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May 08, 2018, 11:42:36 AM
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Hello dear friends now the roster is:

1.TryNinja

2.ElenaBlanca

3.BTCforJoe



Who wants to help with mix test and leave your feed here ?
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May 08, 2018, 05:16:31 PM
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let's count together, not forgetting about the commission of 0.00015 for each transfer, as indicated on the payment page/
0.002/100 = 0.00002
0.002-0.001844 = 0.000156
0.000156 - 0.00015 = 0.000006
0.000006 / 0.00002 = 0.3%


The second time you made me laugh, when they announced the lowest commission.
I tested a few mixers and that's what I found.
You said that if you send 0.002 BCT on another mixer, you will get 0.001484. You probably had in view of privcoin.io, because it is they who get this amount.
But why do not you talk about other services?
On cryptomixer.io you will get 0.00149000.
on bestmixer.io by sending 0.002, you will get 0.00191538

I am sure that the fee for each address 0.00015 is very overstated.
At the moment in the network, the average fee for 1000 kb = 0.00030000 / 4 = 0.00007500
Those. you take twice as much as you need.
Therefore, 0.3% and the statement of the lowest commission on the fact of the game of words!
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May 08, 2018, 10:10:54 PM
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let's count together, not forgetting about the commission of 0.00015 for each transfer, as indicated on the payment page/
0.002/100 = 0.00002
0.002-0.001844 = 0.000156
0.000156 - 0.00015 = 0.000006
0.000006 / 0.00002 = 0.3%


The second time you made me laugh, when they announced the lowest commission.
I tested a few mixers and that's what I found.
You said that if you send 0.002 BCT on another mixer, you will get 0.001484. You probably had in view of privcoin.io, because it is they who get this amount.
But why do not you talk about other services?
On cryptomixer.io you will get 0.00149000.
on bestmixer.io by sending 0.002, you will get 0.00191538

I am sure that the fee for each address 0.00015 is very overstated.
At the moment in the network, the average fee for 1000 kb = 0.00030000 / 4 = 0.00007500
Those. you take twice as much as you need.
Therefore, 0.3% and the statement of the lowest commission on the fact of the game of words!


Dear friend, thank you very much for your feed . Yes you 100 % right, amounts less then 0.04 cheaper at bestmixer.io, but we also take 0.00015 for fast output of clean coins (30min-1hour) and confirmed coins with you. In bestmixer.io this fee are lower then 0.00015 , but there also you have to wait more time (2-3hours) confirming output funds. Mixing with us more advantageous starting from 0.04 btc for now, but we found a way how to be comfortable for all people and be most advantageous service on market despite on low or high amount you mix with us.Soon we will add 3rd slider for manual setting of output fee,it will be under delay slider. But for now mixing starting from 0.04 btc is the best price on market!

Dear friends! We also continue to collect people to help with testing our mixing technology. So who want to get free 0.002 btc please post here!
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May 08, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
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And yes this is the lowest fee on mixer markets. For example another mixer will send you only 0.001484.

ChipMixer will give you 0.002BTC exactly.

Yes you 100 % right, amounts less then 0.04 cheaper at bestmixer.io, but we also take 0.00015 for fast output of clean coins (30min-1hour) and confirmed coins with you. In bestmixer.io this fee are lower then 0.00015 , but there also you have to wait more time (2-3hours) confirming output funds. Mixing with us more advantageous starting from 0.04 btc for now, but we found a way how to be comfortable for all people and be most advantageous service on market despite on low or high amount you mix with us.Soon we will add 3rd slider for manual setting of output fee,it will be under delay slider. But for now mixing starting from 0.04 btc is the best price on market!

The mempool currently has 0.94 MB worth of transactions that pay a fee of 6 sat/byte, or greater. Assuming a 2 input, 2 output compressed address transaction, that's 374 bytes, meaning you'd need a fee of 0.00002244BTC to have a near 100% chance of getting into the next block (not 100% due to SPV pools). You can overpay the fee around 7 times, but you're not going to have a faster confirmation than bestmixer.


But for now mixing starting from 0.04 btc is the best price on market!

ChipMixer will give you 0.04BTC  Tongue


I'll help test though if you'd like.

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May 08, 2018, 11:01:51 PM
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Now the roster is:

1.TryNinja

2.ElenaBlanca

3.BTCforJoe

4.DarkStar_


Thank you DarkStar_ for your help! We will test chipmixer soon , but didn't got you , u send there 0.002 and get 0.002 ? Where is  their profit ? =) anyway we will check them!
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May 09, 2018, 12:16:59 AM
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Thank you DarkStar_ for your help! We will test chipmixer soon , but didn't got you , u send there 0.002 and get 0.002 ? Where is  their profit ? =) anyway we will check them!

They run on donations, as a "Pay what you want" service.

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May 09, 2018, 11:17:28 AM
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Ok then, im ready to test your mixer should i leave my btc address at this topic ?
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May 09, 2018, 01:30:31 PM
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Ok then, im ready to test your mixer should i leave my btc address at this topic ?

