity from a prior identified bitcoin transaction. This guy is careless in scamming, funny thing is.. Even if it is concidered as a financial asset, good or immaterial asset.. He has broken the law.

Im also a Dutch native but I believe the forum would not appreciate a Dutch conversation here.

You can contact me on rotterdamfinance@gmail.com

Groeten / Kind regards,

Melviniii

Hi Melvin,
I'll send you a mail and we'll take it from there.

[vandeam]

Guess no bounty after all.. 

[Jeffrey]

Guess no bounty after all.. 

No worries. Once I have it back I'll share

[Badonkadonk]

oh god i love the interwebz, this has made my year



gogo get the bastard

[BitcoinFr34k]

Any updates from OP?

[U1TRA_L0RD]

OP, have you gotten that scammer sack of sh*t yet??

[vandeam]

guess not 

[Badonkadonk]

reward enough would be seeing that turd getting whats coming to him

[Jeffrey]

Thanks all for showing more interrest.
As told before, the bitch got fired at his company.
I spoke to one of his direct colleagues before and after he got fired and he verified this.  (his boss who runs the department is from another country, luckily it is the same as I'm from, which helped a lot on communication)
There was however a downside to this which I didn't see coming. His colleague told he he was living in an appartment sort of owned by the company, so because he got fired, he had to leave. Of course this is even better, losing your job AND your house. However, nobody knows where he is. His colleague said he would go to Germany or back to Israel. Last thing he knew was that in the end he decided to go back to Israel. But yeah... finding him and sueing him will be even harder because at this point I have no new address and Israel is not in the EU which also makes things harder.
So I'm afraid everybody's money is just gone and we have to satisfy with the idea that he lost his job and his house (and many people in his life know the reason)

[gamybtc]

Thanks all for showing more interrest.
As told before, the bitch got fired at his company.
I spoke to one of his direct colleagues before and after he got fired and he verified this.  (his boss who runs the department is from another country, luckily it is the same as I'm from, which helped a lot on communication)
There was however a downside to this which I didn't see coming. His colleague told he he was living in an appartment sort of owned by the company, so because he got fired, he had to leave. Of course this is even better, losing your job AND your house. However, nobody knows where he is. His colleague said he would go to Germany or back to Israel. Last thing he knew was that in the end he decided to go back to Israel. But yeah... finding him and sueing him will be even harder because at this point I have no new address and Israel is not in the EU which also makes things harder.
So I'm afraid everybody's money is just gone and we have to satisfy with the idea that he lost his job and his house (and many people in his life know the reason)

Finally you are bit happy .

[vandeam]

welp.. 

[jjj0923]

I sent him a facebook friend request - perhaps I can embarass him with a post on his page.

[DeViL303]

I sent him a facebook friend request - perhaps I can embarass him with a post on his page.

worth a try, although this is a 6 month old thread now..


OP. good thread, good to bring scammers to light, shame you didnt get your money back though.

[shylok]

now that its an old thread let me saber your eyes guys :
I did get fired yes , for using work resources for personal need. what Jeffrey didn't share with you is I was looking for a way to leave the work anyway and by this I actually got my compensation too
also , my department manager isn't from your country he is a greek so no need to lie
and that colleague of mine that has been feeding you info? I was aware from day 1 he is ratting to you so I just kept feeding him false information and playing all along.

so thank you once again for the nice money , its really appreciate where I am now

[flippyfeet]

Good luck man.  Sucks that people scam, it's holding us (as a community) back.

[CrackedLogic]

Thanks all for showing more interrest.
As told before, the bitch got fired at his company.
I spoke to one of his direct colleagues before and after he got fired and he verified this.  (his boss who runs the department is from another country, luckily it is the same as I'm from, which helped a lot on communication)
There was however a downside to this which I didn't see coming. His colleague told he he was living in an appartment sort of owned by the company, so because he got fired, he had to leave. Of course this is even better, losing your job AND your house. However, nobody knows where he is. His colleague said he would go to Germany or back to Israel. Last thing he knew was that in the end he decided to go back to Israel. But yeah... finding him and sueing him will be even harder because at this point I have no new address and Israel is not in the EU which also makes things harder.
So I'm afraid everybody's money is just gone and we have to satisfy with the idea that he lost his job and his house (and many people in his life know the reason)

It actually sounds as if you're enjoying this.