ChipMixer doesn't need testers anymore, as they're one of the most reputable mixers on the market at the moment. 9/10 of my tumbles are done using ChipMixer, simply because they've proven to be trustworthy, and you can't beat their fees Smiley

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May 09, 2018, 04:44:22 PM
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Ok then, im ready to test your mixer should i leave my btc address at this topic ?


Yes please leave your btc address here !
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May 09, 2018, 09:13:52 PM
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Dear friends we added new feature , now you can choose any output fee as you like,try it!  . Please leave here BTC wallets, who want to test it.
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May 09, 2018, 11:12:19 PM
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Dear friends we added new feature , now you can choose any output fee as you like,try it!  . Please leave here BTC wallets, who want to test it.

3NSvhvYYBMVh1bPyKWjPfyiF3RHAAgsgtw

What would happen if someone picked a fee that was too low, and the transaction doesn't confirm in a reasonable amount of time? Do you send RBF transactions, or are willing to double spend the transaction for them?

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May 10, 2018, 10:29:42 AM
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Here is my wallet 17x7QgGR77XWkfy22Zv5weAD6NRDK75Sfg
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May 10, 2018, 11:11:06 AM
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Dear friends we added new feature , now you can choose any output fee as you like,try it!  . Please leave here BTC wallets, who want to test it.
1NinjabXd5znM5zgTcmxDVzH4w3nbaY16L

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May 10, 2018, 04:37:12 PM
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BTC was sent to:
TryNinja
ElenaBlanca
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Waiting for your feedbacks  Smiley
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May 10, 2018, 05:02:07 PM
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Thanks. I received the coins and did a quick test.

I started the mixing proccess, sent the coins and received the amount indicated in the calculator after 1 confirmation (27 seconds to get included in the next block and a few seconds to get detected by the mixer, which immediately sent the coins).  There is not much to be said about the design of the website - which is very simple but functional -  TLDR: It was pretty quick.

A few suggestions:

1. Add a "Status" page where the user can input his mixing transaction id and see the details of his tx (the letter of guarantee, if the coins arrived, etc);
2. Also add the transaction id in the Letter of Guarantee.
3. Change the "Timeout" option name to something like "Delay". I'm pretty sure someone will be confused about what this option does. You could also add a quick explanation at the FAQ or put a hover button like you do with the "Client code";
4. Use Segwit addresses (less fees). This can also be used to increase privacy (i.e generate segwit addresses for 60% of the cases, and legacy for the remaining 40% - I guess this is possible, but I'm not sure).

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May 10, 2018, 08:00:47 PM
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Here's my address: 31xzEM3kxNCU1fq3nQxEXT75PcN1vK5a3v

I will test a transaction from and to a nested P2SH SegWit address using a delay and a low fee.

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May 10, 2018, 08:43:19 PM
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received coins from bitsafe.pro , then mixed with 0.3% fee , after 1st confirmation i received funds to clean address , will use this service , thank you for coins!
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May 10, 2018, 10:10:45 PM
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I mixed some coins from a different wallet of mine, instead of using the provided coins. I mixed around 0.007BTC, with a 1 hour delay and a low fee. Currently waiting for confirmations, will update when I receive my coins.



I liked how the page updated as the mixing process progressed, however I think you should add a message for when the transaction is sent, and include the txid. The page seems to stop at Total BTC received and confirmed: 0.007???. This amount will be forwarded shortly. I think it would be beneficial to add a message stating it's been forwarded.

Please clarify specifically on the transaction fee. Does a fee of 0.00001BTC mean that you'll pay 2sat/byte? (that's what my transaction was sent with anyway). The delay seems to be accurate, but it starts counting before the transaction confirmed (unless it's randomized). What happens if the transaction does not confirm before then? Other than that, it was a smooth and clear mixing process. Nice job.

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May 11, 2018, 11:34:07 PM
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Here's my address: 31xzEM3kxNCU1fq3nQxEXT75PcN1vK5a3v

I will test a transaction from and to a nested P2SH SegWit address using a delay and a low fee.

We sent money to you but , still didn't test , and no feedback, regarding your wallet funds was spent from there !
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May 11, 2018, 11:41:06 PM
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I mixed some coins from a different wallet of mine, instead of using the provided coins. I mixed around 0.007BTC, with a 1 hour delay and a low fee. Currently waiting for confirmations, will update when I receive my coins.



I liked how the page updated as the mixing process progressed, however I think you should add a message for when the transaction is sent, and include the txid. The page seems to stop at Total BTC received and confirmed: 0.007???. This amount will be forwarded shortly. I think it would be beneficial to add a message stating it's been forwarded.

Please clarify specifically on the transaction fee. Does a fee of 0.00001BTC mean that you'll pay 2sat/byte? (that's what my transaction was sent with anyway). The delay seems to be accurate, but it starts counting before the transaction confirmed (unless it's randomized). What happens if the transaction does not confirm before then? Other than that, it was a smooth and clear mixing process. Nice job.



Thank you very much friend for your feedback , you really help us to improve service, we will fix all this things !
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